Saturday, August 01, 2009

"Nithyananda Is Not Who He Claims To Be"

File under: Gurubusting and The Siddhi of PR

This turned up in the Guruphiliac forum the other day. It appears that another high-ranking member of the Nithyananda's inner circle has come down with a case of clear vision. All we can say is, "YIKES!"
Nithyananda is not who he claims to be

He has great videos on youtube. His talks can be mesmerizing and convincing. He does exude energy - I have felt it strongly. He is incredibly intelligent and knows how to say the right things to people. I had fallen for him quite strongly after feeling his energy throughout my body with just his touch on my forehead. I fell head over heels in love with him as much as someone could fall in love and devotion to a guru. I found myself doing everything he was espousing. I even legally changed my name, even my passport and driver's license, etc. I ran at every chance to see him, to be near him. I thought of him every minute of the day. I prayed to him and held him above all else.

But, there were too many little inconsistencies that I noticed. What he said in public and what he did in private were vastly different. He does brainwash people - if we have any doubt in our minds about him or his movement, we are told to "drop the doubt, drop the mind" lest we never reach enlightenment because of our "own fault" in not have "dropped our minds." He knows how to manipulate each person - he is master of the way people's psychology is, the way people think and believe, our psyche. He doesn't allow his ashramites to sleep - they get anywhere from no sleep to a few hours a day. He makes them work, work, work to the point of physical and mental exhaustion. He only believes in propagating his name, and acquiring money - not true religion. Religion is only a front just for outward appearance. He actually disrepects Gods in private sessions saying bad derogatory comments about them. I've seen him belittle and berate his ashramites shamelessly - it is emotional torture and humiliation. He claims it is "for their own good" to help them "lose their ego" so that they become enlightened but this is just a bogus double-speak in order to ill treat them as he wishes. He is a very sick, sick man who is egotistical, interested in fame and fortune, enjoys torturing people in a number of ways-mental, physical, emotional, and will stop at nothing to get what he wants. He doesn't mind stepping on people's toes, nay their heads, in order to get ahead. And everyone who is still in the movement are a bunch of stupid fools because they (most if not all) can see the signs but fail to acknowledge them and only believe his double-speak. They choose to stay in ignorance because they have fallen for his total crap words.

I urge those still in the movement to look past his words, and don't just believe what you see him do in public. He puts on a great humble and gracious act in public. See his actions in more private and intimate settings - this is a very dangerous man. Trust your gut instinct. Don't drop your mind - it's the only thing that is showing you the red flags to alert you to danger. Good luck to you and God Bless because now only the Real God can help you get out of this mess. I am thankful to the Real God for helping to show me the way out and save my life and my soul.
Often, bad gurus like this can work great as an impetus to come to trust your own truth apart from his/her flimflamming. That is a very big step in the life of the sincere seeker, if you asked us.

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At 8/02/2009 5:23 PM, Anonymous hippie said...

Nithyananda is a strange one. I had seen his abusive tyranny first hand as well as hearing it form others closer to him.

I was drawn to his public discourse - great speaker. I also entered into deep meditation easily sitting with him - this was very unusual for me.

Nithyananda has powerful siddhis or yogic attainment. However, I also realized he is a businessman running big ruthless business exploiting his followers deceiving the public.

May be he is a fallen yogi of some sort?

Give your mind a rest, but don't shut out your mind or you may end up drinking koolaid.

 
At 8/02/2009 9:58 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

I have attended his discourses. Yes, he speaks well and the frequent quips and jokes certainly make it a lot easier for lay people to accept and trust spiritual speakers.

I also (as @hippie say) entered some sort of deep meditative states with him -- again very unusual for me. Did not like all the name change, and residing in a community thing (which was essential at that time).

There was nothing I saw that was negative ( i was *not* one of the insiders), however his dressing himself up, lots of make up, inaccessibility .... did not inspire me to stick with him.

In recent times, hearing about him cutting down trees on the Arunachala Hill (protected area) was not good news. I am sad to hear it has reached this stage.

 
At 8/03/2009 4:36 AM, Anonymous Mutthu said...

Can someone tell about his latest antics called "kalpataru" ? A wish making session where he would appear dramatically from darkness on a swing in a stage and tells everyone they cam make a wish at that time and it become a reality etc? (kalpataru in sanskrit is wishfulling). No pictures videos allowed inside. So its a top secret. Unless someone who paid heavily and went to "wish" for something, who can throw some light here???

 
At 8/03/2009 5:00 AM, Anonymous quackers said...

another case of the "blind leading the blind"....

teachers like this are sure to fall and take his students with them....

the world is full of these at this moment....

 
At 8/03/2009 5:28 AM, Anonymous quackers said...

"Often, bad gurus like this can work great as an impetus to come to trust your own truth apart from his/her flimflamming. That is a very big step in the life of the sincere seeker, if you asked us."

what? if shock, disillusionment and trauma is the key to enlightenment, the whole would've reached it by now...

after all isnt the world called a sea of suffering in hinduism?

so if suffering was the key, everyone would've made it by now...

because by nature, noone is happy...

sorry that arguement is as bad as the abusive gurus who say "it was for your own good"...

if bad is good, where is the good?

 
At 8/03/2009 9:40 AM, Anonymous Mutthu said...

imbibe the marster's energy,,,lol

http://cities.sulekha.com/bay-area/events/Spiritual/2009/03/paramahamsa-nithyananda-kalpataru-darshan.htm

 
At 8/03/2009 3:56 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

Trust a real Guru who has dropped his Body: Ramana Maharishi, RamaKrishna, Shirdi Sai.
Read their Teachings, trust them, spend more time in their Tombs.
That seems the only Safe way these days to catch Divine Vibes.

 
At 8/04/2009 5:10 AM, Anonymous quackers said...

but what's to say, they werent just as perverted as the present lot, when they were alive?

 
At 8/04/2009 5:46 AM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

"Often, bad gurus like this can work great as an impetus to come to trust your own truth apart from his/her flimflamming. That is a very big step in the life of the sincere seeker, if you asked us."


I am the guy with the second comment, chiming in again.

I do (often grudgingly and reluctantly) agree with this. Nityananda was the last person I visited. Luckily, I can agree with the above, since I was not badly abused as some have been with other infamous gurus.

I no longer feel the need to go running around to find what is already here. I think folks like Sri Nisargadatta and Ramana put it well. Drop the struggle to be this or that and just be. I found what I was looking for right here.

 
At 8/05/2009 12:18 PM, Blogger Stuart said...

quackers said...
after all isnt the world called a sea of suffering in hinduism?

If you read some philosophical and religious writings from India, you'll find some places where the world is indeed called a sea of suffering. And other places where it's called the Supreme Truth, perfect and complete as it is.

So you've got opposite teachings. Depending on what you need or want, you can focus on one of these teachings from "Hinduism," and ignore the other. Many Christians have mastered a similar technique when it comes to the Bible.

(I'm not saying this is a bad thing; it's always necessary to choose which ideas or teachings are applicable to any particular situation. The choosing can be motivated by selfish desire, or by skillful compassion.)

Zen-style teaching is sometimes described as making something with the right hand, then taking it away with the left.

Stuart

 
At 8/06/2009 7:20 AM, Anonymous quackers said...

i was just making a statement on the comment that was made that a bad guru is good...

abuse is not good, even if it is wrapped in superstition.

 
At 8/07/2009 6:41 AM, Anonymous quackers said...

...and i kind of know that i put my foot in it aswell, by advising admin on how to write their own article!

but they still printed my comment, which was nice of them!

which goes to prove this site encourages free speech and thought,

thanx admin, and no offence meant.

 
At 8/09/2009 7:43 AM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

don't let your mind carry you away.
just sit quiet and think,if you really had met him,he would show you what is true

 
At 8/09/2009 9:59 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

Damb dude u changed ur name and all thats crazy, well at least u got out of his cult lol. There is probally to many people around him for you to give him a good old fashion ass whooping cause thats wat home boy needs peace

 
At 8/10/2009 11:43 AM, Anonymous quackers said...

" Anonymous said...
don't let your mind carry you away.
just sit quiet and think,if you really had met him,he would show you what is true"

the guy in the article is a high ranking devotee so he must have been living in an ashram or something and also then been in close proximity to the guru...

so i dont know what you mean when you say if he had "met" the guru,
presumably he already had.

 
At 8/10/2009 12:58 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

Anonymous said...
don't let your mind carry you away.
just sit quiet and think,if you really had met him,he would show you what is true

Oh gosh, this sounds like Satsang.

Obviously the World is full of people who really thought they had met "Him".

Whoever "him" is.

 
At 8/11/2009 5:51 AM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

So now they come out with a correspondence course in Meditation, to make us instructors, in 3 lessons:

FIMT
FORMAL MEMBERSHIP IN MEDITATION THERAPY



Designed and blessed personally by Enlightened Master
Paramahamsa Nithyananda


Offers an Opportunity to be eligible for becoming a
"Professional Meditation Instructor"


FIMT is a three month correspondence course with just 3 contact classes offered by Nithyananda Dhyanapeetam gives a wide opportunity to learn meditation science and how the Meditation works as Medication.

FIMT enables you to add therapeutical value to your life and health care.

fulfills your passion and support yourself financially.

you can have your own meditation center offering Life solutions.

 
At 8/11/2009 6:42 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

You guys need to see what FMIT is.
It is not 3 lessons. A long sequence of trainng is involved.
Dont just say things you dont know about.
first you nedd to be meditators before you coment on these things.
See you guys are making false coments and turning off genuine seekers. thats the problem.
Make objective realistic coments, and that too if you your self are commited to the work of dharma. some one who can come to the open and challenge the nithyananda should do this otherwise just dont do silly remarks. for the passing. Be serious.
If that is so easy, become a FIMT and then coment. if that was simplistic or idiotic. have the guts to experience before mocing at a spiritual organization.
What are your credentials to coment? are you any good with any scriptures, or have you helped anyopne.
Just passing loose coments and telling that you are doing service is the worst thing you can do to your self and to innocent others.

 
At 8/11/2009 6:48 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

You are moderating? Do you have guts to publish my coments? cme and challenge in open.. Are you a hindu?

 
At 8/11/2009 7:16 PM, Anonymous hippie said...

Anon wrote
".............
FIMT
FORMAL MEMBERSHIP IN MEDITATION THERAPY

Designed and blessed personally by Enlightened Master
Paramahamsa Nithyananda

Offers an Opportunity to be eligible for becoming a
"Professional Meditation Instructor"
.......................
Does anyone know how much this FIMT correspondence course cost?

 
At 8/12/2009 8:29 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

"What are your credentials to coment? are you any good with any scriptures, or have you helped anyopne.
Just passing loose coments and telling that you are doing service is the worst thing you can do to your self and to innocent others."
Boy I must have struck a cord with you, when I said he needs a ass whooping it was in humor but there must be some truth to it if your coming on here defending him. Second of all unless this is a medical site and someone is asking for advice I will not give credentials because thats not why Jody created this blog. Thirdly have you noticed that Nithyananda was once registered with Wikipedia and now the editors have removed his bio. The main reason is because the world is learning that he is doing nothing more then selling snake oil. Oh yeah and you can responding if you want but the person you should be mad at is Nithy fake o because he has taken you for a ride peace : )

 
At 8/12/2009 8:41 PM, Blogger Darin said...

Nithyananda is not who he claims to be lol no shit its to bad there are people giving this con artist their hard earned money.

 
At 8/12/2009 11:47 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

Thank you to writer and Jody for the courage to speak out. Nithy has too many fooled.

 
At 8/13/2009 6:37 PM, Blogger Darin said...

Thats exactly what I thought you dont have anything to say quit coming on here trying to defend him.

 
At 8/17/2009 9:40 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

WENT TO THE KALPATARU PROGRAM AS A GIFT FROM A FRIEND,THERE WAS NO SWING,WHAT NON SENSE. IT WAS A MEDITATION AND SPIRITUAL TALKS,WE WERE ABLE TO GO UP AT THE END AND REQUEST HIS BLESSINGS BUT MOST WHEN GOT THERE JUST FELT BLISS BEING WITH NITHYANANDA.THATS THE REAL STORY

 
At 8/18/2009 12:27 AM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

Anonymous said.....'THERE JUST FELT BLISS BEING WITH NITHYANANDA.THATS THE REAL STORY"

This BLISS (some kind of high) is what got many hooked. It was like a spell that despite seeing his exploitiveness and inconsistancies, it was hard for many to leave. I am glad that I am out and the close disciples who run the local satsang are also out.

 
At 8/18/2009 2:53 AM, Anonymous Rammohan said...

Nityananda's meditation is a straight lift off from Osho Rajneesh's meditation techniques. Rajneesh had done quite a lot of research on eastern traditions and western catharitic theraphies and he integrated them to create many innovative techniques. Nityananda has shamelessly lifted the techniques without even acknoledging the sources. Dynamic meditation of Osho becomes Dukkhaharana, nadabrahma meditation becomes mahamantra meditation and so on. If you want to go to the authentic source read osho.

 
At 8/18/2009 9:07 AM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

anon said "THATS THE REAL STORY"

in capital letters, no less.
no, that's your story!

 
At 8/18/2009 11:51 AM, Anonymous joker said...

Why do people get a high around this cunning egomaniac? What subtle powers he has? I am still puzzled by it all. It seems he can control some unseen energy or force around him.

Enlightened or otherwise, he could do much good. However, he choose deception and exploitation for money, power and fame.

It seems the devil has given him these powers to fool sincere spiritual aspirants. Sad.

 
At 8/18/2009 11:52 AM, Anonymous quackers said...

Anonymous said:
"in capital letters, no less.
no, that's your story!"

anon didnt but "quackers" did, oops soz!

 
At 8/18/2009 3:43 PM, Blogger Darin said...

Ok to the person who felt some kind of spirtual awakening or bliss ect ect upon meeting Nithy I got a question who is your favorite musician or actor or actress that you have not met or seen in person? Having dinner with the famous person of your choosing will create the same experince and set off the same brain chemicals that Nithy's face to face gave you peace : )

 
At 8/18/2009 10:58 PM, Anonymous hippie said...

Darin - I don't think a famous person has the same appeal. Attending a talk by some famous person or being in a room with a famous person isn't quite the same as attending a talk by Nithyananda.

I drove several hundred miles each day to attend his discourse over some weeks. I rented a room near his temple for the month he was giving his discourse. I traveled across the country and to India (from USA) for his programs.

It is like being with Jesus Christ ( if you are a Christian). Nithyananda has a special energy.

That doesn't mean that he isn't wicked. I have seen enough and I am glad that I am out.

 
At 8/19/2009 2:02 AM, Blogger Shanky said...

Hah...Funny thing..This is a century old story..A disciple with hurt ego trying to destroy the faith of others as well by planting seeds of negative thoughts which can do only harm..

Even the Guru of Paramahamsa Yogananda, Swami Yukteswara was acrid enough to make not only Yogananda but also also his father to cry!! Yogananda even left him him once only to return back..And just after his Guru gave him a glimpse of cosmic consciousness, he asked him to sweep the floor!! Mahavatar Babaji asked a person to jump from cliff to show his faith!! There is a Zen saying that even if an enlightened master kicks you he will be doing good to you in someway..

Nithyanada had himself said in a video - 'Do you think living around me is easy? Ask my disciples..Many of them leave because they find it too difficult..etc etc'

Nithyanada has no family so what use of money for him except for putting it back to society? For years he had purposefully renounced everything and roamed around in India as an unknown begger staying in deserted cemeteries, so what meaning is fame for him?

When everyone agrees that he is wise, his words do 'click', out of hundreds of teachers he has stood out at such a young age, he exudes energy and can take you to high meditative states then I would say he is definitely a Guru who can show you the path to God, but one just needs to completely surrender to him. Fault finding should be done in oneself and not on others..

Remember, Krishna had asked Arjun to kill his own relatives and even that he agreed...

 
At 8/19/2009 6:47 AM, Anonymous quackers said...

to joker above:

absolutely.

 
At 8/19/2009 11:10 AM, Blogger Darin said...

Shanky said
"but one just needs to completely surrender to him."
Dude are you insane surrender to some lunatic who actually puts most of the money into that freakin god for saken gold thrown he sits on. Second you sound like your crazy saying he set off some energy like Jesus Christ lol. Third you need to wake up its a CULT!

 
At 8/19/2009 2:22 PM, Anonymous joker said...

Shanky - why don't you surender to Hitler or Jim Jones?

Nithy keep insisting that one has to surrender, to whom one surrenders matters little so long as one surrenders.

He is setting up his followers for unthinking unquestioning obedience. Many spaced out under his spell slaving away making $$$$$ for him.

Go get some weed if you need to get high. Marijuana is safer than Nithy or Jim Jones.

 
At 8/20/2009 1:14 AM, Blogger Shanky said...

@ Darin & Joker -

Dudes, I never said complete surrender is easy and adding to that I would say that not every spiritual aspirant can do it (Myself included)..Its the path of Bhakti Yogi(devotion) and all over the world for centuries people have reached higher spiritual states by surrendering even to stones (idols or otherwise)..So just because we cant walk the path doesnt mean the path itself is wrong..

Just find another path more suitable to your nature..Jnana Yoga (Wisdom), Raja Yoga (Meditation), Karma Yoga(Work),etc..All lead to same goal and Nithyanada is adept in practising and teaching all..

And yes, even marijuana can induce higher levels of consciousness as mentioned by Patanjali in Yoga Sutras but instead of becoming the master of your 'self', your 'self' becomes the slave of marijuana...

On the gold issue, I can say that people have wrong impression that men of God should not be rich..From Krishna to Vivekanada, nobody were poor beggars..The only thing is not to get attached to wealth & fame and remain undisturbed even when they leave you..

 
At 8/20/2009 9:42 AM, Blogger jody radzik said...

From Krishna to Vivekanada, nobody were poor beggars

Vivekananda was not rich. He died in debt. The reason is because Vivekananda did not miracle monger, ever. He never performed miracles, didn't talk about miracles, didn't perform healings. He just spoke about his version of Vedanta. In this regard, Vivekananda is as far away from Nithyananda as Jesus Christ is from the Devil.

Nithyananda's whole business plan is based on miracle mongering. It is vile, disgusting and disruptive of the truth, and it makes him as great a sinner as any guru in the world today.

