Thursday, February 28, 2008

Sai Haut Ma Maa

File under: Gurubusting, Hands Where They Don't Belong and The Siddhi of PR

Sai Maa Lakshmi Devi, acolyte of the child-abusing avatard, Sai Baba, appears to be just another devi-lady playing space-mommy for the infantile– but this time with a sexy little twist! Thanks to a kind reader's attention, it turns out this Lakshmi is giving more than just the hope of good luck and wealth:
These were some of the questions that aroused in me. In the same time I was questioning my path as Brahmachari. For me, maybe the hardest part was to follow this path without my Guru being a role model. In fact, traveling all these years with Sai Maa, I've got to witness a being that is enjoying life ecstatically with all her senses. Sai Maa never tried to renounce life. More then that, you might be surprised to know that Sai Maa was having sexual relationships with some of her closest students! And it didn't really matter to her that some of them were married and had families.

It is a very deep moral issue, if it is OK for a Guru to sleep with his/her students. I am not here to judge what is right and what is wrong. I feel that some of those beings were deeply damaged by it, but they might also gain from it. God will judge. Nevertheless, it is very strange when a Guru asks her students to be brahmacharies, saying that it is the highest path, and being revered by the highest priests in India, while she sleeps with her students. Maybe a being in her state of consciousness is beyond such minor things that we simple humans call values…
Sounds like someone was a little jealous they weren't getting theirs out of the honey pot. He's better off without it. Sai Maa appears the picture of a obnoxiously authoritarian fauxru living the high life as she plies her trade, like her own guru and most of the other big-time players plaguing the planet at the moment.

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At 2/28/2008 10:24 AM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

I went to a series of events in NY with Marianne Williamson and Sai Maa was there with her at one of them. Williamson seems to revere her as her teacher. She's an intelligent woman...WTF?

Sai Maa's accompanying devotees made a big fuss about her entrance, setting the stage for it by telling us to be still and silent in our seats. Sai Zsaa Zsaa came prancing in slowly as if on some guru-runway. She was dressed to the nines, bejeweled. She's an attractive woman and all the prep work made for a "mystical" experience. My friends were swooning left and right.

If I had that kind of introduction, lighting, and couture, people would swoon over me too. Heck, they'd swoon over Red Skelton as Klemm Kadiddlehopper.

 
At 2/28/2008 10:44 AM, Blogger jody said...

WTF?

Looks like Williamson is just another space-mommy suck up.

 
At 2/28/2008 4:34 PM, Blogger semblance said...

hi jody, been a while, my usual stories..

This one is compelling item. The one major thing I see totally missing, in her rounded off face is wisdom. May be the touch of golden weeds is missing. She needs to sit and sniff the midnight bonfire of the palmful weeds. Those dumb eyes need to glisten a bit and smile at ends..she must learn to wake up well before she starts the make up...

 
At 2/28/2008 5:42 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

Damn I never got to get sexy with Gurumayi, maybe I have a chance with Saimayi,
How can I join her entourage?

gnoman

 
At 2/28/2008 8:50 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

Does she do chicks?

 
At 2/29/2008 1:18 AM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

"And she's not even that hot"

Nope.I don't agree with this. I can sense a bitchy kind of sensuality in her. I won't mind doing her.

 
At 2/29/2008 1:50 AM, Blogger gregory said...

the consistent thread of almost all criticisms of gurus can give a great insight into what enlightenment is

the divine coexists with the human, universal with the individual, moksha with psychological conditioning, truth with hypocrisy...

and it can be no other way

the great thing for us, knowing this allows us to relax, accept ourselves, and not try to be perfect... just find the self and stay in this, we will be as weird as we are, and happy, impersonally

this would be a good discussion topic i think

all gurus have fucked up parts, and thank god enlightenment doesnt depend on being perfect. heck, you can be a liar and a hypocrite and sexual too, and still know that you are really the self

there are no standards

 
At 2/29/2008 4:02 AM, Blogger yomamma said...

