Thursday, February 09, 2006

Sri Sri Meets The Babaster, May Have The Bomb Now

File under: The Siddhi of PR and Hands Where They Don't Belong

Yesterday the great Himalaya mountains trembled under the combined weight of two of India's biggest living gurus, Sri Sri Ravi Shankar and Sathya Sai Baba. While not much has been reported about the meeting, we believe the combined force of their shakti must have been a spectacle to behold, for those who imagine such things exist.

But the whole thing kinda looked more like the appearance of one rock star at the concert of another:
Today evening bhajans started at 5.00 pm. At 5.20 pm Pundit Ravi Shankar of the Art of Living fame walked into the VIP enclosure followed by his entourage. Sai Baba walked in at 5.25 pm, held on the railings and gave blessings for 5 mins and sat down. Bhajans continued till 5.50 pm, Swami took aarathi standing up the whole duration, giving blessings and just before he left he gave blessings 6 times with his Abhaya Hastam and some ladies were so touched that they wept.
A VIP section, crying groupies and the dispensation of blessings seem more reminiscent of a U2 concert than the creepy Babaster's daily appearance.

We imagine the gurus having some difficulty keeping their eyeball lightning in check while in each others' presence. Who knows who would have prevailed had the situation deteriorated. But the Babaster had better watch out over the long run. Sri Sri is apparently training the Indian Army in his Art of Living yoga techniques. As much eyeball lightning as Sai Baba may be able to muster aside, it probably can't compete with the AK-47s and light artillery the Army possesses, not to mention their nuclear capacity.

It certainly gives Sri Sri the one up on every other guru in India. It's a situation we will continue to monitor. As we love to say... developing.

44 Comments:

At 2/10/2006 6:52 AM, Blogger dontbullme said...

Hey guru,

Have you heard of Zakir Naik and ravi shankar debate? Dude, Zakir nailed Ravi Shankar. I dont know why this ravi shankar wants to debate. He only knows talking about love. And Ravi Shankar himself agreed that he made lot of mistakes in his book about Islam. You know what the reason he gave? "Book was written in a HURRY". very funny. he must have written that book as thesis for his course at Mahesh.

One more thing..media wrote several articles on this debate but they never mentioned about this book mistakes. one thing is sure, india will support these hindu gurus until muslims are there in the country.

Ravi shankar is coming to rediff chat on 13th. I posted several controversial questions. lets see if rediff will bring them up.

 
At 2/11/2006 1:09 PM, Blogger facedog said...

This Naik is just an ordinary scholar who thinks that book knowledge and the ability to entertain a crowd is the same thing as knowing God. I'm not big on Sri Sri but I once saw him allow several represenatives from the TM group make a public presentation of his supposed betrayals of Maharishi. It was embarrassing for all concerned, but the man took it right on the chin and kept going. Sri Sri showed some emotion then too, of sorrow, which impressed me. He's not all bad and probably not any more full of shit than dontbullme is.

 
At 2/11/2006 5:24 PM, Blogger dontbullme said...

Naik is alteast an ordinary scholar but this Sri Sri is a dumbass writer.

facedog, ur name reminds me of a face with full of dogshit...dont lick it...wash it and go read the book written by dumbass ravi shankar - "Hinduism and Islam, the Common Thread". After you read that book, u will again feel that your face is full of shit.

Thats the power of Ravi Shankar. Read his comments about his own book.

"Do you understand what I'm saying? Drop that book, no more discussions on that book. I myself know there are mistakes. That is why I did not print second copy. It is not scholarly book at all. "

You ask me what is the mistake?
Read the second page.
http://www.thetruecall.com/downloads/
Transcript/QnA.PDF

 
At 2/11/2006 6:40 PM, Blogger jody said...

Now, now boys. Keep it civil, or I'm going to have to turn on moderation.

 
At 2/11/2006 7:42 PM, Blogger facedog said...

This is my point. One little jab and dontbullme blows chunks. Sri Sri can take a shot to the gut and hardly react. I still think dontbullme is just jealous about Sri Sri's car and money.