 
At 8/20/2009 12:21 PM, Anonymous Ronspeed said...

I stumbled onto this blog by mistake. Its the first time im hearing something negative about nithyananda.

Home boy... ass whooping..?????
Wtf??

How would you like it if someone went around publicly abusing your mother, father, friend or sibling, moreover anonymously, not having the balls to say ur name poublicly.

You guys are afraid to accept the truth, Nithyananda is a great soul. We go to him with all our faults and ask for his help to reach illumination and bliss which he readily gives us. the least we can do is forgive for a few qualities which a leader of an organization must have to maintain order. It is easy to hypothisize and talk about spirituality but to actually practise is a whole new ball game. Take a look at urself before you judge an enlightened soul. Remember there is nothing absoulte in the universe. Ying and Yang. whatever you call it. The power lies in us to believe. Just remember that for every one of you guys against nithyananda there are a 1000 of us who believe. So dont blame him. The problem lies within you.



@Rammohan

The meditations taught by swami are ancient Vedic and Zen meditations which have been also taught by Osho.

I know u guys are free to voice your opinions but please leave out the foul. Its not that hard.

@shanky - ur dam right about marijuana.

 
At 8/20/2009 12:32 PM, Blogger jody radzik said...

Nithyananda is a great soul.

Ramakrishna once had a vision of a prostitute covered in human excrement. He likened the excrement to siddhis. Nithyananda is covered in that same excrement. He is a truth-killing conman with his vile, miracle-mongering snake oil sales.

 
At 8/20/2009 12:39 PM, Anonymous Ronspeed said...

Talking about surrender.. whats the bug deal.. What have u to loose. Wat u think he s gonna brain wash you.. Well thats wat happens but not thee way i just put it or u guys make it out to seem..its a lot of fun..

Hell.you say.. dont come here and stick up for him..??? why not..??? ..

Im not gonna go into details, but you guys should study his teachings a little more and maybe u will understand better wht it is he is really "up to"...U guys have a mentioned a lot of information in this blog which is a whole lot of bullshit..

peace out brothers... just my point of view...

 
At 8/20/2009 1:00 PM, Anonymous ronspeed said...

Jody i think u need some marijuana or something of the sort to get rid of your facination with visions. Ramkrishna had no such vision. U talk people being led astray with useless knowledge..???
bliss is out there you know.. u just have to look. Nithyananda gives us this bliss easily.

Jody - are u aware of the healing capabilities of Nithyananda or do u believe that this is one of his aleged cons..

 
At 8/20/2009 2:57 PM, Blogger jody radzik said...

Ramkrishna had no such vision.

It's in the Ramakrishna Kathamrita:

"People of small intellect seek occult powers—powers to cure disease, win a lawsuit, walk on water, and such things. But the genuine devotees of God don't want anything except His Lotus Feet. One day Hriday said to me, 'Uncle, please ask the Mother for some powers, some occult powers.' I have the nature of a child. While I was practising japa in the Kali temple, I said to Kali, 'Mother, Hriday asked me to pray to You for some occult powers.'

The Divine Mother at once showed me a vision. A middle-aged prostitute, about forty years old, appeared and sat with her back to me. She had large hips and wore a black-bordered sari. Soon she was covered with filth. The Mother showed me that occult powers are as abominable as the filth of that prostitute. Thereupon I went to Hriday and scolded him, saying: 'why did you teach me such a prayer? It is because of you that I had such an experience.'"

This is a DIRECT and SCATHING indictment of Nithyananda. He is shitting on the memory of Ramakrishna and Vivekananda with his miracle mongering.

 
At 8/20/2009 3:21 PM, Anonymous hippie said...

Shanky, surrender is easy if you take out your brain (or let go of your mind!!).

Surrendering to a stone is harmless compare to surrendering to Jim Jones or Nithy. Stone will not make you a slave or tell you to drink Koolaid!

Nithy's talks was a mix of Vedic wisdom mixed with his own cunning deception. The good parts are incredible. However, one never know which portion is what he use to mislead followers into obedient slavery.

Surrender to Nithy means becoming an obedient slave. Giving up all, working long hours with little sleep, expecting nothing in return.

If a slave expect some attention or special spiritual guidance (not relating to how to be a better slave), the slave is accused of "DOING BUSINESS WITH THE MASTER".

Doing business with the MASTER is not being a perfect SLAVE, preventing ENLIGHTENMENT. A slave with true DEVOTION to the MASTER would work day and night, die and kill for the MASTER, never expect anything in return.

No wonder Nithy is not content to be a GURU or SATGURU. He wants to be a MASTER, so his true followers (ashramites) are his SLAVES, not disciples.

ANANDA SEVAKS are full-time slaves working their way to become house slaves or ashramites. They first have to prove their true devotion before given housing - even though they work day and night for Nithy.

If surrender leads to holiness and salvation - go drink some Koolaid.

Please go read the Guru Papers by Joel Kramer & Diana Alstad. I hope it will hope you understand.

 
At 8/20/2009 9:24 PM, Anonymous ronspeed said...

i have been associated with the ashram for over 4 years now, one way or the other, and have heard many stories about nithyananda's capabillities in the meta-physical realm. Note: Nithyananda has never spoken of his capabilities through his own words, but have been made public by his diciples not him.. so dont blame the man so much.. he knows what is going on very clearly. Have you ever cared to enquire where all the money collected goes..?? I have.. maybe you should check up this stuff before u compare the man to these visions.. Neways miracle mongering.. occult powers... come on.. no such thing goes on in the ashram.. yes healing, fun, work, spreading the mission...i agree people are over worked.. but we all have a choice.. who cares what another diciple says... business with the master is my business and mine only.. yea... business... hell he doesnt care what u call it.. diciples do... so dont target nithyananda directly..

 
At 8/20/2009 10:17 PM, Anonymous ronspeed said...

Coolaid....:)

Is nt the simplicity of the whole situation facinating..Hahaha..


I have a tendency toward schizophernia accordiing to psy docs.. i say scerw that.. lets drink some coolaid...

Kalpataru is jus basically a darshan with the master..

Have any of u read the book called the secret... basically getting what u want using ur intentions and faith in the universe..

kalpataru is bascically the same thing.. u ask for wat u want in the presence of a being with a consiousness much higher than we can imagine... thus the chances of it coming true are all the more possible than if we wished the same thing on our own.. frequencies matter.. in the presence of an enlightened being your frequency also rises.. so intentions and wishes can come true... Miracle mongering..??? scientific process more like...

 
At 8/21/2009 12:22 AM, Blogger Shanky said...

Enough talking from my side..Now I have decided to have some first hand knowledge myself before posting any more comments..I will go to Bangalore this weekend to meet Nithyanada for the first time at his Kalpataru Darshan program..My further opinions on this topic will depend on personal experience and not on mere intellectual/emotional speculation..

 
At 8/21/2009 12:35 AM, Blogger jody radzik said...

My further opinions on this topic will depend on personal experience and not on mere intellectual/emotional speculation.

Nice way to set up some "authority" for yourself. Too bad it won't make a shred of difference. Nithyananda allows miracle-mongering to occur in his ranks. That makes him responsible, 100%. If he taught them properly, he'd make them understand they are trafficking in delusion. But that wouldn't attract devotees like the idea of miraculous happenings. Inevitably, someone claims a special experience or healing, and everyone gives Nithyananda credit, when really it was the faith and karma of the devotee, not any power Nithyananda wants you to believe he has.

And bottom line, Ramakrishna's vision of the prostitute speaks directly to Nithyananda's mission. He is no closer to a Vivekananda than Madonna, the pop star.

 
At 8/21/2009 1:35 AM, Anonymous Space Cowboy said...

jody: You make some sweeping statements. Nithyananda has publicly acknowledged - not just one or two occasions, but every time someone brings up healings, visions etc attributed to him - that without exceptions, it is your faith which gave you the experience. He has also explicitly acknowledged the placebo effect as very powerful and the reason for healings happening. Seriously, there is very little focus on the miraculous, gold throne and all notwithstanding, contrary to your skewed reporting.

Oh, he has narrated the RK shit covered hooker story too. Why so serious?

Don't be so bigoted, man. If you must quote RK and hold him to a high ethical standard, then follow his words to the letter, including acceptance and tolerance of all faiths.

For me the yardstick of a man's greatness is what kind of impact is produced and what kind of change in consciousness is produced on a massive scale (and I'm not even speaking only in "spiritual" terms here). Steve Jobs is hated by many, and by most inside accounts painted to be a tyrannical, self-absorbed, egotistical leader. Yet, he gets the job done, and his vision has changed the way many people live their lives. You're a Mac user, aren't you? At the end of the day, what matters more to you? That Jobs is a dictator and sells hype and creates a reality distortion field, or that you, along with millions of others, own a product which makes life easier?

 
At 8/21/2009 5:55 AM, Anonymous quackers said...

Fault finding should be done in oneself and not on others..

Remember, Krishna had asked Arjun to kill his own relatives and even that he agreed...

then why isnt the guru fault finding in himself?

yes krishna asked arjun to kill his own relatives because those relatives were against arjun who was righteous...

it wasnt mindless violence against children or women by raping or abusing them, like some of these gurus do...

it wasnt war against the innocent, it was war against the guilty...

thats why it was called dharma yudha, the very first sentence in the mahabharta...

 
At 8/21/2009 5:29 PM, Anonymous hippie said...

Shanky, please go to Bangalore and have some fun. I couldn't wait to hear your story.

 
At 8/21/2009 8:21 PM, Blogger Darin said...

"Damb dude u changed ur name and all thats crazy, well at least u got out of his cult lol. There is probally to many people around him for you to give him a good old fashion ass whooping cause thats wat home boy needs peace"
Yeah so what if I said it you have to understand that this is the way I chose to express my anger towards Nithy. I feel he is robbing people of hard earned money. Also if you read the comments before mine the comment you dislike was of approval that I dislike Nithy also not some planned out attack on him, the only attack I would give him if I met him would be of words which would consist of telling him that he is not special and he needs to quit taking poor peoples money and offer the damb discourses and yoga classes for free. So again I wrote that comment to assure the person who was dooked out of money ect ect that I felt what Nithy did was not right, I did not choose the words "ass whooping" to incite some kind of chain reaction and physical violence towards him. Again my comment was written to assure the person that got dooked out of money that I also feel the same way and made a joke out of it with the ass whooping comment. With that being said I still feel the way I do about him yet he has done no harm to me besides putting me out about hundred buck for a couple books and a mala ect. So dont get it twisted and make me out to be some kind of hate monger read the full context of the comment and the previous ones peace :)

 
At 8/21/2009 9:08 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

I attended Kalpataru. I was impressed; it was not only powerful, but Nithyananda emphasized that he's teaching to offer one thing: enlightenment. What's enlightenment? Understanding and experiencing how consciousness works - the consciousness we each and all are. I've found that listening to derogatory comments about someone (see: President Obama) does not necessarily offer an accurate picture. Check out Nithyananda for yourself on YouTube; it's free - and I have yet to hear him teach anything inaccurate or inauthentic.

 
At 8/21/2009 9:15 PM, Blogger jody radzik said...

I have yet to hear him teach anything inaccurate or inauthentic.

This advertisement brought to you by Nithyananda-flavored Kool-Aid brand psych-ops and cult indoctrination.

 
At 8/21/2009 10:02 PM, Anonymous ronspeed said...

jody.. u didnt post a couple of my comments earlier.. sorry i got personal with you but u have a very harsh way of talking of the man..

anyways.. the money issue..
whos going to pay for all the charity that the organization offers.. the free medical camps.. education in villages.. free schooling in rural areas.. roads and electricity to places never heard of before..
the mission is growning.. growth needs funds... also not all programs are that expensive.. expensive programs specifically carry the tag 'fund raiser' with it... a novel these days lets say ' the godfather' by puzo costs over 250 rupees, nithyanandas latest hit costs litlle over 200 rupees.. its not that bad..
The money is not going into anyones pockets.. its for development and growth.. also i give nithyananda another year in his current position... in a couple of yrs theres not going to be any more kalpatarus, darshans and the ashram is not going to be as laid back as it is now.. the demand is growing, theres less supply... swami jokingly says he s done a research in the spiritual market and the trend is showning growth.. hence the need for development of better infrastructure.. 2 years and no more being able to be as close as 20 feet from swami... he s a young guy.. he has to keep up with the times..2 years ago.. the ashram was so quiet.. today its bustling with activity.. the people want more of him.. he has helped lakhs of people like me, and lakhs more need his help.. so i say, go spend some time in his ashram before its too late..

 
At 8/21/2009 10:05 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

Jody, your objectivity is stunning. :o) Okay, I'll bite .... what, exactly (pick from any YouTube video of Nithyananda's) is inaccurate or inauthentic? Or, or you simply saying that I'm drinking Kool-Aid, because I say something positive about Nithyananda? Is "inherently dismissive" or "inherently derogatory" in the same Kool-Aid flavor pack as "Guru fawning"? <- As in: different flavors don't mean it's not Kool-Aid. Seriously, now: I have a certain amount of respect for things you've said .. but your response to my previous post sounds like "Nyah Nyah Nyah". Haven't you expounded "reality is what is"? What *is* bad about Nithyananda? Couldn't all the negative stories about him be projections and whining? Were you frightened by someone in orange robes as a child? Inquiring minds, etc. etc. ......

 
At 8/21/2009 10:11 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

And, by the way (same anonymous poster here; I'd register or whatever, but y'all are a bit too negative for me) ... I actually don't have any official affiliation w/Nithyananda in any way. I just truly see him as a straightforward teacher, with a strong energy vibe. Try evaluating the content objectively (just a suggestion), as opposed to the complainings of the disgruntled (when has that ever offered an accurate view - of anyone - anywhere?) Also: suggested guru criteria: if it helps *you* experience consciousness more fully/accurately/actually - it's good (teaching, guru) - if not, it's bad. "The best guru is the one that wakes YOU up." ... Yes, you may quote me: "Anonymous".

 
At 8/22/2009 1:32 AM, Blogger jody radzik said...

Jody, your objectivity is stunning

You're right. I was being lazy.

what, exactly (pick from any YouTube video of Nithyananda's) is inaccurate or inauthentic?

So I went and checked out this video: "Living Enlightenment - 1st Samadhi Experience of Nithyananda," and right away I was turned off. Nithyananda is glorifying his own experience. Maybe that's what folks want, but it's not what folks need, in my opinion. What they need is the simple truth that they have everything they seek, with them at all times. Nithyananda may be saying that, but his actions—glorifying his personal spiritual experiences in front of others—while a part of the Hindu tradition, is only creating occluding ideas in the heads of his students, helping to foster a cult-like atmosphere, mostly due to the fact he has you all thinking he's an avatar.

 
At 8/22/2009 6:18 AM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

Fair enough (I'm not a big fan of that video, either). Try the Fullfillment video (from June 2009). Like anything else, you can dislike it in thirty seconds if you really want to; give it three-four minutes - you may see something different. Or not. I see Nithyananda as a good bridge between "old-style" Hindu gurus and new-style, more non-duality oriented teachers who do have credibility with most people (example: Adyashanti). As 6:15 in the video above, Nithyananda is telling a questioner that looking for fulfillment outside of herself, including in a guru, including in him, is ridiculous. Music to my ears, anyway. Where some of you see a charlatan, I see a clear teacher, operating from a high level of consciousness.

 
At 8/22/2009 7:42 AM, Anonymous quackers said...

anon said "The best guru is the one that wakes YOU up." ...

but who will wake the guru up?

Space Cowboy said...
jody: You make some sweeping statements.

actually he has made comments that are anything but sweeping...

 
At 8/22/2009 2:45 PM, Anonymous hippie said...

Darin said...

"Damb dude u changed ur name and all thats crazy, well at least u got out of his cult lol. There is probally to many people around him for you to give him a good old fashion ass whooping cause thats wat home boy needs peace"

Please do no call an ex-disiciple with the courage to speak out "Damb dude". The person got out and is doing a service warning the world against Nithy.

It is not only money that Nithy has taken, he sabotages the aspirations of sincere seekers. For that you can do what you like to the "home boy".

By the way, Nithy does have some good videos. He also preach slavish devotion and miracles - mixed in for marketing of his cult empire.

Instead of encouraging students to think for themselves, his goal is to turn spiritual seekers and meditation students into his obedient slave followers, working day and night for his cut-throat business empire.

 
At 8/22/2009 4:42 PM, Anonymous hippie said...

I am watching the Fulfillment video an anon posted. Great Video.

It was partly his videos that got me into his movement. It took a year before I realized what he says in public and he does are very different.

I may still go to his talks if it is not too far away.

Watch all he his video you want. However, if you do get into his movement, please do not let go of your rational mind. Your mind is your god-given defense against deception.

 
At 8/22/2009 4:55 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

Hippie who made you the moderator? I am going to type what I like and if Jody doent like it he is the one who will decide to censor it not you ok.

 
At 8/22/2009 7:59 PM, Anonymous Swami Great Googly Mooglyananda said...

To the Anonymous who suggested the Fulfillment video:

I suspect jody's beef is with *all* Gurus teaching from a position of authority. For jody, awakened teaching must be ordinary, democratic, and stripped of all "superstitious" Hindu cultural artifact.

 
At 8/22/2009 8:52 PM, Blogger Darin said...

Hippie also I am not going to take back what I said yet I do feel that Nithy seems to be at least through his videos on you tube a non violent person therfore my previous post that he needed an ass whooping was not something I wish upon him just what I was feeling at the time after reading previous post which as we all know are just words which may have some truth or non at all. Who knows.

 
At 8/23/2009 10:58 PM, Anonymous hippie said...

Darin, please don't be so sure of his non-violence, not until you talk to his brahmachari ashramites in India.

Nithy does have great videos. Please read the Original Post and you will have a better idea of the videos and the reality.

By the way, I still watch his videos occasionally. However, am more skeptical now on many things he says. I do not longer believe Nithy can grant enlightenment or has the number of enlightened disciples he claims to have.

 
At 8/23/2009 11:05 PM, Blogger jody radzik said...

I suspect jody's beef is with *all* Gurus teaching from a position of authority. For jody, awakened teaching must be ordinary, democratic, and stripped of all "superstitious" Hindu cultural artifact.