Hey i think she looks molto fierce in her shiva drag, check it! That would be the moo-moo for me.
http://www.HumanityInUnity.org/HIU/India/News-Photos/index.cfm

Yomammas rules for ghouls, i mean Gurus sez, As long as you dally with those with less power you, will be beyond reproach.
While doing your advaita thing always wear a matronly hat and matching pastels. it makes you more dignified as you cull the crowd for conquests.

Hey wear do these Guru girls get off being such hyper bitches? Is Joan Collins a Deity i didn't know about?

 
At 2/29/2008 7:49 AM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

>>>"
all gurus have fucked up parts"<<<<


LOL! Oh yeah! We ALL know about those "fucked up parts"...snicker. What I love the best is the "I'm celibate!..why aren't YOU!?" rap and then the smarmy backroom handjobs, blowjobs, "tantric" explorations and other "guruseva". Why won't it surprise me when this Ma (if outed) describes herself as giving "advanced tantric initiation". It's SO much more "powerful" coming from Devi.... lol.
You can be "sexual"; you can be a "hypocrite"; you can be a liar; you can be a mass murderer; you can be the worst piece of crud that the Great Awakeness ever manifested as him/her/itself...I mean, it's ALL good and it's all "god". Idi Amin? Ramana Maharshi? what's the big diff? just 2 sides of the same coin, right? It's all "good". We're all the "self"..if we weren't, we wouldn't be here. So folks, don't worry if this Ma is fucking her "disciples" in the back room (all the while dressed up like some dollar store gurumayi). If she "knows" she's the "self", what's the harm? As for her "disciples". If they are so jada that they think a guru follows dharma...well, they just "had to learn that lesson". No biggie.
Here's to Chogyam Trungpa Rinpoche. At least he "did it in the road" for all to see.

seen too much (yeah, including Trungpa)

 
At 2/29/2008 8:18 AM, Anonymous Betty said...

greg said...there are no standards...

When there are no standards, I choose not to need or heed them. If the don't have even ordinary concern for their students, fuck 'em.

 
At 2/29/2008 8:29 AM, Blogger CHUCK said...

Does she do mules? If so, would it be side saddle or western style?

 
At 2/29/2008 8:54 AM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

Ow! I went to the website of Shree Maaaaa 1million and 8 rudraksha Many-handed Mahamandaleshwari (some of those hands in your pockets or elsewhere on your body)Mondo Lakshmi SriJi Mahariniji, Beloved disciple of the Oh so Wonderful sri gazillion rudraksha, many sexual conquesting (and strangely Ardhanarisvara-esque)Afro Sai Baba...now my Sahasrar is prickling like somebody put electrodes on my head. Does this mean she's REAL???? I mean, she MUST be a real authentic really real realized being, right? or else why would I be seeing those flashing lights? Oh, wait a minute, I think it's the sun reflecting off my computer screen. Ow, my head hurts! Bad Maaa, Bad Maaa...lol

seen too mucho

 
At 2/29/2008 3:44 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

all gurus have fucked up parts, and thank god enlightenment doesnt depend on being perfect. heck, you can be a liar and a hypocrite and sexual too, and still know that you are really the self

Follow link.
Observe brain scan diagrams.
Notice how only parts of brain affected.
Does rest of brain change- 'fucked up parts'?

http://www.andrewnewberg.com/research.asp

 
At 2/29/2008 3:51 PM, Blogger jody said...

Does rest of brain change- 'fucked up parts'?

First off, these scans show a brain during meditation. Regardless of what you might want to believe, a guru's brain is not in a persistent state of meditation. Second, "fucked up parts" is referring to personality. Many gurus would appear to have personality disorders. These are some of the "parts" the commenter was talking about, not neurological structures in the brain.

 
At 2/29/2008 6:58 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

Well, I didn't say that a guru is in constant meditation. I don't know if every one is or isn't.

