Guruphiliac: More Online Trouble For Nithyananda

Friday, October 30, 2009

More Online Trouble For Nithyananda

File under: Gurubusting and The siddhi of PR

Some of the best comment battles on this blog have occurred with Nithyananda devotees. But we're beginning to see the defenders become exposers, as the folks who get close can now see behind the curtain, providing the information they need to opt out of the charade, as this brave soul has done with his blog, The Truth About the Cult of Nithyananda:
For all you sweet devotees of Nithyananda's La-La Land, those who believe in this illusion and falsehood, you must read the book, “The 48 Laws of Power” by Robert Greene. Pay particular attention to 217-218 on cults psychology that is applied on you by your loving master, Nithyananda.
A disgruntled ex is no big deal, but we know of three very inner-circle devotees who've split like this. It only reinforces what we saw from the start. Nithyananda's oversized personality isn't divine, it's just persuasive. Instead of a saint, he's at best, a deluded con man, and at worst, a knowing one.

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At 10/30/2009 3:51 AM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

Thank God for Jody's blog.Only prayer don't become jodyananda!

Earlier I got swayed by hindoo avatards' lugubrious dirge *indooismisindanger*. I truly believed Sonia Gandhi was causing this as bludgeoned on our heads by them.

Let us leave Sonia & Dawood Ibrahim alone for a while. As they never called themselves avatar/enlightened yadayada.

Who is going to hold this plethora of indoogurus accountable for perjury?

Why can't Pujyapujyapujya Swami Dayananda ask PujyapujyapujyaSrisrisrisri Ravishankar to donate to his kitty?

And puttaparthi Babaster donate to aolRavishankar's kitty? Ammachi to Ramdev's kitty? Kalki bhagwaaaan to aol's kitty ? Mataji Nirmala to kalki's kitty ? And Nityananda to Nirmala's kitty??Narayaniamma(of the gold temple fame money for which came from a gullible foreigner cured of some ailment allegedly)) to Nithya's kitty?

See what I mean ? Mutual admiration godmengodwomen clique as they are all consummate renunciates. Money just " pours " for them. They "never ask or charge".

One of the Priests of a well known ancient Temple in Tamil Nadu paid 4000 rupees to smileplease Nithyananda as the latter promised " solution to all problems" by learning his kriya.

It got worse. Then Nithyananda asked for 50,000 rupees for more powerful next grade kriya.Which the Priest obviously could not afford.Hence left after doing multiple prostrations to scoundrel Nithyananda.

If these learned Priests lack conviction & faith in the Gods they routinely worship with such proximity , running after liars & cheats like Ravishankars & Nithyanandas how can any God save them ?

Ravishankars , Nithyanandas & Ramdevs are today's version of Hiranyakashipus & Bhasmasurans. Seriously.

Those demons also did powerful sadhnas, kriyas seeking special powers like invincibility , fame , immortality , riches and so forth.

In a spoof on such swamijees on tv , a politician(indian obviously) asks one such swamiji to join politics . As he is amazed by his manipulative conning skills.

The swamijeee replies:

" Two scoundrels cannot coexist ".

At 10/30/2009 9:24 AM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

Jody, There is more inner circle people left than the three you know of. In one California city, the entire satsang leadership left. These including several extended ashramites, acharyas and semajis who contributed 10% of their gross income. One of the person who left was a maha-acharya who was given "enlightenment" by Nithy.

At 10/30/2009 11:31 AM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

I cant understand a few things here.

1. Why cant money be involved in a spiritual org? Even if its a rip off?
(Its people choice to get ripped off or not. But it cant be a crime. They are plainly expensive).

2. What if people leave in troves? Does it make a org any lesser ? I would not mind joining an org even if a lot of people say a lot of things not so good about it.
- unless it affects me or hurts me.

I bust money on a lots of things and why not on these guys who atleast seem to work for some in a positive manner?

We can probably wince that they are money minded but cant question their spirituality as if to be religious or spiritual is to be always money free ??

Where does this idea come from?

At 10/30/2009 1:22 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

There's plenty more reasons to leave Nithyananda and his cult than just money. Take a good look of what is out there online. Take a close look at the cult members' behavior, take a close look at the teaching of Nithyananda. Are divorces happening? Are families being separated through brainwashing? Do those acharayas and sanyasis really seem happy when the spotlight is not on them? Has there been a lot of illicit sex occurring at the ashrams? Do the cult members yell at each other when the situation gets rough? Does Nithyananda's stories about himself add up? (Are there discrepancies such as unaccounted years, missing degrees, unverified birthdates, and various places where Nithyananda received his final 'enlightenment'?) Then ask your inner-voice. I would stay far, far, far away.

At 10/30/2009 1:37 PM, Anonymous hippie said...

At issue here isn't just the big money that Nithy is charging. It is the deception and lies that use to trick people that is troubling.

If Nithy had been honest in saying that he is selling a scam for US$6,000 for 21 days (may be longer) in his ashram in India. That would not be so troubling.

Nithy may be able to give you a temporary high. He seem to have some occult powers. I don't believe he can bestow enlightenment as he claims.

I am very glad that someone care enough to write a blog with a lot of detailed info about the Nithy cult.

Thank you very much for blog. You are doing a great service to many spiritual aspirants by preventing them from falling into the trap. It may also help those already in to leave.

At 10/30/2009 10:17 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

Has there been a lot of illicit sex occurring at the ashrams?

Well, has there, or has there not?

Talk is cheap. The burden of proof is on *you*. Disgruntled former members are fully capable of distorted half-truths themselves.

It's not as if someone can stand up in public and have the balls to challenge Nithyananda, "So, Swamiji, I hear your ashrams are a hotbed of illicit sex. Is it true? I wanna know before I sign on the dotted line".

At 10/30/2009 10:34 PM, Anonymous Alert said...

Hippie has it absolutely correct. Money does count. Not that anyone should worry if someone wanted to blow their savings on something foolish like Las Vegas, a risky investment, or even a long meditation retreat. But, the fact is that Mr. Nithyananda and his cronies are selling ‘enlightenment’ and spiritual gain but fall very short in delivering what is promised. This act of selling deception is known in legal terms as fraud.

Mr. Nithyananda has many deluded followers who actually think that serving him is divine service. This is sad, but forgivable. There are, however, several members of Mr. Nithyananda’s inner circle that fully know the lies and deceit of this sham, and have vested interest, usually fame, to help Mr. Nithyananda carry out his shameful scam. Life will not be easy for these folks.

So, my question to the poster who thinks that Mr. Nithyananda and his cult is seemingly innocent enough as long as you don’t mind spending the dollars for him. Is Mr. Nithyananda’s mission really something worth supporting? Will you stick with him when the police raid his ashrams and alleged temples and arrest inner circle members, administrators, acharayas, and key volunteers? Will you stick with him after those loyal followers who stay in his ashrams without proper visas are deported? If you’re a major donor, do you really want to have that conversation with the police to determine if you really were aware of what this cult was doing and if your donations are viewed as material support to a criminal operation?