IMO, awakened teaching does not resort to an amplification of folk theory as a marketing strategy, abusing myth as a public relations ploy. Awakened teaching provides a natural example of enlightenment rather than a primped and preened pretty boy whose followers fall on their faces in misplaced adulation, and whose satsang has every appearance of being a stellar example of everything that is wrong with the state of big-time gurudom today.

 
At 8/24/2009 12:05 AM, Blogger jody radzik said...

Consider this: the light of the Atman shines in all at all times in plain sight. But most seem to miss seeing it. When one does see it, it isn't any different because of it. It's still something that has been with us the whole time.

So why would someone present themselves as special because of their enlightenment? It's counterproductive, making enlightenment seem out of reach for most, the purview of specially-blessed beings destined for the job by God. But it can really sell to the cheap seats.

 
At 8/24/2009 4:07 AM, Anonymous quackers said...

" Swami Great Googly Mooglyananda said...
To the Anonymous who suggested the Fulfillment video:

I suspect jody's beef is with *all* Gurus teaching from a position of authority. For jody, awakened teaching must be ordinary, democratic, and stripped of all "superstitious" Hindu cultural artifact."

not really,no beef at all, but if they abuse that trust, authority and respect,then they deserve the crap they get!

 
At 9/02/2009 2:33 AM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

I came upon this while searching for validity of Nithyananda's claims. However, one thing we have to keep in mind is there are several mentally messed up devotees who have terrible emotional needs who may end up bad-mouthing the gurus if they do not get the attention they crave for. Osho was also a victim of such disciples. So, we cannot easily dismiss certain genuine teachers, and moreover, if you are overly sensitive, then you shouldn't walk the razor path of self-realization..it is not for the faint hearted to whine about little things. The true gurus are like fire that will burn your ego in any which way, so be ready for it. But i'm still unsure of Nithyananda..will have to meet personally.

 
At 9/03/2009 8:48 AM, Blogger CHUCK said...

What you have just said is like a mouth full of poop! Havin swallowed it down yoreself, your bound to spew it back out for others to eat!

 
At 9/04/2009 4:33 AM, Anonymous quackers said...

anon above said "if you are overly sensitive, then you shouldn't walk the razor path of self-realization"

and quite clearly neither should the guru, they seem to fall off the path more times then their own disciples...

you've been reading too many scriptures my friend, get your head out of them and in to reality.

true gurus donot need to burn anyones ego, in their presence your ego should vanish...

where does it say true gurus burn their devotees ego in anyway they can? in scriptures? scriptures are incomplete anyway...
so why follow an incomplete teaching?

 
At 9/04/2009 6:50 AM, Anonymous ronspeed said...

being able to digest the truth is not easy..
so you guys who dont believe in the authenticity of masters like nithyananda and osho or even sai baba should keep your harsh opinions to yourself and let others get on with their seeking..
u guys are like a freaking infection, a cancer which is spreading nonsense for reasons which are entirely personal, so you can console your own hurt egos..
I completely agree with annonomous, just above.

Also spiritualty and the relationship with the master is a personal journey for every individual, not to be discussed in such forums.. its just wasting time, playing games of logic, without experience.

This blog is usless and it spreads a useless message that people dont want to hear, for those who still do - Enjoy!!

One rotten apple is all it takes..
the creator of this blog is that apple.. so people.. be carefull before you digest the lump of lard that this blog really is.. there is no point in trying to explain...

this is the last comment i am going to be leaving in this blog..

Nithyanandam

 
At 9/04/2009 9:05 AM, Anonymous quackers said...

to anon 9/02/2009 2:33 AM

ooh i forgot to add the following:

what a bunch of self righteous crap you spew!

 
At 9/04/2009 3:53 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

Heard a CD of nithy and he is truly going in the way of saibaba(puttaparthi) people singing songs glorifying him (You don't hear this typically in SSRS camp); One of the questions where he ask a question and answer himself people ask me whether I came to prove God(of himself) and he answers that I came to prove you as God!

 
At 9/08/2009 10:41 PM, Blogger Darin said...

"in the authenticity of masters like nithyananda and osho or even sai baba should keep your harsh opinions to yourself"
I dont know wat country you live in! But there are two sides to every story, maybe nithy and the likes make sense to some, yet I find their brand of commercial financial spirituality hideous. Peace in the Middle East :)

 
At 9/10/2009 4:45 PM, Blogger Vivek said...

He never performed miracles, didn't talk about miracles

Talk Facts!
"but if by any science, any investigation, we are helped to get hold of these finer forces which are the cause of the expression, the expression itself will be under control...then it would be possible for us to control the whole. When Jesus healed, they called it a miracle... 'Applied Raja Yoga' says the Yogi." - Swami Vivekananda

"When he is fixed in non-receiving, he gets the memory of past life" - Swami Vivekananda in Raja Yoga.

"Just as by the conquest of elements comes glorified body, so from the conquest of the organs will come the above-mentioned powers" - Swami Vivekananda

He has also shown the power of memory that he had by asking one of his disciples to pick a random book from the whole library and question him and answered him with the exact same words as in the book.

 
At 9/10/2009 5:06 PM, Blogger jody radzik said...

"then it would be possible for us to control the whole. When Jesus healed, they called it a miracle"

Vivekananda was under the same delusion about siddhis that Patanjali was.

"When he is fixed in non-receiving, he gets the memory of past life" - Swami Vivekananda in Raja Yoga.

Again, sharing the delusion of Patanjali and Hinduism in general about siddhis.

"Just as by the conquest of elements comes glorified body, so from the conquest of the organs will come the above-mentioned powers" - Swami Vivekananda

Once again, Swamiji proves himself beholden to the myths of Hinduism.

He has also shown the power of memory that he had by asking one of his disciples to pick a random book from the whole library and question him and answered him with the exact same words as in the book.

A good memory is no miracle.

You have proven me wrong insofar my contention that Vivekananda never spoke of miracles. But if we place what he said in his lifetime next to Nithyananda's miracle-mongering, it's like seeing Annapurna next to an anthill. Vivekananda didn't use the idea that he could perform miracles as a way to make himself more popular, unlike the great sinner Nithyananda.

 
At 9/10/2009 5:32 PM, Blogger Vivek said...

Vivekananda was under the same delusion about siddhis that Patanjali was.
LOL. You are again and again contradicting yourself.

myths of Hinduism
Your total confusion on Hinduism noted.

Nithyananda's miracle-mongering
Again, you not talking facts!

 
At 9/10/2009 5:41 PM, Blogger Vivek said...

He wants to be a MASTER, so his true followers (ashramites) are his SLAVES, not disciples.

ANANDA SEVAKS are full-time slaves working their way to become house slaves or ashramites


You are talking baseless comments. I myself was a Sevak and now an ashramite.

You are the one hiding behind your 'hippie' avatar.

 
At 9/11/2009 1:44 AM, Anonymous Who? said...

Vivekananda was under the same delusion about siddhis that Patanjali was.

I don't know if you make opinionated statements like this to get a rise out of the Hindu crowd, or what, but if Patanjali was deluded, then so was Ramakrishna, to speak of siddhis. And if they were all deluded, then why even bother ranting, if siddhis do not exist at all? hmm?

Now, if siddhis are no more than an imaginary creation of a deluded culture, then their other creation "Brahman" is equally imaginary, and your own conviction about this "Brahman" is delusional woo-woo too.

Come on, prove to me, Jody, using your sophisticated neuroscience, that this imaginary idea "Brahman" has any tangible reality. Otherwise, I'd be inclined to think that Shankara, you, and all your non-dual cronies are just a big ole ship of fools sailing the seas of seven cheese...

 
At 9/11/2009 11:33 AM, Blogger CHUCK said...

Vivek, who is this here "hippie avatar"? I aint smoke no dope since 19 and 72! Maybe he could hook me up!

 
At 9/14/2009 1:17 AM, Anonymous Who? said...

Censorship is alive, I see. Looks like you can only dish it out, jody, but can't take it. And I didn't even label you a "great sinner"...

 
At 9/19/2009 9:02 PM, Anonymous hippie said...

Sorry, hippie has no dope. Nothing to smoke. Nothing to replace the Nithy delusional high that once was.

If not for the disbanding of the local satsangha, I might had doubt my own perception. Fortunately, the departure of Nithy's intimate followers from the movement help confirmed my perception that Nithy was not what he claims to be.

 
At 10/11/2009 6:57 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

Nithyananda doesn't claim to be anything! Many of the comments are incorrect from the very first post! Who does Nithyananda Claim to be?
Your own lack of understanding and your oversized ego has created what YOU claim Nithyananda to be.
It is your judgment, pride, ego and lack of intelligence that has created what you THINK Nithyananda is!
People who post these negative rants about guru's are the ones who need help! I think we'd all be happy with Nithyananda if he was an old quiet poor guru who never said a word other than 'peace & love' -- then our ego's could be satisfied as we could still speak our logic and flaunt our money and thus feel bigger and better than him. Perhaps Nithyananda charges money for his programs and sits in a throne but he's worked for it and he's an intelligent business man ... are you jealous of his accomplishments? Do you think all teachers should be poor? AND really what do you know of him? It's easy to sit and judge - it's easy to criticize - it's easy to be skeptical --- it's not so easy to drop your ego (You've clearly proven that) --- it's NOT so easy to transform -- instead of tearing apart a man who is changing the lives of millions in an incredibly positive and compassionate way -- look at yourself -- what can you do to change? Perhaps Nithyananda isn't for you AND that's okay - but stop with the garbage - the judgment and all out insecurities and let him do the amazing work he has been doing! He has changed the lives of MANY for the good - I have seen it and experienced it - and I am far from brain washed! I am on the inside and yes we do work hard but it's by choice - we also rest when we need rest and we laugh and have fun -- this life is TRULY a choice. If you have troubles with him look at yourself - what is it in you that causes so much judgment? I am not saying you need Nithyananda but perhaps you need to look in a little bit and work on yourself - let others decide what they want to do and whether or not a guru works for them. I have been with Nithyananda for 4 years and have grown so much in the last 2.5 from the volunteer work that I have CHOSEN to do! I have not been abused, I have not surrendered, I have not been hurt or brainwashed - I just AM - Instead I have a clarity that I have NEVER felt before - and knowledge and wit that I never knew existed - confidence beyond normal - flexibility to such a point that nothing really bothers me and if it does I can take care of the situation easily and compassionately without holding onto the emotional baggage --- can you say the same -- why harbour the anger/judgment that you feel for Nithyananda -- let it go - approach the world and yourself with compassion - like I said -- look inside. Leave Nithyananda alone - he is obviously making an incredibly compassionate effort to change the world and the more and more fame he gets the more people like you there will be to try to bring him down -- just remember ... it's not him it's your own ego ... work on it first before you start these crazy rants. This is all I have to say!

 
At 10/12/2009 10:26 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

I have recently attended the Kalpaturu program and I met Nithyananda directly. There is something special about him. Everyone was allowed 1 wish when they met him. I asked him to heal a pain I had. He blessed my forehead and placed his hand on the point of my pain. Since my meeting with him, I have not had the pain.

 
At 10/20/2009 3:19 AM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

i stayed in his ashram when he started gurukul for children for about 3 months in 2006....i was young that time-14 years old..The experience there for the first two months was incredible,however the following month when the temple was being build near the banyan tree,we(some of the gurukul students)realised something was wrong somewhere...We were required to work..imagine 7-year-olds and 8-year-olds doing heavy jobs like carrying huge rocks and stuffs like that...i've seen some bramacharis working day and night for swamy...they were tired but still had to work...every morning they were supposed to be present in the ananda sabha to do surya namaskar...i used think that they are being used but i was afraid to express my opinion...My parents brought me and my brother to M'sia after that because we find we are not suitable to stay there...i dont know the purpose swamy was treating the ashramites like that..and i'm still wondering..i live my life with simple principles...i believe in celebrating life every moment but in my opinion one really cant celebrate his life in that ashram...it feels as if you are exhausting yourself physically and mentally for swamy...i feel like suppressing myself and it feels awful...Freedom is the best gift one can get and you lose the freedom when you are in the ashram...

 
At 10/26/2009 9:30 AM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

How very very sad and confusing to the earnest seeker. Listening to this mixture of positive inputs and this ORGY of judgment and condemnation, infested by the pervasions of self righteousness, how does one know who to believe and who to follow? I am reminded of the great Kalama Sutra of the Buddha. Please read it if you want the clarity in your search. It goes like that:

"The Kalamas who were inhabitants of Kesaputta sitting on one side said to the Blessed One: "There are some monks and brahmins, venerable sir, who visit Kesaputta. They expound and explain only their own doctrines; the doctrines of others they despise, revile, and pull to pieces. Some other monks and brahmins too, venerable sir, come to Kesaputta. They also expound and explain only their own doctrines; the doctrines of others they despise, revile, and pull to pieces. Venerable sir, there is doubt, there is uncertainty in us concerning them. Which of these reverend monks and brahmins spoke the truth and which falsehood?"

The Buddha replied:

"It is proper for you, Kalamas, to doubt, to be uncertain; uncertainty has arisen in you about what is doubtful. Come, Kalamas. Do not go upon what has been acquired by repeated hearing; nor upon tradition; nor upon rumor; nor upon what is in a scripture; nor upon surmise; nor upon an axiom; nor upon specious reasoning; nor upon a bias towards a notion that has been pondered over; nor upon another's seeming ability; nor upon the consideration, 'The monk is our teacher.' Kalamas, when you yourselves know: 'These things are bad; these things are blamable; these things are censured by the wise; undertaken and observed, these things lead to harm and ill,' abandon them.

http://www.viewonbuddhism.org/resources/kalama_sutra.html

In the end, I suppose there will be those who will persue diligently, with surely many falls, until they reach enlightenment. Others will keep sticking their fingers in other people's asses and smell it and then criticize. This is as close they will ever get to enligtenment. My friends, empower yourself with the wisdom of the kalama suttra and don't waste time with the some of the trash, gutter, baseless comments that some of use, less awake that you are doing here!

Good luck and blesings on your journey.

 
At 10/27/2009 3:21 AM, Anonymous Mani said...

*** part 1/4***

Hi All,

I wrote comments that is big so divided it into 4 parts. Please read with patientce. thankyou.

I have gone thorough the negative opinions at Guruphiliac, link ("Anti"). I have analysed the contents there in two prescpectives. One is from personal expereiences/knowledge and second one is from the angle of common sense.

Personal experiences: I have expereienced personally and seen the miracles that Pramahamsa Nithyananda Swamigal has done. To explain all of them is too big for this session. But one such miracle that he continous to do is Healing where almost you can find a Healer in each and every part of the world. Number of Healers continue to grow big with time. And healing is completely at free of cost.

From the Angle of common sense: The negative opinions there does not say that Swamigal is not a real guru. What it says can be summarized as follows...

a) Swamigal asks to stop doubtting him or his Movement: I have never heard him saying that you shouldn`t doubt him or his movement. Instead he himself says that I doubt everything and experiment things in order to belive it. Sample is see the video in youtube "1st Samadhi Experience of Nithyananda" where he talks about cutting his own thigh. I really feel pity for the blog poster Mr. Jody Radzik for missing a good guru. Actually Jody Radzik misunderstood the concept of "Vidharkam, Kudharkam". Swamigal often says for the cosmic energy to flow inside us, to see the miracles of cosmic energy, or for to be successful in the path of enlightenment we should be in the state of Vidharkam (beliving , atleast not doubting , i.e. atleast be empty). For example Swamigal says Apple looks beautiful, sweet in taste, good for health. Just by hearing it a person who is new to apple may not understand/belive it. So first doubt it, then to clear your doubts read many articles, consult many doctors then at some point you will come to a conclusion about apple. Now you have decided that apple is good for you. And now you are starting to eat it. Just stop!! when eating, be clear that apple is good, never go back to your old state of mind and start doubting apple again, because research also says take your food with complete peace of mind, taste it to the fullest so as to get the whole benefit out of it. This what Swamigal says first doubt it, then test it, then out of some reason you will understand GOD CANNOT BE ANALYSED, REASONED OR FORMULATED but can be subtly sensed by us under some circumstances like expereincing some miracles that are not with in the ambit of Science. You may ask does miracles are the standarads to sense god. For this I ask you another question? Your parents love you unconditionally. You belive this. But in their last will they write some 50% of their properties to some body else and only 50% to you, Now what you will think? you start doubting their love for you. Now I ask you, Does unconditinal love can be equated with money? No certainly not but unfortunately that is the scale of measure. Like this for me too there are many grumblings against god. But unfortunately for all those questions I dont have answers with me, instead I have to belive what intelligent people like Swamigal or Buddha or Jesus or Vethathiri Maharisi or Maharisi Mahesh yogi or Jagi Vasudev or J Krishnamurthi or Ramalinga Vallalar or Ravi Shankar Guruji or Osho or many others have said. I cant keep questioning or doubting forever, the way to go forward is put your questions or doubts in a cold storage (note here I am not asking to put it in a dust bin) and start progressing and at appropriate time bring those doubts and questions to life. Also I have two other grumblings against those who always belive in science and take pride in sixth sense, ONE is aren`t they ashamed of many assumptions that are part of Physics? aren`t they ashamed of many laws and rules (like thumb rule in electricity) in physics and engineering? *** to be continued part 1/4***

*** to be continued part 2/4***

 
At 10/27/2009 3:22 AM, Anonymous Mani said...