Yes, the fucked up parts refer to the personality. The personality is reflected in the brain tissue. From looking at scans like these, as a layman, it looks as evidence that whatever spiritual states a guru or anyone else can find, it doesn't necessarily change all the personal habits of a spiritual teacher, or pupil.
I've followed the practices laid out by a guru, and I realised that he knew what he was talking about when describing spiritual states and experiences. I also realise that he talked a load of old rubbish too.
When you say that the commentator referred to personality, I agree, but I know that personality and brain structure are linked. I'm just backing it up with more evidence.
If someone had a brain tumor that was making them act like a madman, it's maybe still possible to use meditation to do with his brain what is shown in the scans.
And if a guru had a personality disorder that was linked to retarded development of the brain for whatever reason, it seems reasonable to think it's possible to still access those states without the personality problems dissapearing.

Don't you think?

Wether it's possible to be in a state of meditation all the time, I don't know.

I only mention this to back up what appears to be the purpose of your blog, which is to pop the balloon of those who pretend to be and believe in perfect gurus.

Short sharp posts maybe don't serve that purpose too well.

 
At 2/29/2008 10:40 PM, Blogger jody said...

if a guru had a personality disorder that was linked to retarded development of the brain for whatever reason, it seems reasonable to think it's possible to still access those states without the personality problems dissapearing.

Don't you think?


I think realization is something almost trans-neurological, but maybe not completely. There's certainly been a parade of wackadoo spiritual teachers in the world. They couldn't all be completely deluded.

I only mention this to back up what appears to be the purpose of your blog, which is to pop the balloon of those who pretend to be and believe in perfect gurus.

Pretty much. I also like to point out myth and superstition in so-called nondual teachings.

Short sharp posts maybe don't serve that purpose too well.

Perhaps, but they're quick and easy. I get to make a point or two and hopefully get some laughs.

 
At 3/01/2008 1:40 AM, Blogger gregory said...

I think realization is something almost trans-neurological, but maybe not completely.

i like thhis quote from jody, something to think about

"my kingdom is not of this world" is how j.c. supposedly said it

 
At 3/01/2008 11:16 AM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

When you talk about trans neurological, I'm sure you mean all the emphasis on inner space and emptiness in religious and spiritual ways. Certainly if you start to practise closing your eyes and looking at inner space you're going to lose touch with the world of the senses and all the science that goes with it, if you want to shift your attention away from it.
In an expanded state of being, in which the perception of oneself is not limited to being an individual, then how can one say that one is neurological? Let's say you go out into the country and meditate and the distinction between you and the trees disappears, how can you say that is an effect of your neurons when you are not you anymore? But I think it would be fair to say that
you are still in the world of matter in that situation, and if you took away the neurons involved in vision you wouldn't be one with the trees anymore, except by other senses. Keep taking the senses away and what are you left with?

I know there are probably sanskrit or greek terms to describe all this, but I don't know them.

Not having a sense of sight doesn't neccesarily stop someone from understanding science though, as there are blind scientists, like this fella...

http://www.eyeway.org/inspire/ac-kcullers.htm

 
At 3/01/2008 11:22 AM, Blogger jody said...

When you talk about trans neurological, I'm sure you mean all the emphasis on inner space and emptiness in religious and spiritual ways.

What I mean is that realization, that inner recognition that seems to occur in some folks, is something that is always on. The recognition doesn't turn it on, it only recognizes in a direct, experiential way that it is on. So, it's not adding anything, it's just seeing what's there. That seeing could be thought of as an addition, and that's the tiny little bit of it that I'd say might be neurological as opposed to transneurological. But I doubt it's anything a crude brain scan is going to be able to see.

 
At 3/02/2008 8:41 AM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

We could ask someone like Newberg what they think.

 
At 3/02/2008 6:24 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

'all gurus have fucked up parts, and thank god enlightenment doesnt depend on being perfect. heck, you can be a liar and a hypocrite and sexual too, and still know that you are really the self

there are no standards'

You take that attitude and your one step away from justifying whatever you do in the name of the search for God.

I've seen it. When a guru starts to say that anything is justified for the divine path, watch out, because he might be justifying what he does to you.

How are you going to be able to tell if your guru is genuine in saying that anything goes in the search for the self, or wether he just has a psychopathic personality with no restraint, conscience or empathy?
That, of course, pretty much goes for all religions and organisations.