Once you are aware that this is a cult, that the basis of this cult is deceit, and the activities of separating money from trusting individuals in exchange for ‘what-is-certainly-not’ is criminal, then you should ‘just drop it’ and move on. Yes, this is the best time to leave the cult of Nithyananda, no matter what your involvement is, no matter how much you have invested, just save yourselves and get out now.

At 10/30/2009 11:12 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

Jody, noticed your tweet, "It's in a commercial guru's best interest to *prevent* enlightenment. Keep them on the tit. Right, Amma?"

Well, Nithyananda has taken it one step further. He is smart: declare your disciples /devotees are now ENLIGHTENED (jivan muktas). But then also make statements like "true disciples never leave the Master even after they are enlightened. They are filled with gratitude and continue to be with the Master".

I think Osho also said something similar.

Clever, eh?

At 10/30/2009 11:14 PM, Blogger guruphiliac said...

It's downright diabolical.

At 10/31/2009 12:18 AM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

Ground Realities in India:

There was one diabolical crook called Premananda in Tamil Nadu with the mandatory ashram & many deluded followers. Many years later after a couple of murders of dissidents , the police & regional press started investigating. Found that ananda had spawned forth many illegitimate children also. He was sent to jail.

A few years ago , there was another report which left me incapable of any kind of reaction.The same Premananda was allowed to visit his ashram for a while. All those children clung to him happily calling him "Appa" (Daddy in tamil) complaining about bland monotonous breakfast , asking him to intervene. The victims (raped women) stood with him posing for photographs.Premananda (looking much more rotund)smugly told:

" So what if I am convicted.Look how they dote on me. I am coming back after serving my sentence to be with my darling children".

Bitter, but where else can they go? They will never be able to integrate in mainstream society. Here at least are assured of a roof over their heads & food.

There are plenty more of such things happening never getting reported in mainstream media.

India is not America that is better structured with rules & regulations. And better calibrated governance.

At 10/31/2009 12:42 AM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

anon@ 11:31 ,

You want to get conned. Nobody is complaining.

There are dedicated doctors , teachers , normal people that you see around working diligently who don't call themselves avatars.They EARN their income.

Ravishankar uses his dedicated followers to get the seva done. Has he , his sister or father personally cleaned all the toilets used , washed the vessels? NO. He exhorts the vulnerable ( who come abandoning their homes or taking off from their jobs foregoing say a month's salary) to do toilet cleaning etc. Deluding themselves this seva would entitle them to ravishankar's non existent grace.

The same people recoil from doing such work in their own homes.Instead hyperventilate , canvass around hunting for potential idiots to join aol.

Trust his cronies to flay their arms saying " but our teachers were so good-gurudevji is not responsible-choice is yours, blessing is his-don't doubt-don't question-a question is a hook that tears the brain...."

They are full of infuriating gobbledygook. But such is the imbecility of many indians' intellect , they go euphoric over inane gobbledygook.

Is it any wonder these gurus proliferate with more gusto?

At 10/31/2009 12:56 AM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

" Talk is cheap. The burden of proof is on *you*.

comment posted above.

NO. Let the onus of disproving fall on Nithys & Ravishankars.

At 10/31/2009 1:28 AM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

There is nothing like community service , restorative justice in chaotic India.

The well connected & influential make merry in prisons also. Playing cricket , getting oil massages , drug trafficking.

Most hindus have a tenaciously foolish fetish for symbols alone never internalising the spirit behind it.

Which is why Ramakrishna P cautions to be ever anchored in Advaita & do bhakthi/worship so as not to go overboard. On my visit to a village full of impoverished people with sparse greenery , I saw overzealous hindus cutting off 18 banana stumps , fashioning 18 steps & lighting 18 oil lamps on them. Accompanied by chants in eardrum splitting decibels. WHY. Because they were undertaking pilgrimage to Sabarimalai Temple in Kerala & imploring the Lord to guide in climbing those arduous 18 steps.

Our Maker does not want those living Plants to be so ruthlessly hacked. What is the point in chanting " Vrukshebyo , HariKaeshebyo....( Thou art the Trees , The Leaves...)"???

At 10/31/2009 6:10 AM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

NO. Let the onus of disproving fall on Nithys & Ravishankars.

WTF, onus of disproving? You sir, are an idiot. Do you understand how the courts of law work? This fellow made some serious allegations with NO evidence, but he couched his allegations in the form of a question, so it appears as if he is encouraging discriminative investigation. However, it doesn't take a genius to see through the rhetoric.

Legal Burden of Proof - Civil Cases

The general rule is that "he who asserts must prove", i.e., the burden rests with the plaintiff (the party bringing the action).

Burden of Proof (Wikipedia)

Burden of Proof

At 10/31/2009 6:15 AM, Anonymous Observer said...

Is it just me, or has the overall quality of comments gone down the toilet lately? So much ranting and raving and bickering, with thread craps and people going off on tangents?

Jody I think your new blog will attract a more intelligent crowd lol

At 10/31/2009 6:17 AM, Blogger Free said...

Regarding enlightened disciples, all past masters have said the same. From Shiva to Buddha, to everyone. Usually, after the death of the master, the enlightened disciple tends to have his own followers.

I feel that many unfair accusations are being made. Why can't anyone just say what it is, clearly, stating some evidence.

If a person leaving is an issue, then at MIT, it must be a helish institution, since about 30 to 40% of students leave the "brainwashing organization"...

I think there is a matter of expectations, and also of exagerated claims by the org. I can believe that.

Regarding the first "anyonymous", it is not ok to proselitize catolicism and Sonia Gandhi. I am sorry, I have worked with her party in India, and that is a group of deception. And yes, she does promote her image, she does sell herself as a power-woman who can "cure" and "help"... And her catholic church is flush with money, trillions of dollars, some of which is being use to "cleanse" India from Vedanta.

I am serious, these people... afff...

At 10/31/2009 6:25 AM, Blogger Free said...

Regarding indian villagers, what is so wrong man? India has 1/10 of most of the world's per-capita police stations, and yet has 1/10 of murders of most of the world...

Maybe having simple (and even naive) desires, and performing rituals and all that, has helped them be this way. You can't tell me that "the british system" is what makes India peaceful compared to England, Brasil and the USA. I have lived in more than 10 countries around the world, and know exactly what I am talking about...

Jodie, it is sad that only haters are appearing to post here. Why doesn't anybody, who is balanced, also defends some of the good ideas coming out of India? Has anyone actually read the Vedanta?

I know your intentions, and that is the only reason I come back once in a while... But the collection of commentators is quite sad.

By the way, the USA, Britain, France, and so on, have all been supported on pillage, rape, murders, and illegal money as well as exploitative religious people. Read history. They benefited from it. Of course, one can claim there is always some honesty among dishonest. There is truth in Vedanta, and some of the Masters. Doesn't mean all they do is true, but it doesn't mean all masters are crooks because one or two are...

This is just ridiculous. Regarding the definition of "I am God". Well, if we all say "I am God", we have solved one of the central problems in worldwide religions... Most exploitation happens due to lack of confidence to say that.

The so called exploitation in India, is not a tenth of what I experience as a routine in the USA. Some people need to be around the leaders of my current country and see the kinds of things they practice rsssss

At 10/31/2009 6:31 AM, Blogger Free said...