 
At 2/11/2006 10:11 PM, Blogger dontbullme said...

what to do facedog...my name says it all..u know what i mean.

So u been reading my posts. Thats good. That should have enlightened you. Why r u still supporting Sri Sri? Beats me!

 
At 2/12/2006 10:17 AM, Blogger facedog said...

dontbullme said

"Why r u still supporting Sri Sri? Beats me!"

..............

I in no way support Sri Sri. I just think he is not as bad as you claim. Next to this professional religious scholar ,Naik, he looks good. I would rather have a better quality attack on Sri Sri than what I've seen so far.

 
At 2/12/2006 11:25 AM, Blogger dontbullme said...

whats better than exposing mistakes in a book written on a religions topic. Full of lies dude....And what a lame excuse by Sri Sri - "Book is written in a hurry". He says that we need to understand his intentions behind the book. So why doesn't he write the intentions itself in the book. Why beat around the bush.

 
At 2/12/2006 12:33 PM, Blogger facedog said...

I never have and never will read a book by Sri Sri. But I am willing to bet his intentions are not to convert everyone to Hinduism, as is the scholar of Islam, which is the worst of the world's stinking religions.

Notice that the man has admitted a mistake, which takes him out of the worst circle of hellish gurus who claim not to make mistakes.

 
At 2/12/2006 5:22 PM, Blogger dontbullme said...

dude..the point is how did he come out of that mistake? why didn't he come out and correct this before? Thats a book written in 2002. What is he doing these four years? Was he worried that people will not read his books after these mistakes?

And I never said he is trying to convert people to Hindus. FYI, he even mentioned that some words in Hinduism are derived from Islam.

So you never read his books and also the transcripts of the debate and you came here supporting Sri Sri. Nice.

FYI...I did the basic AOL course, read 3 of his books and even went to see him once.

 
At 2/13/2006 8:04 AM, Blogger facedog said...

How do you deal with your mistakes, dontbullme? You are saying that Sri Sri is an ordinary guy pretending to be a guru, so why are you holding him to a higher standard than yourself?

One little jab and you start frothing at the mouth. He does a whole lot better than you do.

I also took his course and found his breathing techniques useful but nothing new. It is "rebirthing" while sitting up. So I feel he is somewhat deceptive by claiming to offer something unique. I didn't like the touchy-feely aspect either. But that doesn't put him on the same level as this Kalki oneness fellow who is raking in money just before the world ends.

 
At 2/13/2006 11:57 AM, Blogger ontheotherhand said...

Facedog,

Sri sri is far far worse than you can imagine. I'm sure he "took it on the chin" vis a vis MMY because he knew otherwise these people would smear him with the truth anyway. So why not appear to be magnanimous. This guy (Sri sri) is so weak, that he labels anyone close to him who dares to leave without his "permission" as "disturbed" or "unstable" or "a thief in another life" or "oversexed". You name it, he's flung it around, all the while sitting with a beatific smile saying things like "of course I wish so and so well in this life they've sadly chosen to live without my blessings....." etc. He's a trip. If you have not gotten that close, don't. You won't regret it.

I find it highly appropriate that he is now meeting with Sai Baba. They have more in common (disgustingly) than anyone on this post obviously can imagine!

 
At 2/13/2006 12:59 PM, Blogger facedog said...

OK ontheotherhand,

I'll take this information from you because you are more knowledgable than dontbullme and less inflammatory. I never considered going any further with the guy. Anyone who visits sai baba to kiss his toe ring, knowing that he is a serial pedophile, is scum.
Thanks for letting me know.

 
At 2/13/2006 3:01 PM, Blogger dontbullme said...

facedog, don't lie dude...if u have done that course, u would have read atleast one of his books. But u said u never read his books. So Period.

And how do I deal with my mistakes? Dude this blog is about gurus. If u consider me guru, then i will tell u an answer.

And people call him, HIS HOLINESS SRI SRI RAVISHANKAR. Do you have any idea what "holy" means? I don't think he deserves that title.

ontheotherhand, nice explanation dude. It seems facedog wont understand things unless he is spoonfeeded.