 
At 3/03/2008 8:39 AM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

Funny how not a single devotee of this woman has written to defend her.

 
At 3/03/2008 9:00 AM, Blogger jody said...

Funny how not a single devotee of this woman has written to defend her.

Actually, that is the best course of action her org can take. Whether it's actually true or not (I happen to believe it is,) defending herself in public and semi-public forums like this one would not establish any innocence, it would only increase her exposure on the matter.

Maaaaaaaaaaa's best course of action is to take none and hope that it dies out on its own. Anything posted in her defense will only fan the flames as much as anything critical of her.

 
At 3/06/2008 3:16 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

After buying property at her place in Colorado, they don't have any money left for an internet connection, maybe, so they don't see these posts :-))

Baaaa Maaaa is extremely good at her game, sleezy though it might be.

 
At 3/11/2008 3:33 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

My friend did buy some in Crestone

 
At 3/28/2008 10:08 PM, Anonymous sean said...

It is strange how so many people act as parrots and repeat falsities uttered by others. Yes, everyone seems to want to get on the bandwagon. Has anyone actually MET Sai Maa here? I have. She is very pure. Her disciples are very beautiful beings as well.

It takes time to understand the spiritual realm. All masters are scoffed at by fools who know nothing of spiritual truth. All people that say things against masters are beings who believe only in the material world. Let me tell you, there is MORE than the material world. There is a whole realm of light and joy that is inaccessible to the narrow-minded and impure.

To say that she engages in sexual misconduct and things of that nature is completely ungrounded, even as the accusations against Sai Baba remain unproven. There is no substance to such accusations... Do some investigating for yourself instead of acting like a mindless idiot. peace and light

 
At 3/29/2008 10:41 AM, Blogger jody said...

It is strange how so many people act as parrots and repeat falsities uttered by others.

And it's utterly predicable that you'd be here parroting a very weak defense for your high-life-living guru.

Has anyone actually MET Sai Maa here? I have. She is very pure. Her disciples are very beautiful beings as well.

Yes, that's how it's always going to appear after you've drank a few gallons of the Kool-Aid.

It takes time to understand the spiritual realm.

And a little more time to understand that the so-called "spiritual realm" of some gurus is quite full of hypocrisy.

All masters are scoffed at by fools who know nothing of spiritual truth.

Including all of the fools following a so-called master like Sri Maa.

All people that say things against masters are beings who believe only in the material world.

Or know that some of these "masters" are raping Vedantic truths in their efforts to present themselves as "masters."

There is a whole realm of light and joy that is inaccessible to the narrow-minded and impure.

Until they drown in the Kool-Aid, right?

To say that she engages in sexual misconduct and things of that nature is completely ungrounded

Not according to the guy who posted the expose. But like all good Kool-Aided devotees, the solution to the dissonance of finding out your guru is a fraud is to drink more Kool-Aid and attack the person who exposed the fraud.

even as the accusations against Sai Baba remain unproven.

Innocence is on sale in India, and that fat pedophile has lots of cash.

There is no substance to such accusations... Do some investigating for yourself instead of acting like a mindless idiot.

That's why we're here, to investigate gurus and be seen as a mindless idiot... by mindless idiots.

peace and light

Nice passive-aggressive touch.

 
At 4/09/2008 10:30 PM, Anonymous sean said...

Let me start off by saying that Sai Maa is not my guru. I am only stating my observations from meeting her and witnessing her energetically.

You are right, Jody, that there are ALOT of people out there that "rape" vedanta, but there is a non-physical occurrence that is experienced when you are in the presence of true masters. This non-physical interaction cannot be defined or explained using logic, because it is beyond what the physical organism can comprehend. It takes soul-vision to experience it, and that has to be remembered. Everyone has soul-vision. Now, Sai Maa can communicate on that level, and I have felt non-physical (in the modern sense of the word) energy flowing to all parts of my body when merely speaking to her. All these accusations against her are shots in the dark.