To the last anonymous, please expound what you follow or believe in. I am a cientist, biologist, and researcher at one of the top 10 institutions in the world...

Now, there are many animals and plants suffering here for our research. Do I invoke christianity? No, sometimes for the greater good you may do researcher on cancer on rats or brain monitoring of monkeys.

On the other hand, whatever faith you follow, and that is whatever, unless you are a Vegan recluse living in a cave, you are committing worse violent acts than "18 banana tree stumps" being cut in "Sabarimala".

Please do not hide behind the anonymous moniker, or your church and political party denomination. This is the usual insidious, I "believe" in my political party/church/religion, but not in yours game... What is so different in communism from one is claiming themselves God? rssss Just because they don't use the word, doesn't mean they don't exert the power... Live in Shangai, please. I have done it, it is beautiful, but it is worse than any ashram rsssss

At 10/31/2009 11:45 AM, Anonymous hippie said...

To the anon post at 10/30/2009 11:12 PM

One requirement of this Nithy enlightenment is that the disciple has to trust the "master" so much that she/he never question any word of the master. So If Nithy says the disciple is enlightened, the disciple accepts it as *fact*. No question about it. This puts the enlightened disciple in a bind. If the enlightened disciple have any doubts, ii is due his/her own failure in trusting the master's words.

Nithy had it all figured out.

There was another game Nithy played: The enlightened disciples vowed never to disclose their enlightenment to anyone (outside the permitted inner cicle). The rest of us can only guess who is enlightened or who isn't.

As of the Mission Training in September 2007, Nithy claims 53 enlightened disciples. I am sure he has many more now. lol

At 10/31/2009 1:12 PM, Blogger gregory said...

i like the guy

At 10/31/2009 2:13 PM, Blogger cw said...

"1. Why cant money be involved in a spiritual org? Even if its a rip off?
(Its people choice to get ripped off or not. But it cant be a crime. They are plainly expensive).


We can probably wince that they are money minded but cant question their spirituality as if to be religious or spiritual is to be always money free ??

Where does this idea come from?"

Money can be involved, but as with Scientology, the Moonies, and other charismatic groups, at some point the money becomes the prime focus, and poisons the entire operation from the roots up. The money-driven focus causes immense harm to the people involved.

While the money-exchange is not in and of itself harmful, the abuses that stem from certain groups should certainly be observed, and their money-grubbing focus should be identified.

At 10/31/2009 9:22 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

Free Said...

Jodie, it is sad that only haters are appearing to post here. Why doesn't anybody, who is balanced, also defends some of the good ideas coming out of India? Has anyone actually read the Vedanta?

Hey Free,

I've tried. A recent post in the Sri Sri / Ayurveda post was mine - Anonymous @ 10/27/2009 11:33 AM (followed by a response by jody about Nithyananda)

Look at the responses it generated, and you will see why it's pointless. People automatically assume I am some sort of Pro-Hindu right wing religious nut / Anti-Catholic fanatic. I am not.

One of these critics has mentioned Ramakrishna, forgetting that he fully supported Narendra, and knew the kind of zealous voice of social/religious change Narendra would be [as Swami Vivekananda]. People here seem to forget that Advaita has *always* gone hand-in-hand with its social reform aspect. Even Shankara did not neglect the social aspect by establishing the mathas, creating a dashanami order etc.

Yes, plenty is wrong with the current capitalistic Guru model which lends itself to abuses. But let's not throw out the baby with the bathwater. I daresay, these self-appointed Indian "critics" have very little life experience with being involved in the efforts needed to keep Vedanta alive in an increasingly "secular", greedy, corrupt political environment in India.

At 10/31/2009 9:40 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

Here is the story of one of Nithy's foremost enlightened disciples, Swami Medhananda. What a sad transformation of a once intelligent getle human being.

Please Cut and paste the link to read it.

At 10/31/2009 10:54 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

Point out the faults of hindus. Expect to be labelled 'chritian-muslim' by the fanatics. Read the comments well before responding.

This is not about Sonia or proselytization. Just because a fraudulent hindu calls himself enlightened or dons a saffron garb or shimmering white like srisriaol , does it mean he does not merit a closer unbiased scrutiny ? My comments are based on close encounters & inputs from slavish followers who woke up after considerable damage.

18 Banana Plants were hacked in a remote parched village in Tamil Nadu for smooth climbing of steps in Kerala.What an awesome alleged scientist who justifies it(( Nithyananda ofcourse eclipses all as far as rape of greenery goes.

Indians are caught in a time warp , excessively besotted with the past glory long dead. Do you mean to say during Mohammedan invasion , British colonisation & 1962 war with China our Maker was asleep?? Or that there are various Gods for different religions & countries?

Rest assured Jody knows the core message of Vedanta.

At 10/31/2009 11:14 PM, Anonymous hippie said...

After leaving the Nithy cult, I attend the local Vedanta Center. I am not a true believer. However, I am very glad to find a place to learn more from the Vedic Tradition w/o spending money I don't have.

I have not seen any evidence that Jody is against Vedanta. Jody can clarify this himself

To write against scams that claim to be of Vedanta/Hindu origin is not against Vedanta. Writing or speaking out against Moon or Jim Jones is not anti-Christian, though both these crooks claim to be Christian or the new Christ.

At 10/31/2009 11:48 PM, Blogger guruphiliac said...

I have not seen any evidence that Jody is against Vedanta.

I am initiated into Vedanta. But that doesn't mean everyone who teaches it is clear. Nithy and many other gurus pay lip service to Shankara and the Upanishads as they shit all over them from high atop their godman and godwoman pedestals.

At 11/01/2009 2:45 AM, Anonymous Justice said...

The seemingly anonymous posts worried about 'illicit sex' in Nithyananda's ashrams and 'burden of proof' seem to match the writing style of Sri Nithya Medhananda Swami, a.k.a. Krishna Challa. Mr. Medhananda, if you are worried about how the L.A. Ashram has turned into a hotbed of debauchery and illicit sex, you only need to ask these people about their honest behavior:

Tom Stoffel
Mr. Tom Stoffel did you not meet the wife of a married ashramite into a hotel in Ontario last November and give her an expensive 24K gold bracelet / watch?

Sri Nithya Paramananda did you betray your sweet wife and children for a 'fling' with a neighbor's wife under the cover of working far away?

David Herold
Mr. David Herold, do you not rehabilitate people off of drugs but seem to be addicted to other people's wives?

Sri Nithya Ajara, a.k.a. Arun Prasnat, are you not the home-wrecking 'renunciate' that divorced your wife and then ruined many other marriages with your incessant sex and mean spirited actions? Sri Nithya Ajara, are you not the laughing stock of Nithyananda's order? Sri Nithya Ajara, would the Truths about Nithyananda ever come to light as fast as they did if you did not disobey your cult leader and keep on meddling?

Mr. Medhananda, as you know, there are several ashramites who were given 'enlightenment' by Nithyananda, but who have left his exploitive empire due to disgust from his hypocrisy.

If you are so confident, please get your lawyer. I already have mine, and am very ready.

Your cult leader, Mr. Nithyananda, will be sliced under penalty of perjury, all his crimes will be exposed to be placed on public record. There is lots of proof and many to testify.