*** continued part 2/4***

Second haven`t you realize that Brain via which we get sixth sense is itself made of matters that belongs to this cosmos. The research that we do is over the matter that belongs to this cosmos

b) Swamigal doesnt allow ashramites to sleep: Not only his ashramites, even new goers who are going to learn meditation classes (NSP) from him. New entrants can directly enroll themselves for this NSP class and in that 4 days class one-night people should stay awakened for the whole night and do a meditation. Swamigal says it is from dakrness or emptiness the whole cosmos got created and therefore to get energy stay awakened, i.e. not to sleep. Its just a little tricky topic, please understand. In the Jeevan Mukhti book Swamigal says when one feels that it is no longer possible for a person to carry on the routine work of the day he fells asleep and when it is no longer possible for a person to use his body for day to day activities he leaves the body(death). Despite this if Swamy asks his ashramites and new goers to win sleep means there should be a meaning in it. Fortunately I had one experience so that I can comment on it. Approximately six months ago I was about to go out for a work but I was sick at that time and I worked for the whole day and I could not go out as planned, so I laid on the bed to take some rest. Suddenly what happenend is an energy different from that of what blog poster Mr. Jody radzik experienced when Swamy touched his forehead (Note: I too had this energy expereince) passed into my body especially my head, stomatch and chest parts for 3 to 4 seconds. To my surprise I felt a freshness what I use to feel after a sleep of 8 hours. This energy penetration happened twice consecutively. But that freshness did not last long, what I feel is if that energy penetration could happen for hours together imagine the freshness!!!! Probably those who are working too much in the ashram may be blessed with
this energy or they are being trained to master that energy. But all these are my guess. And regarding the blog posters another comment that Swamy makes ashramites work, work, work to the point of physical and mental exhaustion means Swamy makes to work to the point of mindless state, remember the path of enlightenment speaks about mindless state. Swamy in NSP class says about those who do this meditation truly by being awakened for the one whole night will feel freshness for the whole day.

c) He only believes in propagating his name, and acquiring money - not true religion:
First if he set asides the religion and talks only about mind, meditation and yoga he can make more money than what he makes using the religion as more people of different beliefs can be targetted.

d) Religion is only a front just for outward appearance. He actually disrepects Gods in private sessions saying bad derogatory comments about them: I dont have any idea about this, first I need to know what is the actual derogatory comments as user has not posted it, secondly I need to establish its genuiness and thridly I need to take it up with Swami`s close disciple for clarification.

e) I`ve seen him belittle and berate his ashramites shamelessly - it is emotional torture and humiliation. He claims it is "for their own good" to help them "lose their ego": For this comment I feel Swamigal can be more affectionate but still I belive in Swamigal and I belive he do things for a purpose. Dear friends I would like to tell you about another story I heard about Sri Ravi Shankar guruji of Art of Living makes his disciples to go and beg in the public so as to lose their ego.

f) He is a very sick, sick man who is egotistical, interested in fame and fortune: Regarding this comment on ego I feel we should leave enough space for their personal prefrences unless and until it hurts others. What it is if one has lot and long hair? what it is if one is dark skinned?

*** to be continued part 3/4***

 
At 10/27/2009 3:22 AM, Anonymous Mani said...

***continued part 3/4***

what it is if one prefers coffe? what it is if one is too attached with his language? Ultimately we should reliaze that they are in the form of human body at the end, they will have certainly all senses what we have, let them enjoy certain things what they want :)

And for comments regarding fame and fortune, just now starts the music for the blog poster, let us use our common sense If a person interested in fame and fortune means he should do programmes for public. First of all Swamigal does programme for only a closed group or a privately chosen group of people, If I am right Swamy has done too little public fuctions. During a question whether you will come to politics? Swamy says only politician should come to sprituality and not the other way. A person interested in fame and fortune should not hesitate to come in public and start politics. Also a person interested in fame and fortune should actually enjoy them. I ASK THE BLOG POSTER WHAT IS THE ENJOYMENT THAT SWAMY HAS? If any let him share with others. According to me In addition to routine boring meditation classes what Swamy lost is the privacy.

See just with our common sense we can understand any common human being does require money so as lead a rich life like taking food at five star hotels, passing time at resorts or hilstations etc. Wearing clothes that are so costly and modern, To pass time without putting self into hardwork etc. etc. In all these above listing if you comapare with swamy, Swamigal is leading a very boring life. He leads a life that is so simple though he uses cars he needs it to travel, His travel schedules are there for public display in his website. Is travelling not a big boring and tiring one. Together with meeting 1000s of people touching thier forehead, saying the same thing again and again , hugging people irespective of people with leporsy, with bad mouth odour and other diseases including communicable one. He keeps busy schedule, no time pass, no rest, simple towel as his dress.

See one needs full confidence in him to meet people with communicable diseases especially where the victim himself doesn`t know about it. Recently in the NSP Swamigal spoke about Swine-Flu. So he is aware of it.

And also in this modern internet age one cannot keep deceiving (if so) for long and that to thousands or lakhs of people, eg. the Kalpataru Darshan where wishes are given life by Swamigal. Immediately as how Mr. Jody Radzik has taken the media route to publish his version of views. eg. One can easily take the internet route if his wish is not turned into reality in kalpataru. For eg. take my case I had chronic IBS for more than 8.5 years, took many types of medicine like allopathy, homeopathy, auyrvedha etc. But only after coming to swamy there are positive changes. Though fully not away from IBS but Iam realizing the progress, now its visible to me as how my own thougts affects me and my own thoughts were the reasons for my sufferings. So now I can either take the internet route to bring down the Swamigal since in one touch my probelms are not over like a magic. Or be patient and learn from him and other great saints what`s so important tasks of human birth.

Just as how we use google to data-mine the internet infos, just do use your common sense to judge swamigal. There are few not-so-desirable things about swamigal but it doesnt means he is wrong as a whole, just take from him what you want, If you are not ok in his ashram just be outside of it and get from him what you want. To be with swamigal in few days class itself (eg. BSP + healer session) is a very tiring one. Therefore it is not that easy to be with swamy in his ashram, I have heard once that swamy himself has accepted this.

*** to be continued part 4/4***

 
At 10/27/2009 3:22 AM, Anonymous Mani said...

*** continued part 4/4***

For the complaints such as he teaches what others have already taught to the world (eg. Osho`s dynamic meditation is Dhukha-harna here in swamys meditation class). Again use common sense "If what is to be taught is already taught then a genuine person could be a genuine person one and only if he taughts the same thing again", to make himself unique if one taughts some crapp useless things whats the use. Swamigal himself have said in the NSP what I am teaching here is what I learned from other gurus, he even quoted about J.K. Murthy. Iam thanking all of them. Similarly you thank all the gurus you have met. Isn`t he is simple in his approach. And what Swamigal says is each enlightened master will have one identity for them, like light body of Ramalinga Swamigal and now Siva Baba (I dont know much about him), the almost flying meditation of Maharishi Mahesh Yogi. etc. etc. If you want Swamigal to teach some unique things find it out what is unique about him.

Actually we should be compassionate to people like him whose life is dedicated for the upliftment of people entrapped in unknown , undetecteable problems. Dedicated for people so as to give clarity in their thought s and the way they have conduct life . Dedicated for people who are in sufferings. Imagine one such life its too terrible. Also Imagine if you are in the place of Swamigal do you like that life not for few days are months but for years together.

Really I feel the pain and pity for people who became so close to Swamy and latter departed Swamigal based on these trivial issues. Let them be happy in one way or the other.

Thank You,
Mani.
*** over part 4/4***

 
At 10/27/2009 9:31 AM, Blogger jody radzik said...

Suddenly what happenend is an energy different from that of what blog poster Mr. Jody radzik experienced when Swamy touched his forehead

This is a lie. I've never been touched by Nithy. Heck, I've never even seen him. I've just talked to inner circles devotees who've left him after he became the ego-monster we all know him to be today.

 
At 10/28/2009 10:05 AM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

Dear Jody,
Can one speak to you without it being published? I have great concerns about Nithyananda, but am fearful to have these published as some may be able to identify me by what I say.

 
At 10/28/2009 10:44 AM, Blogger jody radzik said...

Can one speak to you without it being published?

Anyone can reach me at tips@guruphiliac.org.

 
At 10/30/2009 12:17 AM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

****Part 1****
I am the person who put the original post and I'm surprised at all the attention that it's generated. First, A big Thank You to Jody for boldly exposing the truth.
Obviously Nithyananda got wind of what was happening and told his abused minions to flood the site to counter the post.
My message to all supporting Nithyananda and to ashramite Mani who put the incredibly long 4 part post, my response is:
Hahahahahaha!!! It's hilarious that you bothered to write so much! Who are you trying to convince - me or yourselves!? Aren't you guys supposed to be "unclutched" from it all? No it was not a crazy rant - it is all truth. You say Nithyananda lives a "simple" life - that's a crock! He buys the latest and most expensive cell phones, travels first class in airplanes, is obsessed with looking good and being surrounded by good looking women, etc. He does no charity work - another front - just a photo op. He hates old people. Everyone in his "inner circle" are pressurized to run around and do his biddings to try and please him and gain his attention and love. Do you think the ashramites have time to do any meditation (which he says is important in his public lectures)or worship God at all? If this is really a religion - isn't that what they should be doing? NO! All they do is making fliers, posters, songs, websites, posting talks on youtube, scanning the internet for bad postings against their master so they can write a comment "clarifying" their "vedic" position, writing books which straight out copy from other masters book (ordered by N to do so), faking some small scale charity event, exaggerating any small incident that makes him look good and brushing under the carpet the stuff that doesn't, etc - all to promote HIM, his face, his image on every little item they sell. This is not vedic religion, it's religion of Nithyananda! This is why they greet each other with "nithyanandam", it could have been "om namah Shivayah" but it's not. This is egotistical behavior of N! Me posting the truth for people not to be suckers is not egotistical. It's doing the right thing which is dharmic.

 
At 10/30/2009 12:18 AM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

***Part 2*****
The "healing" is fake - he's said so himself - he said it is ALL placebo effect, nothing more. If his energy field and healing abilities are so wonderful, then why does he himself as well as ashramites take medications for pain, etc?
Mani asks, " I ASK THE BLOG POSTER WHAT IS THE ENJOYMENT THAT SWAMY HAS? If any let him share with others...[what] Swamy lost is the privacy."
His enjoyment is that his empire is better than running a business - you have "employees" aka ashramites that work 24/7 with no pay, you get all their assets when they sign up, you get youngsters that don't really know religion so they believe and obey everything he says, they serve him, they do everything he asks no matter what, he gets to abuse them verbally, physically, emotionally with no repercussions, the public love him because he is so "compassionate"; everyone worships him, his name, his image; he gets golden thrones, he makes false promises and when he's caught on it, he just claims "oh, existence must not have wanted that to happen" so his double-speak just goes on,....need I go on? There are NO miracles, just exaggerated claims made that when something has happened on its own, he claims it was He who made this "miracle" happen.
Nithyananda claims to be enlightened - while I agree he has siddhis, he is NOT enlightened. Ask him to perform the "miracle" of removing all these negative comments about him on the internet - can he do it? No! Of course if you ask him, he will use the b.s. of "I'm not here to show off my miracle power". That's Nithyananda double-speak - make up a crap excuse to cover your butt when you can't deliver. And then exaggerate that you did a miracle when something happens to go right. Convenient.
I'm not posting these comments out of hate - believe it or not I don't hate Nithyananda - but I do hate how he's duping the public. It's not right. And when something is not right on such a grand scale, we should stand up for dharma even if it's difficult.
Lastly, I implore all Nithyananda followers to please please see him for what he really is, you are wasting this life chasing the enlightenment carrot on a stick held in front of you. Worship the real God who is sending a sign to you through my post. If you still choose to stay despite my pleas, then you deserve the karma you get. Good luck in your lives. God Bless. Om namah Sivayah. Hari Om.

 
At 11/13/2009 6:10 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

MY God, So many negative comments. If Jody and company could put even 10% of their energy working towards their own improvement they would have attained enlightenment themselves and become one with divine and would not be updating this hate filled, deluded blof abusing spiritual masters. He is my guru and I have only become happier, healthier and more fullfilled after meeting him. You guys need to focus ur energies on something constructive and not waste your live spewing hatred at Godly figures

 
At 11/19/2009 7:01 AM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

Ohh my God, you people have no life or what... you must be living on some social assistance or something to have such time and energy to write all this nonsense. Look here, swamiji is the the divine and he is the almighty okay... so stop with your garbage, just because you might not have got what you wanted doesnt make you a human to write what you want. so stop this garbage about all this nonsense and grow up to be a real true lover... stop with hatred and just be an observer...really what are you going to achieve from all thiss.... are you going to win a million dollars no,,this is adding more to your karmas..... so just rethink and dont waste your time... find something fun to do... take care... i love Nithyananda... and he is my life nothing like this will change what i feell.... your a bogus...and so are those who write all this nonsense...... help the needy dont waste time on things like this...GOd bless your soul poor being suffering with some depression or so.....get some treatement.... thanks

 
At 11/23/2009 3:24 AM, Blogger yashu said...

Hi

I am 23 years age old, i have attended my ASp, NSP and kalpataru after attending NSP , i have found lot of changes in my life where i am always happy ,i like his teaching we will lead a beautifull life if we follow him, i am a great devotee of him,

 
At 11/23/2009 7:45 AM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

Believe in YOURSELF....DONT JUST LEARN TO CONDEMN OTHER'S . YOU WILL goto HELL !!!!

 
At 12/07/2009 4:34 AM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

Namaste!
I think he is god (aand all other people are god) but let everybody have their own beleives.

 
At 12/12/2009 10:11 PM, Blogger Darin said...

That four part comment was hilarious, it was almost as if the devotee wrote the whole thing to move one up in the Nithy cult or something. Maybe they thought they are standing up for him but really it just shows the world how diluted and controlled you are by his false teachings. I was thinking if you could call Nithy our generations Bill Wilson? Bill W.'s org. cures nothing and has a horrible success rate most people relapse. I wonder what an Nithy relapse is like maybe a Nithy zombie goes insane from the cult teachings and ends up in a psyc ward. And yes I have chatted with Jody publicly on his blog but to say that Jody and company make it our life's purpose to post on his blog is absurd.

 
At 12/12/2009 10:13 PM, Blogger Darin said...

oh yeah one more thing this specific thread is the second result that comes up when you google nithy seems people may be catching on to his real agenda but like the old saying goes there is a sucker born every five minutes. To close "May God Help Us All" lol peace :)

 
At 12/16/2009 6:57 PM, Anonymous Senthil Kumar said...

NITHYANANDAM.

My life has totally changed after I attended NSP last year. That 4 days in NSP with Paramahamsa Nithyananda were the happiest days of my life. I have met Niothyananda at NSP, 4 times at Kalpataru Programs, Guru Poornima Function & Jeevan Mukthi Book Release Function, so totally 7 times.

I really cant understand how you people are speaking bad about him!

While attending NSP, Swami will conclude the days program by night aroung 11:30 only. We all will start sleeping at 12:30 or 01:00 after speaking with Parents & Close friends over phone. First of all after that entire days schedule, we will not feel sleepy itself at night, we will all be still fresh only. Morning we will wake up at 03:00. so that we can get ready soon, lots of people will be waiting for taking bath. So we all will get up early, no other way.

At Six, we all will have Tea, at Seven Swami will come and start the program. It will again go till mignight with some breaks.

Out of the 4 days in NSP, one day full night we should be awake doing meditation. But still, we will not feel tired.

SO, BEING WITH SWAMI FOR 4 DAYS AT NSP, DOESNT CREATE ANY TIREDNESS IN US, ALSO WE WOULD BE FRESH ALWAYS AFTER HECTIC MEDITATION PRACTISES, JUST 2 TO 3 HOURS SLEEP PER DAY, FOOD SERVED WILL BE VERY LESS TO INCREASE MEDITATION POWERS, BUT STILL WE WOULD BE FRESH.

WHAT ABOUT ASHRAMITES? Just being 4 days itself gives us so much bliss, will not the ashramites feel the bliss Lakh times more than us?

SO TO THIS TOPIC CREATOR - STOP SPREADING RUMORS ABOUT PARAMAHAMSA NITHYANANDA.

 
At 12/18/2009 5:51 AM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

Shree Paramahansa Nithyananda has changed my life so much that I am filled with gratitude. I am surprised you guys are cribbing about money. We live in an era of inequality where in half the people have all the comforts and the other half is fighting for survival. There spiritual iorganisation do the much needed redistribution of wealth from haves to have nots. And common , none of the courses are overcharged. Life changing courses are priceless

You guys are just bitter because of whatever expereince you had (maybe give few of your dollars for charity was too much to bear for you)

 
At 12/18/2009 10:01 AM, Blogger Darin said...

Don't blame one person for being the topic creator. There are a lot of people who believe that what nithy does is selling snake oil to unsuspecting individuals. Your whole post made not a lot of sense. I dont understand how waking up at 3 AM is needed so everyone can take a bath. Maybe its because the furthest I bought into the nithy bliss craze was purchasing a book from lifebliss.org. Can you explain why everyone at this retreat felt more alive or what not from sleeping from midnight to 3 am, my belief was the body needs more sleep then that. thank you.

 
At 12/20/2009 1:25 AM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

Normally you see a glow with godmen which is missing here. The examples give on topics are from Films & filmstars which is sure to attract the dirty crowd which is needed by the crowdpuller. GOD save the ingnorant deciples

 
At 1/06/2010 6:28 AM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

Live and Let Live . For every action there is a reaction and this duality is what life is all about . Honestly is there was no negative percerptions about Swami method and message then his purpose would be defeated so one should have comments of all kind . It would be prudent if s disciple or a follower decides to adopt a certain way of thinking or follow a certain way of living only on the basis of his inner feelings and not someone elses observation and thoughts . Even Swami says so he is medium for conveying the messages from the universal consiciousness so give importance to the message and not the interface hope some of you genuine confused souls undersatnd . Does an exciting story lose its charm if read from a paperback instead of designer hardbound publication for some to get the benefit makeover os required remember the aim is to transmit the message and not the messenger.

 
At 1/11/2010 6:45 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

i discovered nithyananda just recently what puzzeled me are the prices of his courses - 6000 dollars for 21 days? - isn't it too much in india and if in the same ashram a civil engineer is offered a salary of a few hundred euros can anyone tell me why are the prices so high and where exactly the money goes - is it ALL for charity? and is there any accountability in his so called trust? i am not doubting or even commenting his teachings which i feel to be truthful.

 
At 1/11/2010 10:32 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

A personal experience,
my grandmother was suffering from stage 4 colo-rectal cancer and the tumour had spread to her bladder. The prognosis was poor without colorectal surgery but she was refusing to have it. They told her she might have months, at most without the operation.
She is a catholic and refused to go in for anything. However, my mum (her daughter) is a Nithyananda follower and encouraged her to at least attend Kalpataru and ask Swami to heal her, since she was refusing the surgery.
My grandmother went, but with little faith, Swami just told her, "you will be alright" and touched her forehead.
Her doctors said she had little hope, but agreed to chemotherapy though they were still pushing for surgery, and even so not promising anything.
One year down the line, the cancer has completely gone and even her blood tumour markers are lower than normal. Her oncologist was shocked and said that it was completely impossible, an utter miracle. The initial spread had been to great for chemo and radiotherapy alone to make much difference. Now she is fine, hail and hearty in fact.
Since that personal experience, my sense of doubt reduced greatly and I'm ever so thankful to Swami.
E.K.Pillai

 
At 1/13/2010 6:07 PM, Blogger tjilatjila said...