High-life-living? Of course! One of her main messages is that life is wonderful and should be enjoyed in purity. In all the great religious texts, it is said that a true devotee of God will never lack, and will have abundance of everything. Please remember that most, if not all, of the beautiful jewelry and clothing Sai Maa wears have been gifted to her by her devotees. Why should a spiritual master be dirty, with greasy hair, and poverty-stricken? Why can't a spiritual master be beautiful and elegant and clean?

Let it be understood that I don't drink Kool Aid. That stuff is poison. I think you are just trying to dismiss everything I say, and trying to say something to make yourself laugh. You didn't use your intelligence to balance or weigh what I said most of the time, you only brought up Kool-Aid, which really makes no sense.
Anyways, much blessings to you. Peace.

 
At 4/09/2008 10:55 PM, Blogger jody said...

there is a non-physical occurrence that is experienced when you are in the presence of true masters.

It's more like you have an idea there is a presence, so you generate feelings to fill your expectation.

This non-physical interaction cannot be defined or explained using logic, because it is beyond what the physical organism can comprehend.

You got the not logical part right.

It takes soul-vision to experience it,

The soul only has eyes for itself, completely apart from any person, place or thing.

Everyone has soul-vision.

Everyone is the same nondual truth real and flimflamming gurus are.

Now, Sai Maa can communicate on that level, and I have felt non-physical (in the modern sense of the word) energy flowing to all parts of my body when merely speaking to her.

Just because you have a Goddess fetish combined with a somewhat overactive imagination doesn't mean you've actually felt anything other than your own subjective generation.

Why can't a spiritual master be beautiful and elegant and clean?

She's a master, it's just not for being spiritual. I reckon she is little more than a common criminal. A fauxru who learned her con from a master (con) and now she's pimping it in Colorado, surfing on being adored and enjoying the shower of gifts from her marks.

I don't drink Kool Aid.

You don't have to drink it. You are full to the tips of your toes with the stuff.

 
At 9/19/2008 6:08 AM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

I kissed Sai Maa and I liked it... the taste of her Guru Chapstick...I kissed Sai Maa just to try it... I hope Sai Baba don't mind it...

 
At 10/14/2008 12:41 AM, Anonymous Paul F Six said...

Those who are sure of themselves give those selves wholly to others. Those who are insecure create dualities where they did not exist, feeding the ego by means of adding to one's comforting concept of self at the expense of separately existing entities.

Even if these gurus were raping me, I would not be trying to take some level of faith away from everybody on the internet. There is something morally unjust about attacking somebody, especially for attacking people. If you had any basis for your argument (jody) that was objectively true, you would have not only have mentioned it here (in one of your many posts in which you chose only the unsubstantiated claims from other people's posts to form your own paraphrased denial versions of them), but would have taken a different approach entirely to freeing people's minds from the guru-wash.

If you are so wise, I suggest you hit the trails trying to keep your brothers' and sisters' asses out of the ashrams and into politics.

I would like to be clear that I am not defending any guru, I do not personally know any. I also do not intend to attack your position, judy - I am simply confused by the seemingly contradictory method of making a point that is the words that have moved from your brain to the screen in front of me. I think it is important to look at everything from an outside perspective, leaving our preconceptions aside and allowing truth to unfold. No thing should affect us deeply unless it is the meta-programming that we do to ourselves during reflection upon conscious sensation- including concepts and ideas that are sensed by our minds. This is the only way to know truth in one's self, and the relationship between this truth and all experience.

I can imagine though, if I were to come to a great understanding of life and of thinking, that I would do my damnedest to spread that understanding into the lives of anyone that would be changed by it.

I have had almost all of these thoughts in some way or another, from both sides of this argument. I could never come to truth that I could hold onto. I could never find an understanding which I could clearly write down and show to everyone. Having given all of this up, I find the mysteries of the universe being revealed slowly but surely the more I pay attention to my conscious process. We must be wary of our unaware thought process, it will lead us into a lion's den when we should have noticed the cubs playing outside.

The new physics and the application of the understanding of relativity will change the way we think of ourselves and of the concept of god. you are mostly empty space, and that which is suspended in it is constantly vibrating and aligned in a certain fashion. Nothing is "solid" and all material things are energy existing at different frequencies, one of which being that which creates this third dimension.