And, finally, you, Medhananda, are you not guilty of spreading organized fraud? Do you not knowingly carry the deceit and swindle donors? Justice awaits. Prison could be your next ashram.

We wait for your actions. But guaranteed, Mr. Medhananda, if you keep on posting, so will I.

At 11/01/2009 1:20 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

The words of Nithyananda state "Existence is pure love. Keep on loving with all your heart, see existence in everything. Feel the plants with tenderness in your heart. See the animals as if they were your own. Seeing every human being as part of God that is real worship. It is easy to worship God in the temple. The real worship is seeing everything as God; seeing your neighbor as God. Love is he only thing that can make you feel that you are part of Existence."
The words are beautiful and not uncommon to many other teachers whom I have met and admire. My questions go out to Nithyananda as follows:
1. Why are so many angry with you if the above is what you profess?
2. Do you not practice what you preach in these noble doctrines?
3.Why do you ask people to pray to you when you state that worship an idea or a person is absolutely wrong?
4. If one is enlightened, would not one only emanate the love that you speak of?
5. How can you profess to have the guide to enlightenment, when it is each person's individual path?
6. If you have such super intelligence and superior knowledge why can't you figure out that your mode of operation may not be serving you well in the long run?
7. Who told you that you are enlightened or did you figure it out yourself? If you figured it out yourself, then I can say too that I am enlightened.
8. Being enlightened to me means treating each person, plant, animal and entity with respect, honor and dignity. That to me is pure love. I show this not just by my words but my actions with all I come in contact with.
9. Why is the same love you profess not coming back to you?

I think that there is some more growth to be done by the "Enlightened Master". If he truly were such a being, he wouldn't be having so much trouble around the world and so many would not disrespect, disregard and dislike him.

At 11/02/2009 11:35 AM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

Nithyananda is a perfect example of a person who is heavily empowered by Siddhis. Unfortunately he is using these siddhis to fulfill his ambitions.

Feel sad for those innocent souls who fell into his trap and are wasting their lives. Few years from now when the whole Nithyananda organization shall perish, these people will need therapy to bring them back to sanity.

Message to ashramites/devotees: Its not yet late. Think. Reason is your only best friend and guide. Vivekananda said: Inspiration is beyond reason BUT it should not contradict. Nithyananda devotees have forgotten the later half. They stick on to the former part and accept all misdoings of their Master.Get out and practice true spirituality under a Master who is humble/not after name & fame/and has realized the ATMAN.

God Bless you all.

At 11/02/2009 12:02 PM, Blogger guruphiliac said...

Nithyananda is a perfect example of a person who is heavily empowered by Siddhis.

Nithy's only "siddhi" is that he's well aware of how to take advantage of our implicit need to be accepted by those we perceive as greater than us. His "siddhis" are merely the mind tricks the devotees are playing on themselves.

At 11/02/2009 12:09 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

Whoever has posted as Justice.Is that all really true? Esp abt Paramananda?We are not in touch with them know but I used to know their family once upon a time and they are/were such a sweet family.I'm no supporter of Nithy and well aware of all the bad things happening but its hard to believe these sweet people could get so messed up.

At 11/02/2009 1:26 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

Jody, Nithy has siddhis (occult powers). I experienced it. I am a skeptical person.

It is very sad that he is misusing his siddhis for FAME, MONEY & POWER, ruining countless lives and misleading sincere seekers in the process.

This is an incredible blog with tons of details:

At 11/02/2009 1:41 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

I see that his $6000 USD for 21-day "Living Enlightenment" program is now called "Inner Awakening".

Guess that too many who attended the 21-day training in his crowded ashram for $6000 weren't convinced that they were enlightened.

You get only 3-hours of sleep in the training. Please don't get sick. Nithy may have occult powers but can't heal everyone.

At 11/02/2009 2:03 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

Medhananda: Please read this:


Yes, Medhananda is a nice enough person. I knew him before the
'transformation'. At one point, after the 'transformation' he spoke
very eloquently... but when the attention wasn't on him, then he
looked lost, empty, and very sad. (That was NOT how he seemed when I
first met him in 2005.) During the Acharaya Training in 2008, which
he led, there seemed to be lots of yelling and verbal abuse directed
at several of the participants. This is right out of any cult's
handbook of abusive training.. and breaking people's will.
Nithyananda did this to me over and over again. I don't think it is
in Medhananda's nature to do such things... but he must have been
ordered or worse yet, 'programmed' to do this type of behavior.
Regardless, this is not right and brings very bad karma.

Recent outings with Medhananda has been reported of contentious
arguments in parking lots with other devotees and even when he was
'warming up' the audience for Nithyananda to take the stage, he yelled
violently at one of the participants in a Kalpataru program for taking
notes. It has also been reported that he now seems to be 'at loss' of
words and takes long pauses to collect his thoughts. Proof that
Nithyananda's enlightenment is very short lived indeed.

The problem with Medhananda and lots of the other 'senior' disciples
is that they are completely trapped. Having given up nearly
everything, being center stage with the trapping of success, and then
putting all bets on Nithyanada places these people in a position where
they must defend Nithyananda and his reputation at all costs. Their
very survival depends on Nithyananda's survival. The 'taste' of
success as a lecturer and all of the attention that was showered on
them just makes it even worse. This is not enlightenment... but the
ego attaching itself to Nithyananda. This is very hard, but not
impossible, to escape from. ....."

You have become a zombie under the a dark yogi with siddhis......please wake up!

At 11/02/2009 4:19 PM, Anonymous Nitya Bose said...

Strip Nithy of all his make up of turban and clothes and put him in a regular apparels and make him sit on a plastic chair along with you and then have his darshan. If you can still vouch for his SIDDHIS then we will grant it to him.

Does he have the courage to stand on equal terms with us, dressed up just like us and rub shoulders with the common folks like us and still make them say that he is "enlightened" ? or even have "siddhis" ??

Very few gurus I know have convinced their greatness without taking to a high pedestal and in turban and cult get up. Nithy is just one more classic example who can exploit the "looks" carefully developed to appear like a "siddha purush"

At 11/02/2009 4:43 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

To the Anon who asked about Paramananda,

Paramananda & his "wife" stopped marital relations when they took Vanaprastha sannys in 2007 (may be earlier). In 2007, They sent their very young daughter to live in the Bidadi ashram in India while the couple stayed in LA with their son.

I don't know how they are now. May be Paramananda is enlightened now. lol

At 11/02/2009 8:54 PM, Anonymous hippie said...

Any one remember Nithy spoke of his regrets about missing the chance to meet with the great Swami Lakshmanjoo before Lakshmanjoo left his body?

During his wandering years, young Nithy learned of the serious illness of Lakshmanjoo. Nithy wanted to visit Lakshmanjoo before his passing. However, young Nithy vowed never to touch money. This prevented Nithy from taking the train or bus. Lakshmanjoo passed away before Nithy arrived. This was one of young Nithy's regrets.

Nithy mentioned this incident during the Shiva Sutra talks at Montclair temple in Nov 2007.

Lakshmanjoo passed away in 1991. See

How old was Nithy in 1991? He must be about 13 - assuming that he was born in 1978. Does Nithy claim to begin his wanderings at 13 or earlier?

