Tuesday, January 30, 2007

A Brother-In-Arms Comes Online

File under: Gurubusting

Right before Ammachi's Imagegate broke out, we received an email from one Kevinanda Yogi heralding the arrival of his own guru gossip site: Chi-Ting Guru Gossip, which he uses to comment on visiting gurus in Tiruvannamalai, South India, home of Arunachala Mountain and Ramana Maharshi, and ostensibly the world captial of Advaita Vedanta.

Here is what Kevinanda has to say about a guru named Muz Murray:
Weird aging English hippy who looks like a stick end insect in orange, obviously took too much LSD in the 60’s and never recovered as he is still peddling his delusions 40 years later. Cuts a rather lonesome figure in high season, when he is totally ignored and often trampled underneath foot by the guru hunting crowds. After high season, he is sometimes seen with the gullible making strange insect noises which he calls mantras.
Kevinanda sounds like our kind of guy, and he comes recommended by the Grand Poobah of modern gurubusting, Sarlo of Sarlo's Guru Rating Service, so please give Kevinanda's site a spin when you get a chance.

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At 2/02/2007 9:50 AM, Anonymous durga said...

I did take a look at Kevinanda's website and the guy excels in his craft. One criticism-- he mentions how the Israelis are attracted to a certain rasta loking guru, with whom they can smoke pot (Semblance, this may be your kind of guy), and in an aside mentions that the Jews aren't so good with messiahs cause they helped to kill the real deal. I don't want to be a party pooper but why not mention the thousands of "heretics", witches, etc... the Christians weren't so good with either who later were canonized as saints. This wouldn't bother me if genocide weren't still an issue and hate crimes a thing of the past.

 
At 2/03/2007 9:38 PM, Blogger TheBlade said...

Durga, the notion that 'the jews' crucified Jesus is as absurd as the notion that 'the Hindus' shot Mahatma Gandhi.... If he means it, it's as obnoxious as hell, but from reading it on the site though, I'm not sure if he isn't just 100% joking around.... sort of South Park style, just throwin mud at everything that moves. I just can't tell, though I'd understand that you find it offensive.

BTW, if someone is seriously saying 'the jews' crucified Jesus, the remedy is that they stop saying it, not that they throw mud at Christians also.

 
At 2/04/2007 12:53 AM, Blogger semblance s and orchestra said...

Thankies Durga !

I am yet to explore the site.
I have not had enough of guruphiliac itself(that is till chuck gets reformed fully).

The impact i have, when smoking the pot alone is unparallel. Im still cycnical about passing the pipe among the groupies.

Thats why i told chuck to buzz off
when he asked me to pass the pipe !

 
At 2/04/2007 7:16 AM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

Arunachala must be the perfect place for recruiters to set up shop.

Maharshi's ashram would be the big crowd-draw. Maharshi has a splendid reputation, is also now safetly dead, so legions of visitors will come to the area, already with idealizing transferances to Maharshi well in place.

A pond full of hungry fish.

Few such visitors would understand that in an old country like India, the people there know that legions arrive who are adult on the surface, but underneath the adult facade, are vulnerable little kids, looking for magic--and looking for Magic Mommies or Magic Daddies.

All that a recruiter need do is look and act like a guru, then drop the hook into the pond.

In his book 'The Light at the Center' Agehanandha Bharati, who had visited Tirvanamalai and had travelled throughout India said that people in that area had a proverb -- that only Shiva could really know which person in a robe was holy and which one was not.

That proverb would not have come about had there not been the long standing problem of discerning who is for real and who is on the make.

And Bharati only heard that proverb because he was fluent in several Indian languages. Most Western visitors dont have that kind of background and would not have access to the parts of Indian tradition that warn seekers to exercise caution and street smarts when looking for a teacher.

 
At 2/04/2007 8:08 AM, Blogger CHUCK said...

Blade said,

the remedy is that they stop saying it, not that they throw mud at Christians also.
.................