 
At 10/14/2008 9:18 AM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

Without knowing much about Sai Maa, I attended a week long workshop with her and Mary Sise, Past President of ACEP (The Association for Comprehensive Energy Psychology). I found Sai Maa to be a powerful and beloved woman as well as a gifted therapist with astounding energy. I felt energetically and personally transformed by the experience. She has a gift for helping people release long-held issues of anger, fear, resentment, attachment, etc., and replacing these with a positive, loving and energetic outlook. Additionally, her organization has humanitarian projects all over the globe.kc

 
At 10/14/2008 11:14 AM, Blogger jody said...

She has a gift for helping people release long-held issues of anger, fear, resentment, attachment, etc., and replacing these with a positive, loving and energetic outlook

One of the strange and wonderful facts of life is that the very best and the very worst of gurus are no different in their function as placebos.

 
At 10/15/2008 8:22 PM, Blogger jody said...

Even if these gurus were raping me, I would not be trying to take some level of faith away from everybody on the internet.

I'm quite sure that 99.999999999999999% percent of the internet folks' faith will remain intact.

There is something morally unjust about attacking somebody, especially for attacking people.

There is a moral imperative to cut through the delusion promulgated by these people.

If you had any basis for your argument (jody)... would have taken a different approach entirely to freeing people's minds from the guru-wash.

The basis is sound, were you to have ears to hear it, but the delivery is perhaps a function of some maladjustment on my part.

I suggest you hit the trails trying to keep your brothers' and sisters' asses out of the ashrams and into politics.

I have no reason to do either. Folks are going to go to who they want to see, and they are going to have no problem believing their guru is magic, and that belief is going to manifest as various kinds of sensate experience that is going to get interpreted as "spiritual" phenomena.

I think it is important to look at everything from an outside perspective, leaving our preconceptions aside and allowing truth to unfold.

And I am impelled to point out how ideas about enlightenment spread by these "magic" gurus—whether in their words or the words of their devotees—are some obvious fetters to coming to see that which has always existed within us, as us.

This is the only way to know truth in one's self, and the relationship between this truth and all experience.

What constitutes an "only way" for you is noted.

I would do my damnedest to spread that understanding into the lives of anyone that would be changed by it.

I wouldn't count this blog as doing my "damnedest," but I am trying to share something apparent to me.

We must be wary of our unaware thought process, it will lead us into a lion's den

We are already deep in the lion's belly. Our unaware thought process is completely and utterly hardwired in us, and makes up the lion's share of who we are as people. See "Philosophy in the Flesh" by George Lakoff.

The new physics and the application of the understanding of relativity will change the way we think of ourselves and of the concept of god.

New Age™ pipe dream noted. Did you want some flute-playing dubbed-in here?

Nothing is "solid" and all material things are energy existing at different frequencies

So? It has no more to do with your own nondual self than my dog's ass.

Seriously. Get your head out of the clouds. It's not about space and time, or how atoms operate, or anything at all that you can see, hear, feel, touch, taste, intuit, or notice with any other undiscovered sense we might have. It's here, now, closer than our own breath, as if it were sitting on the tip of your nose. There's no where to go, and while time may pass between the moment you begin looking and moment you might see, you will never get any closer to the truth than you already are right now.

 
At 5/16/2010 7:02 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

I went to an event in NYC 2 yrs ago. I was looking forward to meeting this guru that was held in such high esteem by someone I knew and trusted.
When the small group I was with got there, I was disappointed that Sai Maa did not show up on time...she was an hour late. We were instructed to close our eyes and they did a meditation...during this time, Sai Maa arrived and spoke to the audience who was instructed to keep eyes closed. I peeked..making sure it was really her!

She spoke for about an hour and then left. We then broke for lunch and 'personal sessions'

We came back and an hour and a half passed before Sai Maa made another enterence...she'd had time to go change into another outfit...no idea where she had been and why she didn't attend the whole event that I paid a lot of money for.