 
At 2/13/2006 5:27 PM, Blogger facedog said...

Dear dontbullme,

FYI I am a little hesitant to believe the worse about someone else, especially someone that people I know love and admire. So I need a little more than the word of a blow hard to convince me. My intuition tells me that ontheotherhand has first person experience of Sri Sri. He's not just someone who took a weekend course and got mad cause he couldn't get enlightened or laid. Sounds like he has also had experience with Sri Sri's guru, MMY. His words were thoughtful and not full of egotistical spewings, like your own. You strike me as being young and pissy and that's about all.

Good luck dontbullme

 
At 2/13/2006 5:36 PM, Blogger facedog said...

PS dontbullme

I did his course 15 years ago, just about the time you stopped going dirty in your diappers...or maybe not.

 
At 2/13/2006 9:04 PM, Blogger dontbullme said...

Hmmm..you took his course 15 years back but you didnt get a chance to read his books. Unbe-lie-vable.

Atleast did you read the trascript of the debate? Do your homework before coming to a debate. Hmmm anyways..I should have told this when you were changing my dirty diapers. My bad.

Well if you love and admire sri sri, take my egotistical comments right on the chin and keep going dude. That will impress jody, me and ontheotherhand.

Grow up mentally dude...not physically...

 
At 2/14/2006 7:29 AM, Blogger ontheotherhand said...

Facedog,

It's good to be skeptical about people's bashing of others. Your experience with Ravi Shankar is not different from many many others, in that you had a nice course, experienced, probably, some energetic feeling from the breathing and even the knowledge portion of the weekend. However, your statement that you hesitate to believe the worst of someone else when people you know and love respect him, etc., bears some scrutiny. I'm sure people said the same thing about Hitler and other despots who billed themselves as saviors of the world. Their friends were following him, so he must be great. Many people follow Ravi Shankar. They follow him blindly, knowing very little about him except the sometimes blissful feeling that can come in his presence. Where that comes from, who knows, and I frankly don't care. Once I privately questioned him how that feeling was any different from a drug, since it needed repeat contact over and over and over again with him. I told him that drugs do the same thing, often without doing nearly as much damage to one's life! (I had watched many successful people throw their careers away for him and become destitute, like drug addicts, and never gain anything except that poverty and lack of self-respect that comes from slavery to a "guru".) He was dumbfounded with my question. He sat helplessly and changed the subject. Questions like these often threw him. In terms of his being all bad -- I don't believe anyone is all bad or all good. I believe that Guru is a principle, (Tattva) as opposed to a person. I also believe that this principle can flow through any number of people or things, depending on the time, place and person seeking Truth. When I first met Ravi Shankar, in spite of my immediate intuitive feelings to get away from him, I stuck around, because that Guru Principle seemed to be happening around him. And in spite of my unpleasant discoveries of him over time, I stayed because of that first experience. It's common, I think. People get hooked. Your friends who follow him are probably totally innocent about him and you may as well let them remain so unless they start throwing it all away for him. Some people have definitely benefited from him somehow. I did by learning just how I didn't want to be and what type of guru I definitely didn't want.

Acid test? For me it is going to someone billed as a teacher and asking intently inside (to God, if you will) to guide me and not be fooled by some tricks of consciousness that the teacher present might have, but to only stay if real Knowledge is possible there to any extent. I have found this to be helpful in my continuing search for Truth. Also, when a teacher is questioned, if they evade the question, or put others down in public, making a joke of them in spite of sincerity, I'd be careful. Just persist with your sincere questions, and you can know who is for you and who is not.

I feel for all the people who have been hurt by so many "gurus" and who have become bitter and poisoned to any type of seeking. Fortunately, even though I was shocked and devastated by Ravi Shankar's treatment of me, I didn't get overcome by those things. That's a blessing, imo.

Good luck to you, facedog. Keep looking!

Don't you just love Jody's humor? He makes me laugh. I don't believe he hates gurus at all, but just puts some fun in all this serious stuff. I love this blog.