His books said he begin his wanderings in 1995 at the age 17.

When he concocted this tall tale, Nithy probably didn't know when did Swami Lakshman Joo passed away.

Nithy was so absolute about Satya (truth) in his Jain Sutra discourse. What happened? Mr Nithyananda...please clarify.

At 11/02/2009 10:25 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

Regarding siddhis , PC Sircar, the famous magician from Calcutta (kolkata) once visited Puttaparthi Sai baba who materialised sacred ash for him . At once Sircar materialised 'rosogulla' ( a sweet Calcutta speciality) & gave it to him ;))
The outraged Saibaba abruptly stormed back into his antechamber !!

Nitya Bose ,

I have tried wearing a headgear , false beard , vapid all knowing smile & holding myself erect. It worked; looked very much like a convincing 'swamiji'.

Only difference being Nithy evokes less yawns than Ravishankar. The latter is utterly insipidly boring.

At 11/03/2009 3:58 AM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

Once on our way to satsang with Ravishankar, some, I am assuming, teacher of Nithyananda's gave him a flyer of their stuff telling him to send his people to their event. At the time I thought, is this a noble man who does not realize what he just asked and believes spirituality has no divisions or just a brainless idiot?

The interesting thing is it obviously did something to Ravishankar, the mega enlightened Guru. He was not himself during satsang and as soon as we got out of there, he kept looking at the flyer. The minute he went into the room, he made us go into internet and check this guy's website. And proceeded to, in a very serious, almost life or death tone, tell us this guy was a con man who was imitating him in everything.

He'd make us see his pictures and he would find some pose he would say, "see? he is imitating me, same way I smile, same background as my pictures." He would read his knowledge and say N had taken it from him: see how he just twisted these words. I say like this ..... He even went as far as saying the logo was an imitation. This boy, as he called him, was fake and just a cheap imitation of himself. It ended in him telling us to hurry and teach more before Nithyananda's people took over.

He literally, next day, made everyone in satsang teachers. None of which were ready, nor trained. "Quick quick, someone is imitating us, this is bad karma for those who will get his knowledge. We have to save them."

He was actually worried a fraud was going to take over his work, or worse, win? I thought he had knowledge. I thought he was enlightened. I think an enlightened, true guru, would have sat back and smiled. He would know that fraud has a beginning and an end. He was not worried about the karmas of people. He was afraid of the competition! Perhaps the phrase: It takes one to recognize another, applies to this case perfectly.

At least, Nithyananda's ex followers: here are the words, the confirmation by a "guru", your guy is fraud.

We'd say, a cheap imitation of another.

Maybe Nithyananda and Ravishankar should have tea together, or hold a satsang .... together .... but who would take the high seat?

At 11/03/2009 11:59 AM, Anonymous Nitya Bose said...

The other "decked up" guru is Jaggi Vasudev. He has escaped the scrutiny of many critical eyes because he knows what t speak when. On and off camera he would be saying things quite dramatically different.

His forthcoming Mahashivratri special darshan inside his Lingam shaped sanctorum will cost 100 million rupees. Three hundred people fight for 80 pax capacity space already.

Nithy and Jaggi fight it out head on these days in cornering and protecting their devotees. Nithy told his people unofficially more than once that Jaggi cannot give enlightenment as he had already crossed 40 years of age.

Jaggi and Nithy have similar strategies in driving people up the wall. Nithy is young and naive and is caught in the storm but jaggi is clever and has the strings in his control still. But for how long?

At 11/03/2009 1:10 PM, Anonymous Swami Great Googlymooglyananda said...

I'm left shaking my head in disbelief at Sri Sri's insecurity with Nithyananda supposedly "copying" his business model. Wow, just wow.

Do you know, Nithya folks said the same thing, about Sri Sri "stealing" their version of "Yoga"? Somewhere in the ether, Patanjali is going, "WTF?"

Yo, Sri Sri, perhaps in a sudden bout of amnesia you forget that you stole your entire business model from your own guru, eh? What a racket.

Maybe Nithyananda and Ravishankar should have tea together

See below (tea reference there for ya) ;^)

It would be fun if we could have cartoon style blurbs above their heads, about what they must be thinking about each other. Anyone wanna try their hand at photoshopping this:

Pot meets Kettle

At 11/03/2009 1:13 PM, Anonymous hippie said...

Sri Nithy Medhananda -

Do you have a response to Justice who gave details of LA Ashram?

Are you so delusional that you still refuse to see the criminal fraud aspects of the Nithy movement? Is this organization still base Dharma?

The organization aside, Is Nithy himself still sitting on the platform of Satya?

Your refusal to take a critical look at the movement is not devotion, it is STUPIDITY.

Does enlightenment makes you a mindless zombie?

At 11/04/2009 12:35 AM, Anonymous Anonymous said...


Recall , Ravishankar was so envious of Ammachi when many of his followers wanted to have her 'darshan' , he locked the door & started hugging everyone only to slump down exhausted sooner than expected.

Regarding Jaggi Vasudev, there were rumours his wife was murdered. Some girls died in his ashram which were called "suicides ".

Anything can be hushed up in India if you are well connected. Moreover most Indians are swayed by good English & persuasive oratory. Add to that activities like tree plantations , women empowerment , rehabilitation of prisoners , sending forth of positive vibrations , charities & donations. Heady spiritualised cocktail.

Hindu organizations & politicians delude themselves they can usurp power with the help of these charlatans. Ravishankar has been crafty enough to hobnob with politicians belonging to different parties.

When questioned , he answered he wants to " groom good politicians in all parties ".

Clash of these charlatans captured live would be unalloyed fun. Recall how Shivshankar baba & Yagavamuni literally started hitting each other on tv:))

A violent scuffle broke out between Ammachi's & Ravishankar's followers during tsunami aid distribution. Ramdev cautioned many on tv not to do sudarshan kriya as "it is not safe".

At 11/05/2009 3:40 AM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

Osho/Bhagwan Shree Rajneesh's Influence on Nithyananda

Apparently, as far as Nithyananda is concerned, Sri Sri is only a business rival. The spiritual model that Nithyananda sees as worth copying is Osho's. Nithyananda's personal library is stocked with Osho books, and he tried to hire Osho's spiritual director in 2007. In practice, Nithyananda re-bakes Osho's stories, Osho's meditations, Osho's sanysin initiation, why Nithyananda even chiseled an Osho statue as his first act of 'enlightenment'. Yes, Nithyananda has Osho envy. It seems that Nithyananda wants to even rebuild Rajneeshpuram, but we all know how that ended.

Here's some links that support this claim:

Nithyananda's Statues of Crime; An Image of Osho

Osho (Bhagwan Shree Rajneesh) Influences on Nithyananda = Osho 2.0

At 11/05/2009 1:18 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

It seems Justice had scared poor Medhananda away!

At 11/05/2009 1:45 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

Osho org went a long way before it fell. I can see Nithyananda's future bleak already.

At 11/05/2009 2:11 PM, Anonymous Who? said...

What is it about Nithyananda that creates such strongly polarized opinion, such heated discussions? Sri Sri and Amma and Ramdev don't inspire this kind of debate. That's what fascinates me.