How can the programs cost so much?
I pay for my flat here some 100 Euro or around 150 $ per month, earn 300 Euro or 450 $ per month.
8000$ - for whom is it?
Quite a business does this Paramahamsa Nithyananda...

 
At 1/17/2010 1:33 AM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

Hi Anon " A Personal experience",

I'm glad that your grand mother got cured of colo-rectal cancer. But, bfore we accept this miracle, please post a before and after letters from her gastroenterologist that the cure did happen. Swami Nithyananda is a self serving big propaganda michine. So, please send this info to this forum owner privately a proof before we believe your words for it.Too many placebo and fake miracles by fake guru's going on now a days!Swami Nithananda told his devotees to go and tell all kinds of lies to any body. He knew the placebo factors and numbers very well!

 
At 1/20/2010 9:48 AM, Anonymous bhakthananda said...

I was a close follower of Nithyananda. But when i got more closer and as closer to his inner circle then i found it was a big farce. The whole organisation is run like an enterprise, a business. What justification is that to charge $6000 for a 21 day inner awekening course? and at the end of the 21 day, he blesses everyone that "YOU ARE ALL ENLIGHTENED" now. I was one among them. Are we really enlightened??? God..
Any dog will feel good if he is in an environment away from day to day worldly activities just doing yoga, meditation, eating sathvic food and listening to good things.. But is the dog going to be enlightened. I was part of the bunch of fools.
During the course of this program, lot of marketing is being nailed into our heads on how to spread the word and how to bring more people for the next inner awakening program.
It is like "speak good to 5 people" and 2 will attend.
Dear Folks, please wake up. Please believe in reality.
Money talks and if you have to get Nithya sir's special blessings you need to have money.
What actually does he do to you or what has he done to you rather than just a feel good factor with his well prepared speeches???
In Nithyananda, realised soul and a human being.

 
At 1/21/2010 4:23 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

Bhakthananda,

my personal experience about people who talk that Swami Nithyananda has occult powers and that they go in to deeper meditation I think is false feeling. Once you are in relaxed state of mind you naturally tend to go in to deeper meditaion state. Of couse you have a big placebo effect of all people brainwashing you once you are there. Only one power Nithyananda seem to have on very few people, is this energy he transfers only to one in 50 or 100 people who feel in their chakras for a few moments to few days which might be addicting according to them. I personally did not feel this despite Nithyananda touched my forhead for many times. So, it is a not proven power or it works all the time. Of course he will blame that you are not ready if you did not feel it eventhough you are with him for years!

 
At 1/22/2010 7:04 AM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

Caution! knowing Bhakthananda, I don't think this post is from "him". He wouldn't do something so cheap...he will exit, if he wants , with dignity and that day will be the end of this whole scam!

 
At 1/24/2010 10:34 AM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

"Paramahamsa" Nithyananda healing secrets releaved! This is a must read.

http://nithyatales.webs.com/nithyanandahealing.htm

I can't believe his cunning strategy! What a business secret and a con job in the name of enlightenment!

 
At 1/29/2010 9:15 AM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

Better moderation and more thoughtful posts might raise the credibility here. This blog is at #2 on Google when searching "Nithyananda", but too much of the dialog is drivel. I'd like to hear from others on their experiences with Nithyananda, but I'm finding way too much unfounded banter and finger pointing. That's unfortunate. This blog could be useful and informative to those who would like more info on gurus, especially those new to the guru system.

 
At 1/29/2010 9:44 AM, Blogger jody radzik said...

Better moderation and more thoughtful posts might raise the credibility here.

I'd have to agree. With all the other things I do in life, it's just not possible to read all the comments carefully. For instance, the debate about Indian folk going on here, while perhaps interesting and germane to the topic in an offhand way, really has descended to the level of drivel. No more comments of that nature will pass here.

As far as more thoughtful posts, I've found I've become largely disinterested in chasing down and chastising every narcissistic guru who comes down the pike, for they are legion. I'd be open to letting other folks write posts here, provided they were in alignment with this blog's reason d'etre, which is to expose those individuals who employ the folk theory of enlightenment as a marketing conceit.

 
At 1/30/2010 5:12 AM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

Very impressed with Nithyananda's videos, I thought I got what I was looking for all these years. Immediately wanted to find out how could I meet him? Then came to know that no free initiation / Darshan possible. With all due respect , no one to be criticised.. I want to know can a common Indian would ever have a chance to get initiated ? Or it's only for those westners or rich Indians who could afford...$$$$$$$. I want to know how many $s Nitaynanda's Guru(s)charged him. Arunachala Siva.. how different they were, Nityananda has himself mentioned about his own guru in one of his video, who never even kept a penny with himself even if someone offered..and if all these $$$$s Charged by Nityananda are donations, can he donate me a darshan without charging me...Not that I can't afford it, but in spiritual path if money becomes a hurdle...then I have to think am i on right path...

And what the organisation has to do in between Guru and Chela..do I have to go through so many so called enlightened doorkeepers, what are they for...

Even Pujya Babajee's desciple Lahiri Mahasay never asked for money for initiating anyone...And here "in 21 days enlightenment" available on sell , is this the way human journey ends ? that one day he/she will have earned $6000 to pay one Guru and then..... Nirvana.

One of doorkeeper told me...If you can't pay you can't have darshan...I wanted to attend his programme.. with family and 4 of us means Rs 20000/- . Not an easy sum for an average Indian family

Anyway Pujya Babajee is watching everything..

No one should get offended as I truely believe, God is in everone...however when I encountered such situation, few questions cameup in mind.. unfortunately I can't meet Guru Nityanada to ask some of the questions and some of disciples would only answer. And as per Guru Nityanand, noon should come in between Guru and Shisya but then why this Organisation?

 
At 1/30/2010 5:27 AM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

I want to know how many $s Nitaynanda's Guru Charged him ? If everything charged by him is donation then his so called enlighted doorkeepers should not insist everyone to pay. Let them pay whatever they can.

How many $s Guru Nityanada had to spend for enligtenment ? Does Pujya babajee has given him license to sell Enlightenment? Going by the current rate, can average Indian buy it, or it's only meant for Westeners and rich Indians ?

He talks about following Indian Lifestyle to Indians...None of his Video's reflect that simplicity...

Even his photograph also is for sale..Want to know what and where he offers free services so that I could go and and atleast have his free darshan.

Can guru Nityananda donate me his darshan , his guru never use to keep even a penny with him even if someone offered..

Sorry , I am not enlightened, have closed mind...and not able to understand how come so much of difference between Him and His Guru..

 
At 1/30/2010 6:29 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

Hi Jody,

I see your name is mentioned at Nithyananda-cult.blogspot.com

The following is the comment.

January 29, 2010 4:10 PM

peanut brittle said...

Mr "Swamiji is God"

It is interesting how you said, "bloggers like Jody R of Guruphilliac...He not only criticizes all the master humanity has known he abuses them to the core. He has destroyed hinduism and abused all the masters that I have heard of."
Jody only exposed the TRUTH about these so-called "masters". So now it's Jody's fault just because these are bad people and Jody's blog simply publishes the information?

So when someone gets raped, it's the victim's fault for identifying the rapist and it's the victim's fault for getting raped in the first place?

 
At 1/30/2010 6:33 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

Jody.

Another post at Nithyananda-cult.blogspot.com mentions your name..

January 29, 2010 11:36 PM

Anonymous said...
Sig Part II

Don’t get me wrong. You are criticizing Jody and this blog owner but, have you ever heard Swami Nithyananda criticizing other Gurus! I was amazed by the way Swami Nithyananda was criticizing OSHO, Ramakrishna, UDk, and many other gurus especially after copying their material word by word. If swami criticizes and chastises it is ok but Jody does it is not? Because Nithyananda is a enlightened person, so he has a right to criticize, hah! No, no, no! We don’t agree to your argument that Jody or this blogger are doing anything to Hinduism, in fact they are helping us understand both sides of it, and so you a person with good brains can go with these masters and ask questions. The minute the Master says “drop all your questions”, please run away from that guy like Swami Nithyananda says, because asking questions is not against surrender. See if you ask a good question you get black listed by Swami Nithyananda at his ashram and he will start rumors against you and starts creating tensions against you with others.

It is the fake self serving swamis that are creating information to this blog spots. Most bloggers in this blog were in very much deep inner circles of Swami Nithyananda before we said this is not for us. We had given him everything. You may say he did not ask it. Not really! Nithyananda has ways to ask you continuously with his followers and innuendos saying that “see that devotee is doing more, see this person has put the property papers in hundi, see this person Sachit gave me his one crore plot in Hyderabad, see this person has gave me this university. He will stop talking to you after you have surrendered and you have given up everything to give more! Next step is pushing you to become ashramites fulltime by giving up your job! Step by step he takes control over your life and your family life”. This is what I call Brainwashing! Mind control of a person who is mentally week because he has already surrendered completely. This happened to us, and that’s why we are telling others to think about it before you go all the way in to this.

SIG, I probably think that is why you say you never want to be “insider”. Because you will have to do the smallest micromanagement things asked by Nithyananda.

 
At 1/30/2010 6:37 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

Another good Nithyananda cult Story post for this forum readers.

January 30, 2010 6:57 AM

Anonymous said...
Sig, here you go again!
Part 1

Swami Nithyananda’ Brainwashing words again.

"Swamiji always says and we devotees also notice that his shouting is also done out of pure compassion".

Now, this is complete non-sense. If Swami Nithyananda is an enlightened master and God as you portrayed to be then Swami Nithyananda does not need to use the above statement. In the name of pure compassion when you’re the ashramites is working for 18 hours to 20 hours and you in the name of guru-sishya relationship abuse the person physically and mentally beating them with intentional disregard to his surrender status is COMPLETELY NOT ACCEPTABLE BEHAVIOR, even if you are God in modern day. Swami Nithyananda is playing with fire. Soon, there will be lot of complaints against him in India also at Bidadi and he will sure get arrested one of these days.

Swami Nithyananda can't do things against law even if he thinks he is God.

You said, " it is done out of compassion and necessity". Again it is not. If Swami Nithyananda claims to be God and divine he has to exude that divinity where by people follow him with that divinity. Beating the surrendered ashramites only shows that he wants to be in control of their mind, by beating them is not the way to teach or show to the path of enlightenment. The minute Swami Nithyananda does that he has lost his credibility as teacher. If he wants to stay in India and if it the norm in India, beating the disciples, than even that has to change. If you can't make a disciple change by worlds of a "healing enlightened master" like Nithyananda, then Nithyananda should ask them to leave the ashram. But he should not beat them with sticks in bidadi which is against law.

But, I think Nithyananda doesn't want them to leave because he has to show how powerful he is. This beating own people and killing in the name of punishment is done by mafia worldwide. What is the difference between Nithyananda and Mafia then?

The law is clear to Nithyananda and all. You can't beat adult disciples who have surrendered and talking shelter under you. They may be from rural Tamilnadu who are devotional with no education, does not mean you can abuse them with sticks and verbal mental torture? Where will they go then? They have left their families and surrendered to him in India at bidadi. I see that is why many runaway in the first week who come in to "one year free stay at dorm and experience spirituality and Nithyananda" program. I see most of the bidadi deciples are from rural Tamilnadu who left Tamilnadu and came to Bangalore for a so called God because of propaganda by Nithyananda’ machine.

 
At 1/30/2010 6:37 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

Par II of the post.
January 30, 2010 7:37 AM
Anonymous said...
SIG Here you go.
Part II

You say "People come to the ashram for their own personal growth and self realization and in no way they are coming there as a sacrifice or something. They are choosing that path and come there and ask Swamiji to guide them".

But, in reality the Nithyananda propaganda mission is giving that false image where people are coming and joining his mission. Slowly with Nithyananda’ brainwashing techniques they lose their identity and depend on him for basic survival. That's when Nithyananda will go for the jugular by making you small and belittle! By then you are trapped and can't do much. You are stuck in the organization for years. Instead of spiritual practice you are doing money making programs and making Nithyananda rich. This is all a con game that is played in USA again and again by fake gurus in the name of enlightenment.

IF YOU ARE SO REALIZED THAT SWAMI NITHYANANDA IS GOD THEN WHY ARE YOU NOT IN HIS MISSION AS ASHRAMITE FULL TIME? THAT MEANS YOU ARE STILL HAVING DOUBTS. YOU STILL THINK YOU NEED MORE EDUCATION OR MORE MONEY IN LIFE. IT MAY ALSO MEANS THAT YOU ARE SACRED OF YOUR PARENTS WHO ARE SAYING NO TO YOUR JOINING IN THE MISSION AND DEDICATING YOUR LIFE TO YOUR GOD SWAMI NITHYANANDA. WHAT DO YOU FEAR?(sorry, Caps are not intended for shouting, I’m not Nithyananda)

We have all heard your statements above directly from Nithyananda when were with him. These are not new arguments.

Why do you think more than 10 Acharyas and more than 2 maha-Acharya left the organization? It is the most shameful thing for Nithyananda and his organization. After five years and after supposedly receiving enlightenment these Acharyas and maha-acharyas have left!

 
At 1/30/2010 7:07 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

Very important post about Nithyananda's greed is posted at:

"Its Good to be a King" in http://nithyatales.webs.com

or

http://nithyatales.webs.com/fraudnithyanandaking.htm

 
At 2/01/2010 1:23 AM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

Excellent post at the Nithytales website: a must read for this forum group:

http://nithyatales.webs.com/nithyanandahealing.htm

Paramahamsa Nithyananda's Healing Secrets Revealed.

As a sequel to our original story on healing in our More Fairy Tales section, we decided to expose the most important secrets of Nithyananda's "super secret healing" powers.

When you are a delusional "saint" growing your spiritual empire at a break neck speed, you are bound to say things here and there to people and not realize what you actually said. Such is the case for Paramahamsa Sri Nithyananda where he has spilt his secrets to close devotees on occassion, not realizing these would come back to bite him at a later date; as is the case in this below.


To a close set of devotees back a few years ago, Swami Nithyananda divulged his healing secrets when prodded. It was an "inner circle" meeting with the closest of his disciples and one of the disciples mustered up the courage to ask Swamiji:


"Swamiji, you call healing your special power that draws people to you. Can you please tell us how you do this amazing thing as healing people."

Paramahamsa Nithyananda, in a particularly good mood that day says something along these lines (we do not have the exact words now but the gist of the conversation is captured below):


"Alright, normally I do not tell this out, because these are like my 'business' secrets. But since you are my close circle and you are sincerely asking, here is what it is. The healing is largely a placebo effect. Let us say a 100 people for example come for my healing. Let us break that into 4 groups:


Group 1 - Whether a doctor or I do anything or not does not matter with this group. 40 people (or 40%) will automatically get healed because of their body's innate ability to heal. The body is very intelligent and can heal itself in most cases. So that 40% get healed automatically but because of the word I have given them, they think that I healed them.


Group 2 - Take the next 20 people (or 20%), they will pray intensely to me or their Ishta devata (favorite God) or any God of their choice. Because of the intensity of their prayers, existence will take care of them and that covers this 20% who get healed and they attribute healing to me because of the word I have given to them.


Group 3 - The next 20 people (or 20%) although they do not get healed, they actually blame themselves. They think their "Vitarka" (faith in me) is not strong enough. So instead of assigning the blame on me that I did not heal, they will blame themselves that perhaps they did not trust my words strongly enough. They have heard of others who have gotten healed, but they feel they are not getting healed because their faith is not strong enough in me. So that is this 20%.


Group 4 - So that leaves us with just 20 people (or the last 20 %). This last 20%, actually nothing can be done, because they are people with total Kudarka (total lack of faith and trust). Jesus, Buddha, Ganesha can come down and say they will be healed or Krishna can come down and say they will be healed but they will not believe. So such people are naturally with strong Kudarka, will not believe me, no matter what I say.


So there you have it; without me actually doing anything we have covered 100% - some get healed and those who have Kudarka will have Kudarka and nothing happens. That is my secret."


And with that Swamiji laughs proudly .

Just wonderful isn't it? So let us make this easier as we do on this website with a graphic:

Must seee photos! Vist the website. Worth your time.

 
At 2/01/2010 1:30 AM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

Very interesting questions asked to Swami Nithyannad's main right hand devotee and partner at Nityananda -cult Blogspot:

January 31, 2010 8:49 AM

Anonymous said...

To Canadian Life Bliss Foundation and Toronto Swami Nithyananda Followers"

Please ask the following question to Ayya (or Sri Nithya Sadhananda Swami)..

Why Swami Nithyananda establishes fake Temples of Lord Venkateswara, Lord Shiva and other Hindu Gods but not perform any proper Poojas to them? Why only they read Nithyananda guru Pooja to these deities? Why can't Nithyananda just put his deity and let others pray? Why use other Hindu Gods for his selfish money making purposes? Why does Nithyananda go so low to make money? This is Blasphemy to other Hindu Gods!

Why Nithyananda establishes a Hindu Temple or you call Vedic temple when Nithyananda ‘s disciples are not performing proper rituals of specific God's mantras? Why are they using Nithyananda’s mantras?

Please ask these questions to Swami Nithyananda and Ayya. This is a very important question.

 
At 2/14/2010 12:16 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

Recent post of Swami Nithyananda's physical violence at the ashramites in Bidadi Ashram in the name of blessings:http://nithyananda-cult.blogspot.com/2010/02/paramahamsa-nithyanandas-marketing.html

AnandaCoconut said...
Swamiji was bragging about beating the ashramites during the 2007 Yatra.

Afterwards, I learned form those closer to Swamiji that on an occassion, he beat some ashramites so badly that he broke his last tandan (stick, bambo), so Swamiji resorted to throwing furniture at the ashramites. These guys seem to think that Swamiji knows what he was doing for the good of the ashramites.

Beating ashramites with a big stick was bad, throwing furniture? You never know if the furniture may not fatally or permanently injure the person.

In the 1997 Mission Training, Swamiji said that he could only shout at us here in America, in India his pujaris get puja (beating) when they didn't do everything exactly.

I never see the beating myself, but had heard Swamiji brag about it at least on three separate occasions. I also got witness account of the brutality from our ex-satsang leaders whom I know are very truthful people. They had all since escaped.