I hope that means you have decided to lay off of Mule Puky and not suggest he is a classic anti-semite just because he doesn't nurse at the flowing breasts of Mother Science!

 
At 2/04/2007 9:03 AM, Anonymous durga said...

blade said: Durga, the notion that 'the jews' crucified Jesus is as absurd as the notion that 'the Hindus' shot Mahatma Gandhi.... If he means it, it's as obnoxious as hell.

That's what he seems to be saying, Blade, in a south park kind of way. Just cause he's joking around doesn't make it ok. That same accusation has been used for centuries to expell, massacre, and demean people of Jewish ethnicity. In my travels, I have actually been told that same thing by educated people.

"BTW, if someone is seriously saying 'the jews' crucified Jesus, the remedy is that they stop saying it, not that they throw mud at Christians also."

Yes, that's true, but when people get sanctimonious about their particular saviors, it's sometimes useful to give a reality check rather than be a screen for negative projections. No ethnic group on this planet, as far as I know, has not committed horrible atrocities at some point in time.

 
At 2/08/2007 7:28 AM, Anonymous durga said...

chuck said: I hope that means you have decided to lay off of Mule Puky and not suggest he is a classic anti-semite just because he doesn't nurse at the flowing breasts of Mother Science!

About science and in defense of mule puky, I just found a book in the library for Blade to read called "Science and the Myth of Progress", ed. Mehrdad Zarandi. Looks like an interesting read.

 
At 2/08/2007 10:34 AM, Blogger TheBlade said...

I just found a book in the library for Blade to read called "Science and the Myth of Progress", ed. Mehrdad Zarandi.


The title is off-putting to me, because it suggests 'progress is a myth'. A good concept of progress, though, is free of myth. So 'progress is a myth' is false under reasonable meanings of 'progress', so the phrase is something of a bludgeoning tool, and suggests propagandism.

I hope it's not one of those awful books written by academics in the humanities who are resentful because the Sciences are getting the funding.

 
At 2/08/2007 5:06 PM, Anonymous durga said...

Blade said: I hope it's not one of those awful books written by academics in the humanities who are resentful because the Sciences are getting the funding.

Blade, I haven't read it yet, but it includes essays by philosophers, scientists, and people in comparative religion. From reading the descriptions of the essayists, it sounds fair, not biased as you suggest.
You are so quick to judge.

 
At 2/08/2007 6:19 PM, Blogger TheBlade said...

>> Durga said: You are so quick to judge.

Perhaps. But I have an intuition that my judgement is good in this case. 'Science and the Myth of Progress' as a title suggests strongly an agenda. Compare with a hypothetical book called 'The Myth of Jewish Achievement', to which Jewish philosophers also contribute. Their contribution would hardly change the fact that the book would seem to have an agenda, and that you would have doubts about its contents.

Besides, the Scientists who contributed could have under-funded spouses in the humanities. :)

Enjoy Guruphiliac, Durga . :) We're not all assholes here, but sometimes when it rains contention, it pours.

 
At 2/09/2007 7:55 AM, Anonymous durga said...

Ok Blade, I will name the essayists in this book. I have only read the 1st one: Osman Bakar, Wendell berry, Titus Burckhardt, James Cutsinger. William Dembki, Charles le Gai Eaton, Rene Guénon, Donald Matheson, Giovanni Monastra, Seyyed Nasr, Michael Negus, Lord Northbourne, .F. Shumacher, Frithjof Schuon etc... I don't know who any of these people are except for Guenon.
Reading this is just my way of trying to reconcile beliefs that have given meaning to peoples' lives for centuries with the scientific worldview, which is generally atheistic. The title does suggest bias, but I think the authors have intellectual inegrity, at least after reading the 1st essay.

And I did not make the comment about assholes atributed to me, although it does sometimes feel that way on this blog. But maybe that's just because I seem to be the only female contributing besides betty and my way of relating is less confrontative.

 

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