What exactly is the psychological reason, I wonder? It goes beyong him just being charismatic, there's something deeper (no, not siddhis).

At 11/05/2009 2:18 PM, Blogger guruphiliac said...

It goes beyong him just being charismatic, there's something deeper (no, not siddhis).

It's called being a self-aggrandizing asshole. Nobody likes a braggart.

At 11/05/2009 3:19 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

Nithy's fire puja for enlightenment:

Hot Spicy Puja

At 11/05/2009 8:46 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

jody radzik said...

It's called being a self-aggrandizing asshole.

It takes one to know one, eh? [substitute aggrandizing with deprecating in your case] ;-)

At 11/05/2009 10:14 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

hippie & others ,

If you are seriously seeking genuine Teachers/Gurus for study of Vedanta the following are excellent Gurus with impeccable credentials:

Nochur Venkatraman.For those unable to attend His live discourses ,CDs/mp3s are available.
In Tamil ,English & Malayalam.

Sri.Omkarananda of Theni(Chidbavananda Ashramam). His elucidation of Kaivalya Navaneetham is simply unparallelled. Not just that. He goes about methodically starting with Tathva Bodham which is a must to familiarise oneself with certain technical terms. But only in Tamil. Absolutely no caste discrimination. Either one can stay & learn. Or buy the cds.

Sri.Paramarthananda in Chennai.Equally good. All in English.

Swami Dayananda (Arsha Vidya Gurukulam) well known respectable Teacher of Vedanta. He has structured such a methodical way of unfolding , no one would leave unenlightened. In English.

All the above Gurus stand in sharp relief from charlatans. Makes perfect sense to listen or purchase & listen for clarity.

Ofcourse , Ramana Bhagavan's writings translated into many languages.

At 11/05/2009 10:25 PM, Anonymous Blue Clown said...

What exactly is the psychological reason, I wonder? It goes beyong him just being charismatic, there's something deeper (no, not siddhis).

Yes. you are right. Nithyananda is the most notorious of the lot.

At 11/05/2009 10:40 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

Hi "Who? said.."

You are skeptical. Some of it may indeed be siddhis. Please read the "Hot Spicy Puja" link posted:

"....Sri Nithyananda, what happens when you place all those chilies in the fire ritual? Is it true that some say you can capture departed souls and use them as part of your enlisted supernatural arsenal? Oh, scary. I bet you, Sri Nithyananda, could then fake it to a lot of people that you're really 'enlightened' with all of that ghastly help....."

At 11/05/2009 10:47 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

Anon@ 3:19 ,

History does repeat itself indeed!

There were more than 70 such cults which perished owing to Aadi Shankara.

This kind of 'spicy puja' falls under blackmagic or tantric rituals.Many indian politicians are notorious for resorting to such practices. One chief minister had lots of frogs along with chillies thrown into fire.

As the saying goes , what is to fence the fence that devours the fenced??

These cults are potent fronts for money laundering of the corrupt. Including self anointed Jaggi Vasudev who is in cahoots with diabolically influential politicians.

At 11/05/2009 10:57 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

" What exactly is the psychological reason, I wonder? It goes beyong him just being charismatic, there's something deeper"

Comment posted above.

Just as weapons in custody of rogue nations invariably wreak havoc , so also certain mantras (chantings) which the conscientious would never resort to are invariably chosen by these avaricious diabolical charlatans. Such rituals & chantings are as potent as nerve gases in paralysing/disabling the intellect of the gullible/vulnerable.

At 11/06/2009 6:12 AM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

Jody must be aware of it. Nevertheless the following link is revelatory how these cultists including Jaggi Vasudev flourish.,59190

At 11/06/2009 11:06 AM, Anonymous Happyd said...

To Nitya Bose and anon at 12:35 11/4

Glad you included Jaggi in your comments. It shows how similar these scam gurus really are. They all claim they are special and have the only way to enlightenment, roping in their devotees...while they bad mouth each other and hide their darker univestigated side.

Sounds like you two have inside info on SJV? Maybe you could post more of that info in the guruphiliac forum?
There's a thread for each guru.

I predict SJV will be the next big thing, outperforming Nithy, srisri, and even osho. He's targeting the 'leadership' people- CEO's, politicians and I hear he even has a few western (well known) celebrities going to his IE and BSP recently. SJV is charismatic and cunning. Moving silently like a snake in the grass, he'll pop up and bite before we see it coming.

And I hadn't heard anything about suicides at the isha ashram. I would truly be surprised if it's true. Can anyone supply more info?

At 11/06/2009 1:21 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

A gold mine of Nity stories about Nithy gold.

Nithy Gold

And this about his slaves

Nithy Slaves

At 11/06/2009 8:26 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

Happyd ,

You are right. Jaggi is much more cunning & smart than the rest. Yes , his wife Viji had lodged a complaint against him (womanising?).But soon died under mysterious circumstances & cremated hurriedly. Her father clearly stated Jaggi had killed her filing a police complaint.

Jaggi enjoys tremendous clout with politicians. Indian police & investigative agencies are not autonomous.They are the henchmen of people in high places.Hence Jaggi & his sycophants claimed his wife Viji was given " instant samadhi ". Yes, some years ago 2 young girls died in his ashram which were termed " suicides ".

Anything & everything is possible in India. Which eventually generates apathy.I repeat , he is formidably crafty & suave. Ravishankar pales before him.

Rich industrialists (Mukesh Ambani)Microsoft's chairman in India, film producers , filmstars (Shekar kapur etc)carnatic singers,writers he has a powerful group of followers.

Charities & donations is the front to silence sceptics.Even his tree plantations turned out to be one big scam. Many despite their unethical deeds & greed are looking for instant moksha:)) Jaggis cater to their needs.

At 11/07/2009 12:45 AM, Anonymous Who? said...

You are skeptical. Some of it may indeed be siddhis. Please read the "Hot Spicy Puja" link posted:

Yes, I am skeptical of your claims regarding siddhis. Spamming the link to your blog multiple times in the comments here does not lend you any more credibility.

If you're trying to ensure that Google does not take down your blog, spamming your links here isn't going to help establish credibility in the eyes of Google.

I suggest you invest in your own domain name and move to the wordpress platform (or if you are a cheapskate, use the free platform). All professional bloggers use Wordpress.

You want high quality backlinks? Try getting Rick Ross or John Knapp at the TM free blog to link to you or endorse your efforts.

At 11/07/2009 4:35 AM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

Posting someone else's observations on Jaggi's cult:

" 1) The initial program - Isha Yoga - is pretty decent. You are taught certain sound and breath pranayams and a form of meditation.
2) You are introduced to 'live' foods and their benefits. Vegetarianism.
3) It is promoted as a non-religious, 'scientific' and open path.
4) You sign a statement that you will not disclose contents of any of their programs to anyone else.
5) You are not allowed to take any notes, record etc.,
6) It is entirely run by volunteers.