 
At 2/14/2006 7:49 AM, Blogger facedog said...

thanks, ontheotherhand

 
At 2/15/2006 2:38 PM, Blogger ontheotherhand said...

And........Let's beat this horse right to death, okay? Here is part of a page of Sri Sri's "Biography" on an official site: His Holiness Sri Sri Ravi Shankar

Born in 1956 in Papanasam, India, His Holiness Sri Sri Ravi Shankar studied with many renowned spiritual masters and became a scholar of Vedic Literature. By the age of seventeen, he obtained an Advanced Degree in Modern Physics.

In addition to Ved Vignan Mahavidyapeeth, His Holiness Sri Sri Ravi Shankar is also the founder of the Art of Living Foundation and the International Association for Human Values. Through his activities, he has inspired a global phenomenon of caring, sharing and service which has spread to over 144 countries across the globe. The programmes and service activities inspired by His Holiness have benefitted over 20 million people across the globe.

His Holiness Sri Sri Ravi Shankar travels to over 35 countries every year, to reinforce the message that all religions and the great spiritual traditions share common goals and values. His simple message of love, practical wisdom and service encourages harmony, and teaches everyone to follow their chosen religious or spiritual path while honoring the path of others. Those who have listened to him acknowledge the universal inclusiveness of his appeal.

Now -- here's the problem. He never finished college at all, much less obtaining "an advanced degree in Physics..." He was an electrical engineering student, I know some of his classmates from Bangalore (his family moved to Bangalore when their house was supposedly washed away in Tamil Nadu -- who knows, that's what he told me), and they said he dropped out at 17, before really starting college. On any one of the other websites listed in the above, you will find various claims -- that he was born in Banglore, for instance. Not true. He was from an ordinary struggling family. His father repaired "lorries" (trucks) for a living for some time, before starting a chit scheme (like a banking scheme) and getting into trouble with that. Ravi saved the family by making plenty of money in the guru business. This is not fantasy, but hard, cold fact. What I find difficult to believe is that the above is posted on an "official" site, and there are plenty of people in Bangalore who know he never went to college, and that he was totally ordinary.

His brother-in-law was an engineer of sorts, but stopped working to run the guru-business when the foreigners started giving up the bucks for buildings. Once Ravi Shankar's (now departed) mother said to me "my son is very rich! He has more than one million US dollars in his own account now!" She seemed to think I should be proud of that fact. Unfortunately, I knew that people were giving up their careers and lives to make him rich, and he was not spending it as billed (check out the old 'dollar-a-day' children's program if you can find info on it. It was nearly 90% a fraud.) I can only guess what scale the skimming goes on at now that the truly huge bucks are coming in.

I met Ravi Shankar in a small group of 10 people in a friend's living room. That's how I got to know him. I'm not making these things up. He is a crook. He is also powerful (sorry Jody -- he has some sort of occult powers which I have witnessed many times, not always used for good either). Siddhis in the wrong hands can be a dangerous thing.

Now, on the other hand, he could have changed in the last few years. Who knows? But in my experience, paranoid liars who are mostly worried about their own futures don't change just like that. It takes a major blow to change them. For this man, I believe it will be getting caught in some spectacular way, although I can't imagine who would listen, since he is in with the Bangalore Police now, and, as Jody posts, even the Indian Army! At that level of influence in India, a person can do pretty much whatever they like and get away with it. Money and power talks, just like with everywhere.

Whew! That was quite a torrent of junk.

Oh well. So much for myths.

 
At 2/15/2006 3:11 PM, Blogger jody said...

He is also powerful (sorry Jody -- he has some sort of occult powers which I have witnessed many times, not always used for good either).

I'm still not convinced, OTOH. Sri Sri was touring California and my friends at a Kali temple asked him to come pay respects to the deity. Sri Sri had a list of demands that was well beyond what the tiny little temple could provide. All were left with the feeling that he was on a money and fame grab, no occult powers were noticed or are necessary for that.