February 13, 2010 1:22 AM

Anonymous said...
Hello Anandacoconut,

I also heard about Swami Nithyananda's throwing furniture after he has beaten the ashramite by very hard bamboo stick. I also think this is a very sick practice for so called an enlightened master to do whether in India or USA. These poor people have no where to go. I heard he says " this is father and son relationship so it starts with puja and a stick".

May be somebody should start a fund to help these people who are stuck in this situation because they are depending on Swami Nithyananda and can't get out of there. Once they know there are support services, may be they will leave and go to local police at Bidadi, Bangalore. Somebody got to do something for this physical violence of Swami Nithyananda.

Any idea folks? I don't mind donating through paypal if someone wants to start helping these folks who don't speak English and no where to go.

I don't see too much outrage from the fellow Bloggers here. I don't mean any disrespect to fellow Bloggers.

February 13, 2010 7:03 PM

 
At 2/14/2010 12:18 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

Another major post about Swami Nithyananda's Physical violence for this blog forum readers..

From Nithyananda-cult.blogspot.com

Anonymous said...
"Paramahamsa" Swami Nityananda's Physical violence against ashramites in India..

I just checked major sites and found out that what Swami Nityananda is doing is considerd against commonly known as " Human Rights Violations". It seems India also has signed up as where no one surrendered should be beaten or physically threatend under this International Law. It seems Swami Nithyananda is violationg world human rights and definetly Indian human rights law.

Once some body surrenders to you and you are in control of mind and body of that person, you have the duty to take care of that person as humanly as possible. You can't abuse physically or mentally that person against internation Law. Even POW's are given this basic dignity and respect. What I hear is above and beyond my comprehension.

The following is the Wikepedia's first sentence of definition of Human rights: " Human rights are the "basic rights and freedoms to which all humans are entitled." [1] The doctrine of human rights aims to identify the necessary positive and negative prerequisites for a "universal" minimal standard of justice, tolerance and human dignity that can be considered the public moral norms owed by and to individuals by the mere virtue of their humanity".

Swami Nithyananda's definition of human rights may be differrent. But, we the people from all over the world should condemn that kind of behavior from even " Paramahamsas and Enlightened masters."

February 13, 2010 7:43 PM

 
At 2/14/2010 12:21 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

The following is the comment from Expose nityananda from the Nithyananda cult blogspot topic regarding Swami Nithyananda's physical violence against poor tamil Nadu villager ashramites:

Expose Nithyananda said...
Om Namah Shivaya,

Yes, Sri Nithyananda beats, as in physical violence, ashramites in India. Some are only in their teens. Sri Nithyananda is scared of lawsuits, so he never has (to our knowledge) physically abused an ashramite in the U.S. He has in both continents mentally abused his ashramites and followers. He is a natural for that type of abuse.

We will dedicate a whole blog post to all of the horrible abuses this man has created. Yes, he is SICK! SICK! SICK! He should be incarcerated until his violent and destructive behavior is cured.

Please save your comments about Nithyananda's violence so we can have them all on one post. We promise to do this in the next ten (10) days.

Jai Maa.

February 13, 2010 1:02 AM

 
At 2/18/2010 10:40 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

Ha ha Ha ha Ha ha, fools it will take time for you to understand the workings of the master.

First understand that you go to him with guilty conscience and with big ego that is your problem.

He can only help you if you have complete love in him and that love has to come out naturally and should be natural. He has no option but to help those people who have complete faith, devotion and love in him.

Looks like for most of you the time has not come yet.

What makes you think he needs so much money? Is he married? Does he have children? Does he have big desires except wearing those golden rudrakshyas? Don't you fools except that being in human bodies he also has some human attributes.

Do you fools think that you are the only ones that have right to have share of earthly pleasures and not him. Have you had loved him you would have excepted him with totality. I cannot say that is your fault or not but i can say time is not ripe for you yet.

I would have believed him if he even said he roamed the length and breadth of earth for 30 years on bare foot. If you find no connection with him i should suggest you accept it and move ahead and let other try for themselves instead of babbling all those nonsense here in the web.

I pity your foolishness and as of compassion for you all i tell that Only with total love and devotion to master will he have ability to illuminate your path.

Just trust your instincts that is he a true enlightened being or not? if he is than no other things are of concern and should make no significance. if he is not enlightened than even he renounces the total world he will be of no help to you. Later is your choice to make.

 
At 3/02/2010 1:26 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RvOPP2GrwUQ

 
At 3/02/2010 8:11 PM, Blogger Nathan said...

dear anonymous,

Did you see the enlightenment of Nithya --- ananda in sun news yesterday, how he is being enlightened by an actress in bed...

you are the real fool... i'm not saying... your guru has proved it in public braodcast...
atleaset now you should realize your position and awake...

 
At 3/02/2010 8:53 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

wow this blog is so silent now!

 
At 3/02/2010 8:57 PM, Blogger jody radzik said...

wow this blog is so silent now!

What more needs to be said? The video is all that is needed.

 
At 3/02/2010 10:20 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

The cat is out of the bag...!!! What a hypocrite of the first order! His own karma is finally catching up with him...!

 
At 3/02/2010 10:30 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

To the Anonymous At 2/18/2010 10:40 PM:

Hello, Bhaktananda!!

Now, with this new video are you still going to proclaim that we fools can not understand the workings of the master!!

You Bhaktananda, Medhananda, Sachitananda, Sadananda, Sevakananda, Sahajananda and other xyzAnanda all have to be stripped and taken on donkeys along with your Rajasekaran aka Swami Nithyananda (self proclaimed Paramahamsa) so that you stop your lies and know that your behavior is unacceptable to society and its welfare.

 
At 3/02/2010 10:56 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

Here You go Guruphiliac..

YOu are certainly Right and this Rotten Piece has been caught on the Camera

 
At 3/03/2010 1:30 AM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

How can people cheat in the name of God ..when they themselves preach so many big things about god..such a shameful incident. Its always wise not to follow any saints. Believe in yourself and follow the right path...

 
At 3/03/2010 2:38 AM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

Really i am hurt by the news which i saw in Sun TV.we need to beleive only thy self....

 
At 3/03/2010 3:22 AM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

He who preaches something, doesnt live by that. Here is the example.

 
At 3/03/2010 9:57 AM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

Its strange, we were great followers of him. Just stumbled at this site. He did have energy, we have a sick toddler who gets good medical care but beleived he could cure him. Though we were never close or integrated with the Ashram

Guess its an interesting age that we live in!

 
At 3/03/2010 3:12 PM, Anonymous toomuchtoofastgreedy said...

Though it is never easy to digest Swami's and ashramas in general, this guy had I believe very good discourses since he was very young. Even though he genuinely had the oratory skills and philosphical knowledge as a young kid, he did not have the system around him to nurture the right mentality needed as in a Sringeri Peetam or Kanchi peetam where the acharyas are just the next in line and so on.
This guy is the owner of the movement.He grew too fast. too much fame, too much money, too many disciples willing to take his abuses as blessings.... Like in Tenali movie.. "ellaam treatment"
slowly he started believing his own hype and thought he was above all. Because he had the power, the money, the connections at too young of an age and didnt know what to do with all that. must have developed into a real head case with a dictatorship mind. The business empire widened with many followers with money and people able to take care of websites, ashram programs, outreach items, different "darshan" options, vedic temples and so on.... he was the one god of the movement. He wanted to become like Puttaparthi Saibaba establishment. Alas, it has all caught up. There is not much recourse here. What we see in youtube might just be the tip of the iceberg. We dont know how much more SunTV didnt show and plans to release in VCD! I hope the vedic templeas where they do Nityananda puj are all converted to regular temples. Atleast he has funded building them :-) Thanks for the money!

 
At 3/03/2010 4:11 PM, Blogger thiyagarajan said...

I am god..... God is great.....
And No other god in this world....

 
At 3/03/2010 6:25 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

Nithyananda has powerful siddhis or yogic attainment. However, I also realized he is a businessman running big ruthless business exploiting his followers deceiving the public.

May be he is a fallen yogi of some sort?

The same is happening with Swami Kaleshwar, only that there is no Proof and Vidio jet.

 
At 3/03/2010 10:03 PM, Blogger Torpedo said...

This one might be a strange one as the discussion above says, but telecasting videos of private moments of any individual should be condemned.

Sex is one of man's essential natural needs. Swami or not, man needs sex. Nothing seems wrong to me. There are gurus who have wives. That doesn't mean they aren't enlightened beings. Again, as I said earlier, this one might be strange one since there have been complaints against him even before this scandal.

I am not familiar with him or his teachings. Him having sex with an actress does not mean that the stuff he preaches is wrong. The public is so weak. They just need a leader so they could do the easy job of following. This way, even if something goes wrong, they can simply blame the leader.

What they have to realize is that, it is them who is ultimately responsible for their journey. They need to gain different perspectives from different englightened individuals and travel in their own path seeking truth and peace.

Cheers,
Traveller

 
At 3/03/2010 10:07 PM, Blogger jody radzik said...

Nothing seems wrong to me.

Except when you consider the fact that he was claiming to be a sannyasin, wearing orange robes while he was having sex.

 
At 3/03/2010 11:54 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

Is that sex?
I thought its just hugging and kissing

 
At 3/04/2010 12:01 AM, Blogger jody radzik said...

Is that sex?

In one of the unedited tapes there is fellatio. That qualifies as sex in my book.

 
At 3/04/2010 3:43 AM, Blogger khaleel said...

man

you are a prophet!!

 
At 3/04/2010 4:20 AM, Blogger pksam said...

Most people land on a 'Guru's' lap for psychological, social or religious needs. It is highly unlikely that one who seeks a Guru as part of a spiritual pursuit will land up with a hoax.

Many would say they are seeking
'spirituality', but most do not have the slightest clue as to what Spirituality is? They confuse it with God, Peace, Love, Happiness, Morality, Virtue, Occult powers,
Social service and so on. For many it is merely an escape from
an unpleasant situation or responsibility. And, they wax
eloquent on the Absolute, the Ultimate, Soul, Enlightenment, Bliss, Liberation, Truth and so on with a certainity that is amusing and pathetic. No wonder they end up easy meat for tricksters.

The Spiritual path is the path to self-destruction. If a Guru offers it how many will take up on it? Most wouldn't, because they
seek only a safety valve, an escape-route or just plain
value-addition.

 
At 3/04/2010 6:17 AM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

// Torpedo said...

Sex is one of man's essential natural needs. Swami or not, man needs sex. Nothing seems wrong to me. There are gurus who have wives. //

There are guru's who had wife(s), but definitely not a Sanyasi...

A man who has quit all his relations will take the cadre of Sanyasi...

 
At 3/04/2010 1:07 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

wow, I cant believe this. i do agree with the people who say that he exudes a certain peaceful quality. Unfortunately this illusionary reality agains fools me. I looked to him as if he was an avatar. Like he was God himself. But the vedas also say that God and Man are one. So essentially He is God. You are God. I am God. Confusing huh?

I did some of the meditations that come from his organization. They work. They help me find peace and balance. I has always hesitant though. Why would a swami who has given up riches charge so much money for the knowledge to reach enlightenment. Should not the teaching of the Vedas be free of charge to all those who desire to see the Light?

Truth is free. Truth is perveading in every cell of my body. Truth is the leaves rustling in an Autumn Michigan. Truth is the wind caressing my face at the peack of the mountain. Truth is my every breath. Truth is Nature. Truth is free. I am deeply saddened that Nithyananda decieved his followers. My prayers go out to all those decsiples he has let down. I pray that they find the strength in them to continue on their path to Truth. He is not the Truth they are searching for. The Truth is already within them. They must start looking inward.

I feel decieved. I heard him speak a few times, and believed he was something Great. The only person I can trust is the God witihin me. He is someone I considered more than man. He was someone I who I thought earned to be a proper pronoun in every sentence - "He."

 
At 3/04/2010 1:48 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

Even Gurus who have a wife have often many Girlfriends...

So many Swamis are cheating and cheating and cheating...

 
At 3/04/2010 7:38 PM, Blogger Murali said...

Can someone list the laws he has broken?

For modern day swami's the teaching of morality in Veda's, Gita, Upanishad's etc.. is not enough. They need a stick - "LAW OF LAND" to keep them in line in addition to free will.
If compile this and create a website for these this wannebe swamis - maybe it will keep them in line. Maybe this will repair the damage caused to Sanatana Dharma caused by this swami's over the years and give back the honor and legitimacy of this wonderful art of life. Note this is what the pontiff's of Christianity and Islam are waiting to happen and making it happen. Lets not give them a chance. Lets be the tail that wags the dogs (swamis) and may a true Godly man emerge.

 
At 3/04/2010 10:25 PM, Blogger divya said...

As long as we have ignorant followers who wish to seek God outside them,

as long as we have naive followers who are willing to be lead by orange-robed kama - anandas,

As long as we idolise half-naked fakirs as walking-talking gods,

Sachdananda, premananda, miklananda, jimpananda, biklaramba, jimplananda, 'bum'pananda, zimpananda, sexananda, are all here to stay.!!

Long live Anandas!!!!!!!!

 
At 3/04/2010 11:14 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

These guys are not GOD's. GOD is real and only one. No one can take his place. GOD is King of Kings and Lord of Lords. He is the only one GOD Jesus Christ. Lived in this world with no SIN.

All who seeking GOD, just ask yourself what are you looking for. Learn a bit about Jesus and you will never have a single doubt about GOD, because you already found GOD and peace in your hearts. Trust me you will feel it.

 
At 3/04/2010 11:55 PM, Anonymous ramesh chandran said...

Guys.... after all he is a HUMAN.
Its our own people's fault to fall for the traps for so called Swamis.. Wake Up!!!!!!

 
At 3/05/2010 1:04 AM, Blogger divya said...

Hi guys,
I just recollect how true Nithyananda's words have come out..!
I'm just giving excerpts from his you tube lecture http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MLeVLc07Bpc here below:

OVER TO HIS YOUTUBE "DISCOURSE":

"If you are caught in this layer, you will never be able to get out of this layer..! nobody can save you nobody can save you!! you may take today's message - do not be stuck in that layer - anywhere you are stuck - ok! anywhere you are caught - ok..! nothing Wrong! not in THAT layer! that's what I CALL EVIL..! See, Ravana knows very clearly that Sita is his own daughter - but he sayss I'M NOT ABLE TO CONTROL!!! then wat happens? Even if you worship Shiva, Shiva CANT SAVE YOU..! He even built a huge temple in Triconamalee in Sri Lanka. The REASON FOR MY FIRST EXPERIENCE IS -

I NEVER HAD "THAT" THOUGHT IN MY INNER SPACE - If Annamalai Swamiji does, I will do - OVER! Nothing else!! That's ALL..! Anything that comes inside.. How will Annamalai Swamiji respond to that??? take THIS as the message.!

In any situation, remember! How swamiji (NITHYANANDA) will "BEHAVE!" Simply you will see "NEW DOOR OPENS!@@@!" THIS IS WAHT I CALL "LIVING ENLIGHTENMENT!"

THen, one more message - wen you behave as "I (NITHYANANDA) AM BEHAVING, YOU"ll HAVE whatever I am having. That's a promise from existence. BEcause I am not having anything for which I"M NOT QUALIFIED.

YOU understanD??? A Corporate Company may have something for which they are 'NOT QUALIFIED"! - that's why it is taken away.!!!! I"M NOT HAVING ANYTHING FOR WHICH I AM NOT QUALIFIED.!!!@@! I AM A SOLID BALL!!! I AM QUALIFIED!!! carry this one message..! LIVE LIKE THE "MASTER"!!!@@@!

HOW TRUE HE WAS...!!! VERY PROPHETIC OF YOU SWAMIGAL!!!

SWAMIGAL = MORNING! :-(
SWAMI + GAL = NIGHT!!!! :-))

LONG LIVE SWAMI+GAL!!!!!

 
At 3/05/2010 1:09 AM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

SWAMI AND FRIENDS...!

Once there lived a swami who studies in polytechnic. Then he got enlightened when he peeped through the keyhole of a bathroom! Immediately he founded a theory called "LIVING ENLIGHTENMENT!!!"

Then, SWAMIGAL BECAME SWAMI+GAL!!!

Our swami now changed his name to NITHYANANDAJIIIIIII!!!

NITHYANANDAJIIII NOW STARTED AN ASHRAM!!! Exclusive rooms for guys and gals according to their "DEVOTION"!!!

NOW SWAMI NITHYANANDAJI GOT HIS FIRST GIRL FRIEND - actress Ragasudha. (His first SAMADHI EXPERIENCE...!!)

After whoring with ragasudha for a year, SwAMI NITHYANANDAJI goT HIS SECOND SAmadhi experience - his best EVER -

And that is the STORY OF SWAMI AND FRIENDS..!

NARAYANA ! NARAYANA!!!!!

 
At 3/05/2010 1:36 AM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

At 3/03/2010 10:03 PM, Torpedo said...

// Torpedo said...

Sex is one of man's essential natural needs. Swami or not, man needs sex. Nothing seems wrong to me. There are gurus who have wives. That doesn't mean they aren't enlightened beings. //

Also remember this idoit Sanyasi.. having pleasure with the wife of other person - (the actress is married).

What do you mean by "enlightened beings", This Sanyasi Nithyananda doesn’t know that having sex before marriage is sin, and that to with wife of other person.

what a Sanyasi.. what a Nithyananda....

 
At 3/05/2010 10:17 AM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

In the complete video - Rajasekaran was actually guiding her hand to his privates - though he appeared uninterested initally.

It is the company you keep.

To an enlightened being there should be no favorites, especially when you know the background of the person.
Moreover he broke the time honored rule - do not consort with somebody else's wife.

 
At 3/05/2010 5:50 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

i cant care less about swamiji enjoying sex. it·s just ok to me. he looked lovingly and respectfully and not sadistic as seem to be his so hard critics. i love him and respect him very much and feel sorry about what these fools are doing.

 
At 3/05/2010 8:50 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

watch the way the lawyer and the Public relations rep run away unable to face the questions from the press

http://www.dinamalar.com/video_Inner.asp?news_id=1077

 
At 3/06/2010 8:34 AM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

Anonymous, you say, "I don't care about his sex life." But, he claims to be a perfect celibate, who has achieved nirvana. Now his fraud has been exposed. People don't lose your common sense and go after self-proclaimed enlightened Masters? For cheating and abusing others, he needs to be imprisoned.