I found the following to be somewhat disturbing in retrospect:

1) Like the example of the frog placed in a waterpan slowly raising the temperature and being cooked, one is slowly drawn more and more into it.
2) You realize that it is not totally scientific, non-religious and open. You should be 'willing' and 'surrender'.
3) You are drawn into more and more deeper practices changing every aspect of your belief system.
4) Eventually you get to see scenes that might have repelled you during the initial days, but you have been conditioned not to question them. You are told not to 'seek' any experiences, triggering you to actively seek these experiences.
5) Volunteerism takes on a new meaning, volunteering for the movement, and to increase enrollment ".

At 11/07/2009 2:43 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

Any idea to report that these scam organizations are abusing their exempt status status?

At 11/07/2009 11:04 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

This is what megalomaniac jaggi says:-

" “Now, if you think logically, it seems impossible that there is no difference between the Dhyanalinga and me. Even if you have experienced the Dhyanalinga in some way for a moment, it still sounds absolutely egoistic for me to say this; but really, there’s no difference. If you don’t like it, I can’t help it. Slowly you will see, as the days pass, I won’t be interested in keeping up any façade for anybody’s sake. We have done enough of that in order to bring about the necessary goodwill and understanding into people so that they could become receptive enough. We don’t have to continue doing that for a lifetime. Those who are too logical and whose ability to live life is very much on the surface may fall off. I don’t want them to fall off, but they may, because I am too blunt. It’s all right. This is how it is. ”

At 11/07/2009 11:04 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

Following are the opinions of those who have been associated with isha cult for a considerable period:-

" To me, Isha is nothing more than one more dishonest insititution making use of human nature to enslave them....It is obvious that the cult that it truly is, is showing its true colors now that they have a sizeable following. In the early days the message was watered down to make it easier to spread and recruit more people. It truly is an amazing strategy and no matter what percentage of their revenue they use for charity work, its still is a questionable entity - IMHO illegal ".

Another sceptic:-

" Isha Yoga and Jaggi Vasudev seem to have really hit prime time. At least a good 20% of my circle (comprising friends and safe-distance relatives) seem to have undergone the basic course. Vikatan, Vijay TV, Youtube, and a growing array of celebrity endorsements right from Anuradha Ramanan to Ravi Venkatesan of Microsoft India have contributed in no small measure to Jaggi’s popularity.

However, there are a few things deserving attention.
The economics angle of this program is mind boggling. They charge Rs.900 per person for the 7 day course. They handle a combined strength of 100 folks – morning+evening for the week’s class. The trainer who taught this program told me there are about 50-100 classes per month in Tamil Nadu alone. Isha does not pay anything for the volunteers. All the food and boarding expenses of the trainers are borne by the volunteers themselves. They charge about $250 USD in US for the same class (3-4 days duration). Anyone who does basic math will know that’s a lot of revenue and we get a receipt for donation, and not fees. Is that a way to avoid the tax man? So what happens with all this donation money? Enter programs like rural rejuvenation, Isha Vidya, etc.

I do not see the necessity for trusts like Isha Foundation get into activities like education, free medical programmes, tree plantations etc. Why can’t they just stick to what they do best? All these peripheral activities just makes the whole thing a big enterprise with a global brand. This is not their core competency. I am too cynical to believe in all this fancy social service themes of religious trusts. For now, thanks but no thanks.

One other USP of Jaggi Vasudev seems to be his way to address one’s logical, rational mind in his speeches. But as you get deeper into the course, he asks us to suspend our critical, rational thought process so that we can experience unlimited bliss in a totally different plane. Thanks but no thanks again. I think life has been undeservingly kind to me and I am very happy with my life. And this much maligned rational, cause and effect thinking is what has kept me live and kicking for the past 30 odd years.

The trainer resorts to statements like ‘It is our privilege to live in the times of Gurus like Sathguru’. Outsiders like me should say that I suppose. Self-proclaiming as Sathguru is like my neighborhood sweetshop calling himself ‘Original Nellai Lala’ sweets. There is also this in-class marketing of Jaggi’s books, Rudraksha etc. The more a guru talks or writes, the more likely he is to contradict himself is my general rule of thumb.

The reactions by hardcore Isha/Jaggi Vasudev volunteers and fans over anything even slightly negative on Jaggi and the foundation is something really worth thinking about too. It is important to have open, candid dialogues for any healthy organization to survive and evolve in the long run. It is only cults who discourage any form of criticisms and dialogue.’s better for all concerned to retain their perspective and objectivity as much as possible... There is an entire world going berserk at the very mention of Jaggi Vasudev and the ensuing bliss.

‘What we learn from history is that we don’t learn from history’ is a Disraeli quote I always liked ".

At 11/07/2009 11:10 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

At 11/08/2009 2:05 AM, Anonymous hippie said...

Wow, they all so similar! Nithy, Jaggi, SSRS. All use unpaid volunteers to market and run their programs. Yet change outrageous fees for these programs.

The volunteers not only volunteer their time, they even pay handsomely for the training to become volunteers.

On top of it all, these scam business tax-exempt!

A very profitable business model indeed.

At 11/08/2009 2:24 AM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

Sir Richard Burton writing of the corrupt sufism (Tassawuf) of Sindh.

"To the Pirs (religious superiors) great advantages accrued. Of these individuals there are between fifty and sixty in Sindh, most of whom can trace their geneologies up to the Prophet, and the principal saints that succeeded him. Under our government they have of course lost the right of flogging and beheading their followers so that their power now depends principally upon the ignorance and superstition of the populace. As they are usually the vile descendants of some ancestor celebrated for virtue of learning, they think it necessary to keep up appearances; yet their garb of goodness is a very flimsy one. The Pir who calls himself a fakir, or beggar, will probably maintain a establishment of a hundred servants, and as many horses; it is sufficient for him occasionally to show a camel hair vest under his garments, and his followers will excuse his ostentation. The vanity of the disciples induces them to believe in, and to vaunt, the supernatual powers of their superior; his being able to work miracles and to visit heaven gives them additional importance. Timidity of disposition on the part of the followers favours the imposture in no small degree....
In a pecuniary point of view, the position of the Pir is an enviable one. He levies a tax of from one-eight to one half upon the income and produce of his followers, who are too timid to defraud the saint, and not unfrequently make him expensive presents when any unexpected stroke of good fortune, attributed to his intercession, enables them to do so. It is not too much to say, that some few of the chief Pirs could, by good management, command an annual income of 30,000l. Besides emolument, these holy men enjoyed and enjoy the power of comitting any villany, upon the principle that from the pure nothing but what is pure can proceed. Their excuses are ingenious. To vindicate luxury and polygamy, they quote the cases of king Solomon and King David among prophets, Abd el Kadir and Baha el Din among saints. Celibacy, continence, penance and religious disciline are dispensed with after they arrive at a certain pitch of hoiness....
The effects of Tassawuf upon the people in general can easily be conceived. The disciples sink capital in a speculation that can never pay in this world; and besides their monetary loss, they throw away all chance of moral improvement. It would be impossible for a government of strangers to check the system by active measures, as their efforts would only increase it's evils. The safest plan is to do away, as much as is possible, with the political importance of the Pirs, and to oppose such superstitions by the diffusion of knowledge."

At 11/08/2009 8:21 AM, Blogger Prairie Princess said...

So this Jaggi..are you sure he and sri sri didn't get the same spiritual playbook? Everything that was said about Jaggi's organization could be said about sri sri..except I don't think he killed any "wives".