I'm convinced these "occult powers" are nothing more than the stars-in-the-eyes of those who meet him. People have moving experiences in the presence of movie stars, too. As far as I'm concerned, it's projection and transference, 99% of the time, and personal charisma that last 1%.

 
At 2/15/2006 5:39 PM, Blogger falseguru said...

Jody,

I agree with you a large percentage of the time, but not this time. I'm not saying that Sri Sri has powers, but there is some kind of darshan energy that people do experience. Again, I'm not talking just about Sri Sri. I met him briefly, 15 years ago. Two friends were with me, one on either side, both of whom have plenty of money. I was not so endowed. Sri Sri looked at the 3 of us and said pointedly to them, "Is there anything I can do for you?" Me, he ignored.

In 1978 I went to what I thought was a concert of classical Indian spiritual music. It turned out to be Satguru Sant Keshavadas, now gone. I had never heard of him and did not know he was a guru at all. From the moment he began to sing, I was in an intense altered state, energy going up the spine, feeling like I had to hold on to the chair to keep from flying. Later I met him and became a student for many years. Almost everytime I saw him, some kind of state would happen.

It took a long time for me to find out the kind of guy he was, an advanced womanizer. He ended up being driven from this country and dying in India.

What seems strange to me is that some of these bogus or fallen gurus, like Keshavadas really do have a powerful presence, while some I feel are far more advanced, do not.

 
At 2/15/2006 5:41 PM, Blogger falseguru said...

Jody,

I agree with you a large percentage of the time, but not this time. I'm not saying that Sri Sri has powers, but there is some kind of darshan energy that people do experience. Again, I'm not talking just about Sri Sri. I met him briefly, 15 years ago. Two friends were with me, one on either side, both of whom have plenty of money. I was not so endowed. Sri Sri looked at the 3 of us and said pointedly to them, "Is there anything I can do for you?" Me, he ignored.

In 1978 I went to what I thought was a concert of classical Indian spiritual music. It turned out to be Satguru Sant Keshavadas, now gone. I had never heard of him and did not know he was a guru at all. From the moment he began to sing, I was in an intense altered state, energy going up the spine, feeling like I had to hold on to the chair to keep from flying. Later I met him and became a student for many years. Almost everytime I saw him, some kind of state would happen.

It took a long time for me to find out the kind of guy he was, an advanced womanizer. He ended up being driven from this country and dying in India.

What seems strange to me is that some of these bogus or fallen gurus, like Keshavadas really do have a powerful presence, while some I feel are far more advanced, do not.

 
At 2/15/2006 6:09 PM, Blogger jody said...

What seems strange to me is that some of these bogus or fallen gurus, like Keshavadas really do have a powerful presence, while some I feel are far more advanced, do not.

It proves my point, fg. It has nothing to do with the gurus, and everything to do with you. You are the spiritual savant. It was a karmic coincidence that it involved Keshavadas, but the shakti which manifested at your first meeting was all you, in my opinion. The same exact thing happened to a friend of mine who was also a Keshavadas devotee. I believe it's more a karmic phenomenon. You meet the one that is to teach you and a big kundalini event occurs. It doesn't mean the power was in Keshavadas or orchestrated by him. It was the fact of your karma together which initiated the experience you associate with his "powers."

 
At 2/16/2006 8:19 AM, Blogger falseguru said...

I understand what you mean. I don't believe there was any orchestratration by Keshavadas. But as you pointed out, it happened with many others. So the teacher was an element. I am happy to believe that it all comes from within and is a closed circuit production, but in daily experience, it appeared to be associated with the teacher.

What you said originally, seemed to deny the experience of the person, not help them understand it. If I say, "My wife has made a happy man of me.", your understanding would be, "No, it came from within you." I would agree with that but also boldly say, "My wife has made a happy man of me." This is my small self experience and it is as factual as The Alamo.


Was your friend a gardener?

 
At 2/16/2006 9:35 AM, Blogger ontheotherhand said...