 
At 3/06/2010 6:47 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

i·d never heard him claiming he was a·perfect celibate· but even if he did so: i just don·t care. i don·t feel myself cheated nor abused. i·m so happy for knowing him! i find his teachings inspiring and blissfull. i can·t believe someone can be so agresive to swamiji. i love him. i·m thankfull.

 
At 3/06/2010 7:11 PM, Blogger jody radzik said...

i·m so happy for knowing him! i find his teachings inspiring and blissfull

This is where I would lay into you with all my frustration over flimflamming gurus who use the folk theory of enlightenment to present themselves as more God than you. Thankfully, it's not my way anymore.

That said, this is either the work of a confederate seeking to repair Nithy's shattered public image, or the work of an incredibly naive devotee.

The point here isn't about Nithyananda's teachings, which, like that of most international franchise gurus, generally confirms to the essentials of Vedic-based ideology. The point is that he was LYING about the status of his sex life by wearing the orange robes of a sannyassi. Perhaps that doesn't mean anything to folks in India, but it certainly means a lot to myself. I do not wear those robes, and I touch the feet of anyone who does. Despite how much I have criticized Nithy, I would have touched his feet before this scandal. As it is now, I wouldn't. He's got to take off the orange if he wants to be messing around, and I would not blame or criticize him if he did want to mess around. Because it's not the fact he was messing around, it's the fact he was misleading people about it.

 
At 3/07/2010 12:00 AM, Blogger Manoj said...

Swamiji's first response is out on youtube (lifeblissfoundation)
Its wonderful. May truth reveal!

 
At 3/07/2010 12:36 AM, Blogger jody radzik said...

May truth reveal!

All that is revealed is that Nithy is in complete denial. He's hiding behind the sanskrit prayer and orange robes rather than coming clean about who he really is and what he has done.

 
At 3/07/2010 9:30 AM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

Hmmm..

I dont know when all these people will realize their follies.

Nithyananda and Premanandas of the world live dual lives one preaching others and others breaching what they themselves taught.

My view:
1. Have him declare all his assets and what is done using every penny
2. Give him a chance to defend himself, but once found unable to defend himself, shutdown the ashram and jail the fraud baba
3. Also, let the axe fall heavily on Ranjitha, if found guilty

My personal view:
None is above others. Everyone is equal. You dont need a swamiji to tell you about god.
I believe Nithyananda is indeed a fraud and that the video is very true.

 
At 3/07/2010 10:14 AM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

I find this amusing and moderately funny. If you believe that another guy is an incarnation of god, devote your attention, time and money to him and then find out that he is just another guy who enjoys sex and has normal feelings of lust for women, then you shouldn't blame him. Blame yourself for being so gullible. You are responsible for being such easy prey. Hordes of people like you elevated an ordinary guy into god. Don't blame the guy for doing things any normal human would do.

Self-proclaimed "swamis" like Rajneesh, Mahesh Yogi, Sathya Sai, Kanchi Sankaracharya and now Nithyananda (and countless others) have repeatedly shown that people will believe anything if you dress up in religious attire, chant this or that mantra and appear to be holy. All you need is some charisma, some religious background and a good support group to carry out the deception. People will fall for it -- educated and otherwise. This has happened before and will happen again. Until people embrace doubt.

I also find it incredibly stupid that people blame the woman/women for this "scandal" as though she seduced him and raped him. Get over it. So what, only men are entitled to have sexual feelings? She is not entitled to be sexually attracted to another person? Believers need to get off your high horse of self-righteousness and face reality. Men and women are equally entitled to sex, attraction and lust. This puritanical bullsh*t is one reason why such "swamis" exist in the first place.

 
At 3/07/2010 4:05 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

I have been to different meditation courses and tried to grasp as much as I can, one think I realized is that you give your positive energy to person who you think Guru/Swamy and give them power to rule on you. It is like you are charger and they are battery, that is how they get positive energy from the followers. This is based on Quantum physics, thoughts are form of energy.
If you want to realize the truth, then be with yourself, within yourself (don’t invest your good energy on others and make them powerful and let them rule on you) and search for the truth/contemplate and realize that you are your own creator. Just compare any behavior/character/incident in life with natural things that are happening in universe, you will realize truth. The truth of experiencing truth is - you don't need 2nd person to make you experience truth. Experience has always been within not from outside. Everyone has that seed of knowledge; just have to sprout it by giving your attention and with right quest within yourself.

 
At 3/07/2010 5:07 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

Keep safe distance from so called gurus, they are not what they say. If you see his image or statue bigger than god, he is definitely fraud. There are even more identities of fraud. e.g. If they ask for private discussion they are fraud. If they say they can solve your problem, they are fraud. If they or their chela promote as god, they are fraud. etc.

 
At 3/07/2010 9:20 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

To the followers who are stil blind to the the heinous crime of this ?guru (of what),
Will you still accept your swami if your mother, wife, sister or daughter, brother or son falls a victim for the Nithyam Anandam seeking ritual of your swami.
Please, do not lower the standards of hindism just like other religions. If a hindu has lost dharma, he is nothing but a rotting corpse.
Hinduism is an eternal religion because of the path of justice. In other religions if such a thing has happened, things would have been buried but be reminded the pride of Hinduism is that it will only stand in the path of truth. That is why I am grateful to God to be born as a hindu – I still could maintain my conscience and seek only truth and condemn evil. Be a true Hindu and listen to only GOD!
Do not feel that yi=ou are deserted, the true God is always with us. Just do not drop ur mind as this guy says, but keep it alive, your conscience alive, your dharma alive – u will reach God. But if u still believe he is going to give peace and mukti, at least do not talk that u r supporting to save hindusim. Hinduism has no place for adharma.
Well wisher of all!

 
At 3/07/2010 11:18 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

To all who feel he is not who he claims to be, are you enlightened?

I have benefited greatly from his teachings & am grateful for Nithyananda. With what has happened over the last week, I don't feel that there is enough to pass judgment conclusively either way. The media and people's opinions are just that. So is what his organization is saying. The only two people who know the truth are Nithyananda & the women in the video. When more evidence comes out from both sides and all the parties involved, we will be able to use our intuition and the evidence to come to a conclusion. Whatever decision you come to will be just right for your path.

I think one thing most devotees can agree on is that they have been positively transformed through his teachings permanently, and can take that with them, regardless of what happens. Throughout my path with him as my guru (and me "dropping my mind"), I have never been forced to do anything I didn't want to do...and I've become more blissful from his teachings. For that, I am grateful.

 
At 3/07/2010 11:24 PM, Blogger jody radzik said...

I've become more blissful from his teachings.

It could have been the same with any guru. He wasn't teaching anything different from them, and it was mostly by way of establishing a suggestion that it was already working. The neurological term is "priming."

 
At 3/08/2010 4:16 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

We should appreciate this blog owner, he captured everything long ago may be an year back.

 
At 3/08/2010 4:33 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

Here are a few things everyone should consider after this latest press conference:

1) Now they are neither confirming nor denying the tape? Nithyananda and his ashram have been continuously saying that the images were "morphed" by Lenin and are "graphics".

2) In this conference this guy said that Lenin didnt even get through 12th grade. So now are they saying that he is not intelligent enough to "morph" the video? They are flip flopping so badly that they are destroying their own credibility.

3) It seemed that this statement was also written using similar misdirection as Nithyananda does in his speeches. If you noticed, Sachitanana was trying to disprove the other accusations in order to disprove the video.. notice how he constantly goes back to those other accusations and the unacceptable "facts" he has given.

4) Regarding the death accusation, the 58 yr old Canadian's death is still suspicious because he fell out of a second story of a building! Its funny how Sachitananda could easily skim over that fact. Notice how Sachitananda called to attention his family's coronary heart disease history, when it has no relevance to his death. Also, obviously a post mortem report will show he fell a far distance to his death.. the mysterious question is how did he fall and what legitimate investigation did the police conduct afterwards. India is known for easily paying off police directly after an incident. That is what Lenin was referring to as mysterious.

5) Sachitananda again was using improper comparison to his brahmacharinis when he spoke of the 23 yr old alleged rape victim. Because his closest female ashramites showed their face in front of a camera, was he was implying that a traumatized rape victim should also be able to do the same? Nowhere in the world does a alleged rape victim like to be identified to the public. Also in most rape cases there is no solid evidence... if the ashram is denying a clear video of Nithyananda, you can imagine how they will treat anyone else who comes forward, especially in India. If Nithyananda has done this before I hope more people will come out just to add impact and force the justice system to act, since legally it will almost be impossible prosecute with the massive amount of secrecy and control in the organization. If you have listened to Nithyananda speak, you may have heard him repeatedly speak about how the logic of a legal system can go against showing the actual truth.. its ironic how now the organization is now hiding behind the law to avoid obvious truths.

6) Regarding the accusations of people being held against their will, it was another misdirection play. Obviously, families of many ashramites are very upset and concerned. Therefore, out of this concern, they have filed complaints with the police. As a result the facts Sachitananda gave about those ashramites wanting to stay are inconsequential.

After watching this press conference, it is very obvious that the organization is in really bad shape. The intention of the people behind the tape isnt as important as why this behavior was happening and how long has it been happening. It is also very obvious that they are only buying time to work some backroom deals to call into question the video.. ie getting a paid "specialist" to call into question a couple aspects of the video.

 
At 3/09/2010 2:20 AM, Anonymous stats? said...

how much time have any of the anti-Nithyananda bloggers spent with him and in the ashram? vs how much time the devotees have been around him? I'm just curious... also just how many anti-Nithyananda people are there are vs pro?

 
At 3/09/2010 10:09 AM, Blogger Ragin' said...

What fails me is why does anyone have a need to attain so-called spiritual enlightenment by paying somebody? If you had studied Hinduism, true enlightenment is attained only by awareness of the self. Giving someone claiming to be godman because "he took you to a deep trance-like meditative state" is foolishness. Any trained hypnotist can do that. The very definition of Paramahamsa is to have attained supreme enlightenment. How can someone who calls himself paramahamsa get money other than voluntary donations? To what use would materialistic chains be to an enlightened one?

Remember: “Who makes himself a sheep will be eaten by the wolves.”

 
At 3/09/2010 10:17 AM, Anonymous Sigmund said...

Thirty-Seven, Hua Hu Ching:

A superior person cares for the well-being of all things. He does this by accepting responsibility for the energy he manifests, both actively and in the subtle realm. Looking at a tree, he sees not an isolated event but root, leaves, trunk, water, soil and sun: each event related to the others, and "tree" arising out of their relatedness. Looking at himself or another, he sees the same thing. Trees and animals, humans and insects, flowers and birds: These are active images of the subtle energies that flow from the stars throughout the universe. Meeting and combining with each other and the elements of the earth, they give rise to all living things. The superior person understands this, and understands that his own energies play a part in it. Understanding these things, he respects the earth as her mother, the heavens as her father, and all living things as his brothers and sisters. Caring for them, he knows that he cares for himself. Giving to them, he knows that he gives to himself. At peace with them, he is always at peace with himself. (Lau Tse)

Twenty
The clairvoyant may see forms which are elsewhere, but he cannot see the formless. The telepathic may communicate directly with the mind of another, but he cannot communicate with one who has achieved no-mind. The telekinetic may move an object without touching it, but he cannot move the intangible. Such abilities have meaning only in the realm of duality. Therefore, they are meaningless. Within the Great Oneness, though there is no such thing as clairvoyance, telepathy, or telekinesis, all things are seen, all things understood, all things forever in their proper places. (Lau Tse)

Twenty-Four
Subtle awareness of the truth of the universe should not be regarded as an achievement. To think in terms of achieving it is to place it outside your own nature. This is erroneous and misleading. Your nature and the integral nature of the universe are one and the same: indescribable, but eternally present. Simply open yourself to this. (Lau Tse)

 
At 3/09/2010 3:05 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

Nakkeeran Nithyananda Sex Tape article Tamil Translation for the Cult Blogspot for this reader:

Anonymous said...
Hear the latest statements from Dharmananda / Lenin Karuppannan. Please publicise this so that the world can know this! Nithyananda can buy off Media and politicians but he cannot stop the voice of truth from reaching the people.

http://www.nakkheeran.in/users/frmMoreWebTv.aspx?WTV=493

Here is a translation of the interview in Tamil:
(sending this in parts as the whole thing is too big to fit into 1 comment)

Nakkeeran’s Interview of Dharmananda (9th, Mar, 2010)

Nakkeeran: Hello
Dharmananda: Hello. I am happy to deliver these truths to the world through Nakkeeran. To tell you exactly, in 2006 I first join Swami as his disciple. Before that in 2004 I attended his meditation program. After that I did many of his programs continuously, one after another. I became deeply interested and from 2006 Aug onwards I became his direct disciple. Until I left recently in Feb 2010 I was living in his ashram only. I was following his teachings and practicing them. I was there because I liked his teachings. The reason for this video is, last year in November, I started hearing many things about him from some people. I was shocked by what I heard, because people see him and we also see him only as god. But the information I heard was shocking, I don’t even know how to say it!
This video incident has happened before but there was no proof of it. How to tell the world about it? So many youngsters and women are coming in every day. There are some who have been affected, but they are unable to talk about this openly, because if they bring this in the open their personal family life will be affected negatively by it. Because of that fear none of this came to public view. If that mask has to be torn, this kind of video is needed as solid evidence. That is why this video was taken and released.

March 9, 2010 11:16 AM

 
At 3/09/2010 3:06 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

Anonymous said...
Nakkeeran’s Interview of Dharmananda (9th, Mar, 2010) - continued (part3)


N: There is an allegation that he was blackmailed with this video for getting some money.
D: No. This is entirely a false accusation spread by them. If I wanted money, then this news would not have come out at all. This accusation itself is wrong. If I wanted money I could have directly talked to them, I could have lived like a king. This news would not have come out at all.

N: How true are the scenes in this video? Nithyananda’s people have been continuously claiming that this is a forgery.
D: The original source CD, I have submitted to Tamilnadu police and government. Let their lab report become available. I am saying that this is definitely original. Let them prove that this is fake, then legally whatever punishment they give me, even if they give me death sentence, death by hanging, I am willing to accept it. I know this video is entirely true. It even has date and time on it.

N: There is an allegation that Ranjitha and you conspired together and created this video.
D: No. No.

N: There is also an allegation that you were accused in the Magnetic Therapy Bed case.
D: This is false accusation. In 2003 there was a company that was promoting Magnetic Therapy Bed. They had many lakhs of distributors. I was also one of the distributors who was cheated by that company. I was also a victim who lost money. There is no police complaint against me in that case. This is a false allegation meant to defame me and show me in bad light.

N: In the middle of all this, you said you were afraid for your life. Was the ashram such a place where you had to be concerned for your life?
D: Yes. Ashram is about 40 acres land. In that Swami stayed in approximately 2-3 acres land. In that area nobody can enter, even ashramites, disciples, no one can enter. Only those who are chosen by Swami can go into that area. It is a high security area. For example, you can even visit American President’s home, but it is very difficult to go into Swami’s quarters.

N: Will only specific people be allowed there?
D: Yes. Yes, definitely. Only those whom he chooses, ladies only will be allowed there.

N: Is that for doing service to him?
D: Yes. Only those who do service to him are allowed there.

N: Who selects them?
D: Swami. Only Swami selects them, no one else interferes in that.

N: After this video was aired what kind of feedback have you received?
D: Many friends and relatives although they could not contact me directly, they expressed that I have done a good thing. Many people from around the world, including some ashramites, feel happy that a person who has been fooling the society, a womanizer in the disguise of a Sannyasi wearing the kavi cloth, is exposed. Many emails and phone calls appreciating this have been received. People have been expressing a strong support through Nakkeeran and all other media also.

N: Thank you.

March 9, 2010 11:19 AM

 
At 3/09/2010 3:06 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

Anonymous said...
Nakkeeran’s Interview of Dharmananda (9th, Mar, 2010) - Continued

N: What did people tell you about how they were affected? You say women were affected. Was it physical?
D: Yes. Women have been abused through their body [sexual abuse]. The worst part of all this is, they are not even aware that they are being abused, to that extent they have been mesmerized. That is the sad news. “I am God. If you are with God, you will also achieve my state”, this is what he has told them and kept them mesmerized. Because of that, they don’t even think there is something wrong in this. They don’t even realize that they are a victim [of this abuse]. This is the problem. Only because some people mentioned it, even I came to know about it.

N: So he claims himself to be an incarnation of God?
D: Yes. “I am Krishna. If you are with me like the Gopikas, you will also achieve their state”, this is what he tells them and mesmerizes them to abuse them.

N: So he says this is a path to enlightenment?
D: Yes, he says that. He says this is a tantra technique, that’s what he makes them all believe. I was shocked to hear this and I realized that only if this is proved with some evidence people will believe what is going on. Even after giving all this evidence some people still don’t believe it. If I had said this with mere words, nobody would have believed me. That’s why I decided that I have to collect evidence for this. Legally whether this can be punished or not, only the police and government has to decide. Whatever is his true face, I have showed it [to the world]. Now its for the law to decide.

N: Is there any hidden motive for you to defame Nithyananda like this?
D: Definitely not! I don’t have any hidden motive or agenda for this. People must know the truth about who he is – this is my only intention. There are so many youngsters from Tamilnadu, not only Tamilnadu they come from all around the world – young men and more importantly young women; and in addition there are many families that also come and join the ashram. I do not want any more people to be affected like this, that is the only genuine good intention with which this was done. There is no other hidden motive or conspiracy behind this.

N: What is the reason for this video to be released so many days after it was shot?
D: Due to certain safety, security and legal reasons it took some time.

March 9, 2010 11:17 AM

 
At 3/09/2010 3:08 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

Anonymous said...
http://www.duniyalive.com/?p=107108

"Ranjitha comes forward; says it was her offering to Swami Nithyananda! "

Bangalore: Ranjitha comes forward; says it was her offering to Swami Nithyananda! Ranjitha, the hottest and latest sensation of the Ranjitha-Nityananda sex scam video, says that Swami is innocent.

ranjitha-comes-forward

What is shown in the video is her service and offering to her much-loved Swamiji. It is Swamiji who cured her prolonged panting trouble in just a single day.