At 11/10/2009 7:41 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

Hi Jody, these folks have updated details almost everyday:

May be they can be linked under your Liked catagory. Nithy is a very dangerous man.

At 11/11/2009 10:31 PM, Anonymous h said...

I think it's time to go under cover with hidden cameras to these organizations.

It seems there are more similarites than not.
From what Ive read about the different gurus, each:

1) have a set of group rules they expect the followers to adopt and self impose
2) are charismatic leaders who self proclaim enlightenment
3) have a drive to recruit as many people (especially westerners) into their organization as possible. Recruitment is often labeled as sadhana, or spiritual practice to help the devotee
4) enjoy tax-exempt status- hidden behind charitable works without any proof where the donations go
5) insist upon dropping the mind and ego with full surrender to the leader
6) brag about their devotees spiritual progress, as if in a marketing campaign for more souls
7) employ chanting to Hindu deities in their meditation practices
8) employ questionable breathing techniques, usually some form of hyperventilation, inducing mental foginess mistaken as altered level of consciousness
9) use contracts, or fear, to ensure their meditation techniques are kept secret from the outside world
10) charge money for programs while insisting they do charity work for the less fortunate. If someone can not afford to pay for the program, they are not allowed in
11) encourage followers to share their experiences- a form of group control
12) have their own group lingo or slang terms
13) perform rituals, chants and devotional songs to not only deities, but to the guru him/herself
14) questions regarding the group or leader are not allowed
15) devotees all insist that their master is the true master and has the only path to enlightenment. These devotees use vague personal experiential stories as proof.
16) devotees believe and accept everything the guru says
17) donations encouraged. A way of giving back to the guru who has given so much to the devotee.
18) guru quite pleasant and jovial with the newcomers. Yet easily angered and volatile in closed quarters or with the inside group.
19) Group meditation practices, clothing styles, food choices, music, books, knick-knacks, etc, gives the group cohesion. Establishes an us vs. them dynamic.
20) fictitious anecdotes of the leader to ensure devotees see him as holier than them. Stories are based in myth and beliefs with no way to prove they are true.
21) have crazed devotees that worship them
22) encourage (or don't discourage) families to break up to persue spiritual advancement under the guru
23) instill a form of fear to discourage devotees from abandoning the guru/group. The devotee is basically told that to abandon the group means losing all his/her spiritual progress made under the guru.
24) have some form of meditation on the guru or his photo
25) start with an affordable entry level form of meditation practice. Benefits of which are usually peace and health
26) insist on additional meditation levels for spiritual advancement- often with higher costs
27) volunteerism is considered spiritual practice and often costs money to volunteer
28) have lots of stories of enlightened devotees, but you never seem to meet one.
29) have ties to politicians, high ranking officials and authorities. Celebrities are a bonus.
30) put followers through intense physical, emotional and mental challenges (ie, sitting in painful positions for extended time, emotional sharing with strangers, fancy words with quick witted tongue), thereby lowering normal judgment process.

Looks like the guru playbook is quite successful.

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At 12/01/2009 8:04 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

Tony here...

I say Nithyananda is promoting the real deal. I say he is indeed real. I also wonder about where the money is being applied and who is benefiting. NO one, not even a gurn can grant another enlightenment. One must cumalitively apply a sense of awarenenss to a set of ethics around doing no harm and eventually the patterns of darkness and harming thoughts/behavior drop after some time. There is no instant enlightenmen. I say all these comments are politically motivated and come from a place of fear. Each and every one of you can look within your heart and report your experiences. There is much judgement and criticism. Did the Jews do the same to Jesus? Yes, stick to the message and apply the priniciples for some time that Nithyananda is speaking too. He speaks of loving kindness and gentleness, a softer, sharing world. So what if the organization charges for workshops, look at the organization's mission and discern whether or not you choose to contribute to the organization. I have carefully discerned where my money goes and it is not solely based on the guru but on the entire organization. Nithyananda is a new dude and this is a very raw and new organization with much to grow through and learn from...give them a break please....this country and most of the world needs to wake up to the insanities it has adopted, pollution, greed, worshipping to dollar, etc....get out of dualistic thinking of fear and judgment. Open your hearts to one another, I did not say open your pocketbooks..:)

At 12/02/2009 10:07 PM, Anonymous hippie said...

Hi Tony,

Okay, organizations need money. However, Nithy is charging an outrageous amount of money ($6000 - $8000 USD ) for enlightenment. something he cannot deliver. This is FRAUD! Pure and simple.

He talks of a more sharing world. He preaches some ideal but he does the opposite.

At 1/01/2010 12:13 PM, Anonymous Ananda-en-yur-face said...

Wow, even more online trouble for Mr. Nithyanada. Check out the new blog:

Fairy Tales of Paramahamsa Nithyananda

He'll be going into deep samadhi on his so-called 'jayanti' (which is today). Let him have some rest.

At 1/01/2010 6:25 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

Well well well....looks like yet another website has popped up to kick golden boy in the rear!

Apparently it is Golden Boy's "birthday"....who knows if it really is or not based on his factual inconsistencies. But anyways, looks like Nithyananda Fairy Tales has dedicated this site to him on his birthday :-)

At 1/03/2010 3:50 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

One more anti-Nithyananda site is up now. Check it out:

Nithyananda Fairy Tales


At 3/04/2010 2:10 AM, Blogger Thegamekreacher said...

@ nithya bose

"His forthcoming Mahashivratri special darshan inside his Lingam shaped sanctorum will cost 100 million rupees. Three hundred people fight for 80 pax capacity space already"


i was was charged 500's plain nonsense.Please clarify before saying

At 3/08/2010 2:58 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

Quoted from a statement in the Austin American Statesman by President of JKP Barsana Dham - Diwakari:

"I am writing to provide some context to your article about Swami Prakashanand Saraswati (Shree Swamiji), a globally recognized spiritual leader who established Barsana Dham, one of the largest Hindu institutions in the United States".

"Shree Swamiji oversees the construction and operation of charitable hospitals in India"...

and at another place on your website:

"Barsana Dham was therefore grateful when a state district court judge returned Shree Swamiji’s U.S. passport, thereby allowing him to carry on his religious and charitable work abroad".

President Diwakari - ask Swami what to say now? Who is responsible for the dead children and women who were killed in the jkp ashram in pratapgarh when the gate fell down and crushed them? The reports say the construction of the gate was faulty.

Why were so many of the injured sent to hospitals elsewhere in the district? The small charitable hospital is not really a hospital is it? Is it more of a smaller clinic? Why did it take so long for the greiving villagers to recover their dead relatives?

Those were poor hungry villagers trying to get a token gift from the opulent and ostentatious temple ashram complex (with an adjoining construction site where an even larger meditation hall is under construction). How big was the hospital and how big is the temple with the expensive statue of the guru installed in it?

Ask yourself and ask Swami then speak The Truth...

At 3/10/2010 4:46 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said... - Sadhus revolt against Nithyananda

Can someone pls translate to English and post? Thx

At 5/21/2011 4:16 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

After Nityananda Sadhguru Jaggi Vasudev Has Been Proved a False guru. check this


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