Falseguru,

I had the same experience with Keshavadas, but it was in India in 1998 before he passed away. I do believe that Jody is right in saying that ultimately the experience is from within us, but it does seem to need to be "triggered" by some person, place or thing at a particular time, in my experience. Also, other things unrelated to how I was feeling, like "tricks" are common with these types. For example, Keshavadas looked at me for a few minutes and point blank told me the practices I had done, some of which were quite esoteric. He told me the exact problems I had experienced with a guru before that time, and the precise nature and habits of that teacher. All this before I had a chance to really talk to him. These were not vague generalities. He somehow had the siddhi necessary to know such things of people. Sri Sri has the same faculty. I don't think those skills are any more laudable than being able to ski in the olympics (maybe less), but they are skills, nonetheless. Too many people have them and cannot be tripped up in their exhibition of them. They are simply skills, learned over time, and executed sometimes in public for reasons I don't understand, except to impress people. They do not indicate a degree of enlightenment, imo. They are just skills acquired through practice. To deny they exist, one must have never seen people display them, or having seen them clearly displayed, still deny the existence of subtle matter and the fact that some people are able to play with that matter. Sure, some of these people are simple magicians. But many more are not. And they use these powers to get money, fame, sex, whatever. I have to disagree with Jody on that part of his point. These powers definitely exist, for better or worse. They go beyond the experience of shaktipat, or whatever. Certain people have displayed these "powers" or skills (as I prefer to call them) for as long as written history at least. They do the seeker, however, zero good, as far as I can tell.

 
At 2/16/2006 11:16 AM, Blogger falseguru said...

Hey OTOH,

We may know each other. I agree with you that these "powers" exist and are of limited use in knowing the Self. I knew Keshavadas from 1978-93 or so, when I stopped going to see him. The last time I spoke to him, he was highly encouraging me to get my 15 year old daughter to come and see him privately. Not long after that, I was told by several women that he tried to get sex out of every woman he came in contact with. Guess he thought he was Krishna. Oh yeah, he couldn't be because Sri Sri is.

Still I loved and benefitted from him. He helped me and so I have intense mixed feelings about him, MMY, and others. I saw first hand that Keshavada radiated (sorry Jody) intense love and being. He helped me see value in myself, when MMY and his group did the opposite. Yet he did "wrong and hurtful" things to people who trusted him.

What to do?

 
At 2/16/2006 11:19 AM, Blogger dontbullme said...

ontheotherhand,

Keshavadas might be true about your past..but why do you think he will be correct with everyone else?
The domain of the information he told about u is very little. It is about gurus and practices. He very well knows about all the famous gurus and their practices at that time. Can he tell what you ate last night?..I dont think so. (Not because he died :-) )

you must have definitely given somekind of hint to him. These guys are really clever and notice everything.

 
At 2/16/2006 12:29 PM, Blogger facedog said...

wrong again, dontbullme.

 
At 2/16/2006 2:54 PM, Blogger dontbullme said...

We approach these gurus in the weakest moments of your life..That is the main problem. Gurus like Sri Sri teach exactly what these kind of people want to listen. Think of a person going to a Guru on a normal happy day. That can never happen.

 
At 2/16/2006 5:38 PM, Blogger facedog said...

Surprisingly, I don't agree with you, donotbullme. In places where the guru has been institutionalized, like India and in western new age sub-cultures, people are very easy to con because they come as conmen to the guru. They come for relationships (sex), improved job security (money), and to shine more in their personal lives (power). They actually believe they can get these with little or no effort through the guru. If they are rich Indians, they demand it and try to control the guru. I have seen them physically block the guru from leaving a building, in order to get more "merit" and good karma, more blessings.

But there are plenty of sincere people who are looking for truth. The real guru tells them that they can only find it in themselves, through a mixture of self-effort and grace. If they are mature, they are told to stand on their own two feet.

 
At 2/16/2006 6:55 PM, Blogger dontbullme said...

what is so surprising? u never agree with me. :-)

You are talking about small group of people who want to get close to gurus. I'm not talking about them.