While speaking to a bi weekly through a telephonic conversation, Ranjitha stated that “Media unnecessarily blow the issue. I know Swamiji for past few years and my association with him is transparent.”

She says further, “As a true devotee I offered my service like feeding food and massaging him regularly in his personal room. I used to stay with him during late hours but the inmates of the ashram also know this…”

She further stated that “I know my Swamiji. He is a great Athma and will come as a pure Athma soon…”

March 9, 2010 9:30 AM

 
At 3/09/2010 3:09 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

Well it looks like Ranjitha has admitted to giving herself as an offering and has done this on other occasions. I wonder how many other women gave him offerings? Also, it's kind of hard to keep claiming that the video is now "morphed" "graphics". As this blog has nicely been reporting, there have been many other women who have been with swami for hours at a time at night just like Ranjitha. I hope everyone will now come out if they aren't too scared or still brainwashed.

 
At 3/09/2010 3:13 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

Please write the Home Minister of Karnataka about what you know about Nithyananda. Please ....this is one time we can probably get the Indian Government to do something about him. He has harm lots of devout Indians and Westerners.

Home Minister of Karnataka Govt. blogspot and email address:

Email: vsacharya@gmail.com

http://drvsacharya.blogspot.com/2008/05/know-dr-v-s-acharya-bio-data.html

People, please, please, protest and force Karnataka Govt. and Indian Govt. to put this filthy sex addict women abusing in the name of God Nithyananda in jail for 2 life terms.

Please email the Karnataka Govt. Home Minister as much specific and relevant information all of you have.

Please protest otherwise Govt. will only protect Bad and Wicked people, and nobody cares about common people and innocent people.

Please don't think this is somebody else problem, today it is somebody else daughter, wife, sister, mother, tomorrow it can be anyone of us daughter, wife, sister, mother.

Even if you were Nithy's victim, please speak up so that others are not victim in the future to this confidence trickster. Please remember that even least amount of good done for welfare others will remove great fear in us and make us fearless.

 
At 3/10/2010 8:01 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

Swami Nithyananda’s Sex Tapes Should Not Be Aired, Petition Filed In Karnataka High Court

In the meanwhile, advocate and former President of the Advocates’ Association, KN Subba Reddy has filed a petition in the Karnataka High court to restrict TV channels from airing the controversial sex tapes that show ‘Godman’ Nithyananda indulging in sexual activitiesReddy argues that the sex tapes have not only tainted the image of all spiritual leaders but it is also likely to mislead children and teenagers. He said the tapes had embarrassed viewers enough so it should not be aired anymore

These tapes should be continued to be aired for the very same reasons
1. As it will deter such dangerous “swamis’ from emerging and to protect the genuine spiritual/religious leaders.
2. It is this guy’s criminal act that has tainted and not the tape.
3. The true spiritual gurus’ name could never be tainted. Only such group should be worried of being caught on erring.
4. It did not mislead the children and teenagers but did rightly lead them in understanding the true nature of this exploiter. The knowledge of distinguishing a true gem from an evil will protect them as the children and teenagers are very gullible for such mesmerizing orators who constantly prey upon victims.
5. The viewers are embarrassed by this scoundrel’s act and deceit and not because of the tapes. They are embarrassed for having trusted and recommending this “Porno”hamsa guru to others. This fake guru and his immediate close aides (who are well aware of his nefarious activities but have no remorse for their wrong deeds) are the ones who have to be embarrassed and scared.
6. Ranjitha has stated that she did was offering her services for her guru as a devotee – see how she is brainwashed by this evil guru that this is the type of services that is expected from devotees and is totally al right.. Would you accept if your wife or daughter is doing this type of services to this guru. Obnoxious & disgusting soul. Shun him like a plague from this society.
7. If these tapes (aka Lord Shiva’s third eye) had not been aired the gullible public would not have known about this devil that is in the divine garbs of a sanyasi.
8. For a good cause we have to put up with some inconveniences, so that this nexus would not continue with all convenience, to victimize people emotionally, spiritually, sexually, physically and financially and wreck the lives of trusting devotees.
9. His followers who had attended his meeting would have notice (In Northern America, do not know about India), that he frequently gives a tight brief hug to girl devotees. I am sure that those who had seen this would agree with me with this “red flag” gesture.
Well wisher of hindus /others

 
At 3/11/2010 12:26 AM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

Well if Nithyananda claims he is Krishna etc. he better have something really new and deep to offer to the world ... if not, he better prepare himself for public ridicule -- who doesnt want a guru that advocates having sex ? Is Nithyananda becoming a Osho ? No problem at all, Krishna himself was not paranoid about sex etc. However, what is funny is that people dont realize that Nithyanand is just a guide for "emotional tourism" of enlightenment . Who cares what he does otherwise ?? Of course he has violated social norms, and if he is intelligent enough he can get out of this ..

 
At 3/11/2010 8:41 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

World, please think, it is not only this swamiji, he has his chamchas, like Nithya Sachidananda, Gopal Sheelum (Both are from US) who have left their big career in executive position, and joined him in minting money, why do you think someone will do this?? These people all part of this scandal, check out other Doc's and other educated people who are around him all the time...they are all part of this. According to Ranjita they know all this, why they did not speak on this issue, Just because they were minting big money. Wake up world. Get hold of them too..

 
At 3/12/2010 9:58 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

1. I have seen so many comments discussing - what is really immoral about having a sexual relationship with another man's wife. Here's my take on it:
First and foremost people are forgetting that this is not the only woman he has molested. There any MANY other man's wifes that he has abused. There are SO many victims of Nithyananda inside and outside of the the organization. How many of these girls is he plannign to marry? All of them! And then live like a polygamist. Wow! thats a great step from being a brahmachari.

2. 'consenting' adults - That again is a big misnomer when a cult like Nithyananda is in question. The press, media, police - none of these are able to understand that this is a cult. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mind_control From link above. these are the tactics cult uses:sleep deprivation, partial sensory deprivation, psychological harassment, inculcation of guilt and group social pressure. etc etc. The idea of 'consenting' adults changes when cult is in question. Ranjitha and others have been brain-washed into doing the sexual activities as is seen in the video.

3. As far as feeling sympathy for Ranjitha and others is concerned. Its for you to decide. If you want to blame a brainwashed victim for the act.

4. There are many girls especially in Bidadi who are under-age and uneducated too. He just makes them believe he is krishna and forces them to behave as his gopikas.

5. Nithyananda calls it "experiments that society did not agree with". So Nithyananda, you are agreeing it was YOU in the video. You are also agreeing that you DID something that the society does not agree ith. "Experiments", I loathe at your choice of words. What book did you get this experiments from - that Kamasutra and what did you think your ashram was - a Brothel!

6. Rajiv Malhotra says no-one asked the western devotees if they still support Nithyananda and they replied -no one asked us. Rajiv Malhotra, I am telling you there are so many of us who have left the foundation. Why has the press not come to us to ask why we did? We too have lived in close proximity with Nithyananda - both men and women. Forget the press, why dont you come and talk to us and we will tell you the inside stories and our "experiences" with nithyananda. Nithyananda's foundations PR is not trianed, but you are a trained man in researching. Why are you not seeing the other side of the story.

7. "nothing illegal between 2 people with clothes on". The clothes were NOT ON in exactly the needed portion. Rajiv Malhotra, what other proof do you need. You need a blue film from Nithyananda to believe the activites that could have gone by after the lights were shut. "clothes on". sexual relationship is not just the intercourse. The kissing, smooching and the oral - everything is sexual.

Go get a good dictionary to see the meaning of words and get a brain too to understand the meaning of unwritten words and unshown scenes.

 
At 3/13/2010 12:58 AM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

Part 2
Legal challenges in Nithyananda case

Swamy can be tried under section 508 because Swamy expected sexual favors. Devotee was scared of divine displeasure if sexual offering was not done to Swamy. In the video it does not look like Nithyananda was trying to prevent Ranjitha from offering sex.

Let us say Swamy says he never asked for sex but just accepted Ranjitha’s unconditional offer. Can swamy go scot free now?
Negative. Swamy can be booked for adultery under section 497. What does section 497 say?

Section 497. Adultery

Whoever has sexual intercourse with a person who is and whom he knows or has reason to believe to be the wife of another man, without the consent or connivance of that man, such sexual intercourse not amounting to the offence of rap, is guilty of the offence of adultery, and shall be punished with imprisonment of either description for a term which may extend to five years, or with fine, or with both. In such case the wife shall be punishable as an abettor.

Ranjitha categorically denied that she was a divorcee and claimed to be wife of some army officer in one of the interviews. If this is so section 497 applies here and there is a water tight case against both Swamy and Ranjitha. Police should have registered a case of adultery immediately and sought arrest of Swamy.

Once section 497 is applied against both Swamy and Ranjitha prosecutors get an upper hand . That is when we should invoke section 498.

Section 498. Enticing or taking away or detaining with criminal intent a married woman

Whoever takes or entices away any woman who is and whom he knows or has reason to believe to be the wife of any other man, form that man, or from any person having the care of her on behalf of that man, with intent that she may have illicit intercourse with any person, or conceals or detains with that intent any such woman, shall be punished with imprisonment of either description for a term which may extend to two years, or with fine, or with both.

If fear of section 497 can make Ranjitha come out of influence of her tormentor swamy, she can testify and we will have even stronger case against swamy under section 498.

I heard police started looking for swamy. I presume that it is because of section 497. However swamy went missing and claimed through his sisyas that he was attending Kumbha Mela. However during interview with Rajiv Malhotra it became clear that swamy was not in Kumbha Mela. Kumbha Mela organizers too have banned Swamy from entering Kumbha Mela. So Swamy lied about his whereabouts when Police was looking for him.
Now let us see what section 172 says here.

Section 172. Absconding to avoid service of summons or other proceeding

Whoever absconds in order to avoid being served with a summons, notice or order, proceeding form any public servant legally competent, as such public servant, to issue such summons, notice or order, shall be punished with simple imprisonment for a term which may extend to one month, or with fine which may extend to five hundred rupees, or with both;

or, if the summons or notice or order is to attend in person or by agent, or to 1[produce a document or an electronic record in a Court of Justisce], with simple imprisonment for a term which may extend to six month, or with fine which may extend to five hundred rupees, or with both;

So Nithyananda can also be booked for absconding after his sex tape became public.

So far we studied what laws can be used to book Nithyananda for his performance on video tape.
Swamy and his chelas dare not say that what they did was legal.

I will write in another post on other clauses in IPC and other Indian laws which Swamy and his trust seem to have broken in India and elsewhere.

Let us not rest till Nithyananda goes to jailhouse. This is a turning point for my beloved country.
Let us free India from tyranny of all these Godmen.

 
At 3/13/2010 12:58 AM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

Legal challenges in Nithyananda's case at:
http://nadunudi.wordpress.com/2010/03/13/legal-challenges-in-nithyananda-case/
Part 1

There is a misconception in Nithyananda’s devotees that whatever their guru did was legal.
Nithyananda too seem to suffer from same belief.

This blog post lists out various offences committed by Nithyananda in legal parlance.

First, Nithyananda had sex with a married woman. Though the sex is consensual there are sections in Indian Penal code that can be invoked against Nithyananda.

Let us read section 493 of Indian Penal Code

Section 493. Cohabitation caused by a man deceitfully inducing a belief of lawful marriage

Every man who by deceit causes any woman who is not lawfully married to him to believe that she is lawfully married to him and to cohabit or have sexual intercourse with him in that belief, shall be punished with imprisonment of either description for a term which may extend to ten years, and shall also be liable to fine.

This section can be invoked if Ranjitha testifies that Swamy made her believe that they were in wedlock. However Ranjitha may be currently suffering from Stockholm syndrome and hence may not testify. NGOs should reach Ranjitha and counsel her.
Swamy may be aware of this and hence trying to keep Ranjitha in good humor by not denying that he had sex with Ranjitha. As long as Swamy continues to keep Ranjitha in good humor Swamy is saved from section 493. However accepting his sex with Ranjitha , Nithyananda is hurting his finances. This very act is considered immoral by millions of Hindus ( what Nithyananda calls as society) and donations to Ashram will dry up. So Nithyananda sooner or later is going to split up with Ranjitha. But this split is going to cause further damage to Swamy , because in the event of a split Ranjitha can get swamy jailed for ten years for having sex with her!!!. It is an interesting situation. Swamy has a Hobson’s choice.

At the same time, press has reported that Ranjitha claimed that sex was her offering to swamy because swamy cured her of asthama. This is interesting. Asthama attacks can be brutal and sometime fatal. If swamy cured her of asthama in return for sexual favors we can invoke section 508 against swamy.
let us see what section 508 says

Section 508. Act caused by inducing person to believe that he will be rendered an object of the Divine displeasure

Whoever voluntarily causes or attempts to cause any person to do anything which that person is not legally bound to do, or to omit to do anything which he is legally entitled to do, by inducing or attempting to induce that person to believe that he or any person in whom he is interested will become or will be rendered by some act of the offender an object of Divine displeasure if he does not do the thing which it is the object of the offender to cause him to do, or if he does the thing which it is the object of the offender to cause him to omit, shall be punished with imprisonment of either description for a tem which may extend to one year, or with fine, or with both.

 
At 3/13/2010 9:15 AM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

The future of the happliy married Nithya Swami and all the happyily remarried orange clowns:

After he comes back from his hiding our Taliban Swami will have a big bash in one of the five star hotel (Leela Kempenski) in Bangalore. Where he will announce that he is the reincarnation of Krishna-Fakeananda and has marrired his Rukmany-ladies and is proudly announcing it to the world.

He will definetly add that there are more wives he will be taking in the future since Lord Krishna-Fakeananda did not stop wth one.

He will be elegently dressed in Rs 2 Lakh Kudtha and will be sitting on the Golden throne with Rukmany-ladies(Ranjitha) on his lap. All the VIP's will be attending the big bash with WINE Whiskey and Dancing Sevakis.

Now the Orange Clowns will get really jeaolous of this whole situation and go back crawling like dogs to their MASTER and express their frustration about them selves.
Lord Nithya Krishna-Fakeananda will ask 'What Do you want?' The will will look at him like sex starved dogs and say "What about us Master? WE WANT SEX TOO."

Lord Nithya Krishna-Fakeananda will grant their boon with 0 degree vision and rename his ashram NITHYA LEELA SEXALAYA.

Thus the Saga of the Nithy Leela Sexalaya will continue in Kali yuga in Bangalore.

More devotees will come from all over the world and life will be lot more better for Nithya and his Goons

 
At 3/13/2010 10:17 AM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

Nithyananda swami certainly has lot of talents and lot of convincing abilities. He has done lot of good to many people. But he does not qualify to be a swami. ( (Swami is the one who has given up all wordly needs naturally)
He seems to have lot of urges and desires.He can be a good public person with motivating speaker and conduct courses and earn lot of money and get married and be rich, what is wrong with that? He can declare all his desires and give up the double standard life.If he does that to his surprise he will do well and truly help lot more people.
This approach needs humility and can this person have this?
Put it a nut-shell "Honesty"

 
At 3/13/2010 10:38 AM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

It is not media's fault. It is culprit act of this person. Dishonesty,selfishness and doble standard of lifel. Let people not fall for these type of people sho call themselvs to be "Swamis".

 
At 3/13/2010 1:29 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

Scammiji Nithyananda claims what he was doing in Sex video was "experimenting"

Rakasekaran (aka Nithyananda) has not quit delusions yet. He said in the video that he will stop his experimenting.

I want to give my opinion that. Here he is not referring to his sex activities as his experiments. He intended all the other social experiments such as keeping himself above all gods of Hinduism, making people do his murti puja, making people do his nama japa, giving sanyasa (though fake and various kinds of sanyasa), separating families so that they can be enslaved in the name of enlightenment, taking young children away from parents and engage them in cult activities by branding them as 'Swamiji's children', and making them as fit for future propagation only, building grand things on his name, do every thing as 'Nithya Grass Cutting', 'Nithya toilet cleaning', Nithya Brothels', 'Nithya Cooking Centers' etc. Topple other gurus and be # 1 so that his image will be above other humble saints. Destroying all south India swamis by giving them just flower garlands and also Doctorates etc. just about every thing he was devising , so that he will be in news. These were the experiments.

His Sex activities were beyond experiments. It was Krishna and Gopika leelas, though he could not do openly as his goal to become more holy than Adi Sankara will be rejected by people.

He and his followers are ignorant idiots to take Rajasekaran and Adi Sankara names in one sentence! Just that simple.

 
At 3/13/2010 1:31 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

Well, In Hinduism, as we age, we start focusing on spirituality as the assured step towards God. We believe in eternal happiness being with God after one's death (not eternal bliss with 72 virgins). We start giving less importance for sex. This is about a grahastha (family man/woman)

But for a sanyasi there is no place for sex. This is the path they had willfully chosen and declared to the followers. So Nithyananda has cheated the followers as well as the Almighty God.

Apart from that, the nexus (all the sub-anandas) is very dangerous and somehow attract people (by forceful propaganda - u would had noticed the followers in loud tones recommend this guru to others - like a pyramid chain), get lots of $$$ (unaccounted) and make the followers leave their studies/work/family who end up in a doped addict like state. They keep meditating, but not focus on God, but on Nithyanada during the meditation. This way, the already mesmerized followers, cause further self-infliction and become dependent on him. They feel peaceful only when with him. In true meditation/yoga, the focus is on God and would guarantee 24/7 happiness and cheer. Also, one ends up in tears and depression during his speeches. Dangerous to the society - destroy family values (encourages kids to disobey their parents and desert them).

But let him not be punished like saudi law, there only the female would be punished even if a helpless 12 year old girl is raped. Punishment depends on whether he is a muslim/non-muslim, shia/sunni, rich/poor, nationality etc. Even the many muslims who want to stand by the truth and God cannot voice for God fearing a “fatwa” from the evil doers, but suffer in silence for going against God (Allah as they call).

But we have the freedom to stand by the side of God. Let this evil Nithyananda be punished based on the hindu dharma (only Hinduism values dharma - others stand accomplice for any such heinous acts in the name of unity and bring shame to their own religion).

well wisher (not a DMK person, but belong to the sect hated by them)

 
At 3/13/2010 1:33 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

Nithyananda proclaimd many times that he is God. So whu should he have humility Anon?

 

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