 
At 10/28/2006 12:42 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

Reallyyy...
I Agree With dontbullme...
thanks for the shortcut to "the true call.."

These Gurus must write authentic things.. Because Their desiples take them as So Calles "Truth"..

He said. . at that time Riots were going on in Gujarat.. (Several innocent people/girls were getting killed/raped in the name of religion - as heared in news). . His intention was to Calm People down and spread Peace...

Bull shit...

Can he write any thing to save the lives of the people..

Can he write anyyy thing?


It is more important to speak word to word Perfect....

I Completely agree with U

 
At 10/28/2006 12:53 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

I also dont understand...

Why Sri Sri was in such a hurry to write the book (At the time of Riots) ..

No body were coming in Bangalore to killl him... Why was he not sitting peacefullyy & relaxed there... infront of his PC like DontBullMe...

Why he needs to initiate peace all the time...? I think he has earned a lot.. I have heared he eats only 70 gms rice daily & sleeps in the floor.. what he has earned must be enough for rest of his life.. now he should rest.. and people like dontbullme should take the charge....

 
At 3/06/2007 3:13 AM, Anonymous The Witness said...

U know wht guyz, u ppl r nuts. coz neither u guyz get wht His Holiness Sri Sri Ravishankar is tryin2 say, nor can u listen to ur instinct; ur very self. U said first tht Zakir Naik nailed Sri Sri Ravishankar in the Debate. Fine. But wht was the depate 'bout? Similarities between Islam n Hinduism. Rite? So was tht a competition, Absolutely not. They came to show the world tht we r one. We belong to the same family. But u guyz didn't get tht.Anywayz mr. anonymous says tht he has a lot of money. Srry, AOL is rich in Devotees n Volunteers, not material money. N y does he go spreadin peace. So tht guyz like u n me can stay at home peacefully n have a sound sleep. Man u r the most living dead souls i hv come across, not bcoz u don't respect gr8 ppl, bcoz u dont experiance anythin. Millions of ppl have benfitted fm AOL, but u guyz juz like Sai Baba sayz shall n will suffer until forgiveness fm the Almighty Allah or Shiv or Vishnu or Shakti(all one n the same) bestow over u. Now i realize tht net was though invented by a genius but fools like u r also reapin the benefits of it. N H.H. stand for His Holiness which means tht he is as holy tht u can neva imagine. After readin all this if u guyz have a lil bit of dignity left in u. Understand the meanin of love, transcend words, don't b a fool or else u ll b anomic. Jai Gurudev. God Bless u guyz.

 
At 9/27/2008 6:53 PM, Anonymous Dr. Zakir Naik's Fan said...

i hope you like some of the info which was part of the discussion between Dr. Zakir Niak and Sri Sri Ravi Shankar. I have posted the discussion under the name Anonymous but i wish to follow the speaker's name and i will try to post some more comments on this blog. i hope all will take this in right sprite and also try to cross verify if in doubt. hope this is ok with all. :-))))

 
At 3/20/2009 1:31 AM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

Only those people who cannot do anything other than passing "expert comments" are the ones saying negative things about great masters like Bhagawan Sri Sathya Sai Baba and Sri Sri Ravi Shankar.These so-called "rationalists" cannot do anything good for the society.They can just vent out their jealousy and frustration at great masters who are serving the society selflessly and transforming millions across the world.I dont care if I receive hostile and abusive replies for this post.I am used to it. What else can these "rationalists" offer other than egoistic replies? But I am not at all angry at them. May God bless them as well. May all be happy! Om Shanti Shanti Shanti.

 
At 8/22/2009 3:41 PM, Anonymous love is knowledge said...

First we have to clear one thing that ,A GURU IS NOT A BODY , A GURU IS A TATVA - GURU TATVA is BIGGEST in this universe.

Inside everyone(Human Beings) there is a BIG MIND what we called GURU. Those who knows his /her inner self , He a ETERNAL BLISSED PERSON(GURU).

IF we respect any GURU , IN return we respect with ourselves.

we can not judge a GURU only using yours intellect because we can not judge this universe only through yous intellect. Bramha Gyan (conciousness) is beyond time and space. we simply can not measured it.
Those who know , who knows
and those who do not know , they never knows only by their intellect.

 
At 1/21/2010 11:16 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

FIRST OF ALL I RESENT AND CONDEMN THE STUPID PERSON-A NO BODY AND NOTHING IN WORLD-WHO CALLS GOD OF GODS AND LORD OF WORLDS-SATHYA SAI BABA-ADORED AND ADMIRED IN 180 COUNTRIES-AS THE BABSTER-I AM SURE THIS IGNORANT IMBECIL NEVER WENT PERSONALLY TO VERIFY IF SAI IS OR IS NOT GOD-TELL THE TRUTH-SEEMS TODAY HAS NO VALUE-TALK RUBBISH AND MANY WILL BUY YOUR NEWS BECAUSE TODAY WORLD IS MORE FULL WITH TRASHY TYPES THAN WITH SANE MINDS-GOOD HEARTS AND INTELIGENT BRAINS-AS FOR RAVI SHANKAR OF SRI SRI TAIL BEHIND HIM OR ZAKIR NAIK-THE HINDU KNOWS NOTHING OF TRUE HINDU SPIRITUAL SECRETS OR MYSTERIES AND THE MUSLIM IS ONLY BOOKISH KNOWLEDGE SCHOLAR-MEANING-SCHOOL BOY-NONE OF THE TWO IS TRUE HOLY MAN OR TRUE GODMAN LIKE RUMI OR NANAK-RAMAKRISHNA PARAMHAMSA OR IBN ARABI OR HAFIZ SHIRAZI-BOTH ARE ONLY HOLINESSS PRETENDERS-TRUE HOLIMEN NEVER ENTER INTO DEBATES-HAR CHALAY SO SANT HAE LAAG MARAY SO NEECH-GREAT SANT KABIR-AND-TURN THE OTHER CHEEK ASWELL-JESUS-THEY BOTH ARE MONEY SEEKERS AND MONEY MAKERS UNDER RELIGIOUS GUISE-NOT GOD SEEKERS OR LOVERS-IT IS SHAME WHEN PEOPLE IGNORE PURE GOLD RIGHT IN FRONT BUT RUN AFTER TRINKETS LIKE THESE TWO JOKERS OF THEIR RELIGIONS-Bandakhuda-cnn-ireport.com

 
At 1/23/2010 8:24 PM, Blogger gframesch said...

RAVI SHAKAR WITH TAIL AS SRI SRI WENT TO SEE SAI BABA-BUT-SAI BABA DID NOT SEE HIM OR SPEAK TO HIM-HE WAS AMONG THE VIP CROWD-THAT IS ALL

 
At 3/04/2010 1:02 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

Hi All,

Nice to read all your comments. I will add something for you guys. Maharishi Mahesh used to work under one of the shankaracharyas where he saw the money and influence. So, he started his own shop and became perhaps commercially most successful spiritual guru. At that time, Sri Ravi Shankar was working in his so called spiritual shop. He again saw the same money and influence that Mahesh saw in Shankaracharya's shop. So, Finally Ravi Shankar also started his shop.
The story will continue as this business is evergreen.

If you really want to experience spirituality then try Vipassana meditation.

 
At 9/30/2010 8:05 AM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

Naik is like a horse with a narrowed focus and he can't think beyond Quran....He is like a mentally retarded child who keeps repeating his nonsense, foolish talks and like any normal person should behave to these challenged kids is to ignore them and let them be happy within their kind of challenged society. Surprisingly, theres a lot of ignorant friends following his nonsense too.

 
At 4/26/2011 8:21 AM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

those who said knows nothing and those who knows said nothing

 
At 9/01/2014 9:06 AM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

Download Dr Zakir Naik vs Sri Sri Ravi Shankar Complete Debate 480p H264 [Dual-Audi][English-Bengali] : http://bettersolution4u.blogspot.com/2014/08/dr-zakir-naik-vs-sri-sri-ravi-shankar.html

 

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