She spent a large amount of that time singing and chanting. Then asked people to stand and talk about their 'experience'... I didn't stand because so far there was no experience except my driving into NYC for the first time!

One young woman stood and went to ask a question but was told NO QUESTIONS by Sai Maa.. she had to rephrase her question into a statement of experience. After this...more singing and chanting... and then it was over. Sai Maa left during the singing and people were swaying and swooning yelling out "We Love you Maa" ...okay then

I felt the whole thing to be a sham. I am amazed that my otherwise intelligent friend is so taken with this woman...maybe she gets a better 'show' during the week long programs she goes to.

 
At 2/08/2014 2:54 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

Family member has given her more than 30,000 bucks and she still asks for more....this is a very controlling cult

 
At 8/04/2015 11:12 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

Gurus are extremely good at manipulating and very charming. If some people feel attracted by appearance, jewelleries, nice saris and calculated speeches, they have a weak perception of wisdom and compassion. This is cheap spirituality which can be harmful. I guess she doesn't like when attendees ask questions or make comments. Gurus don't like critical thinking. They tell you , it's your bad ego. No it's theirs who like blind followers.

 
At 7/07/2016 2:24 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

She claims that she can clear your karma.
(Past life Karma - as if that exists - now that we understand the genetic and environmental components of diseases.)
The world is entering the fifth dimension in 7 years. The claims are always changing, but they remain as the causation of student's troubling experiences. - as opposed to this irrationality being destabilizing. (Troubling experiences - they are - from the eyes of the medical community. There are real people in there who need help and she is claiming the ability to heal, while giving teachings that would interest the very fragile population susceptible to mental illness and delusion.)
The teachings are all pseudo-scientific claims and occult - fear based fortunes. With the requisite, "All is love," of the new age tossed in.
Note: I have met her and done some of the programs. She is impressive, but the beliefs around her are deluded and she speaks tangentially - and will hop to just about every new age topic out there.

 
At 10/23/2016 5:34 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

http://www.saibaba-x.org.uk/6/g.html
http://www.enlightened-spirituality.org/Sathya_Sai_Baba_my_concerns.html

His Holiness the Dalai Lama has declared: "If there is any difference between who you are sitting on your throne, and who you are behind the scenes, then you should not be sitting on that throne." And on two-faced teachers who deny or rationalize their unwholesome hidden behavior, the Dalai Lama says to students of such teachers: "You get out. You let everybody know, you don't keep it secret." (Quoted in Jetsunma Tenzin Palmo, Into the Heart of Life, 2011, pp. 161-2)

 
At 1/24/2017 4:56 PM, Blogger Lauren Thompson said...

Because this woman is a fraud and criminal. My sister fell for this cult. Spending thousands on the beads,oils, and it destroyed her marriage. This women only wants recruits with major money. She is a child preditor. Alot of people who were devoted to her left the Asharams and exposed the truth about her. She is in for the money. People be aware. I hope someone files in federal court.

 
At 1/24/2017 5:01 PM, Blogger Lauren Thompson said...

Your absolutely correct. Investigate the matter. She has not ever come across as pure. Perhaps the meaning of pure isn't clear to you. She is a fake a fraud and these accusations will soon be brought to federal court since these people were kicked out of India on death threats. First find out what these group of people do destroyed lives, crimes in the name of enlightenment. Alot of people have exposed her and said baba. You should get a clue for your own self and perhaps not head this warning. Be blessed

 
At 1/24/2017 5:19 PM, Blogger Lauren Thompson said...

This is very interesting. A person I know has the same experience. She is very irritated at her husband who has been involved with this cult for a few many years. Now after thousands of dollars later their marriage is on the line. Sai Maa and sai Baba are criminals and should be tried for criminal activities.

 
At 1/24/2017 5:20 PM, Blogger Lauren Thompson said...

Because this woman is a fraud and criminal. My sister fell for this cult. Spending thousands on the beads,oils, and it destroyed her marriage. This women only wants recruits with major money. She is a child preditor. Alot of people who were devoted to her left the Asharams and exposed the truth about her. She is in for the money. People be aware. I hope someone files in federal court.

 
At 3/29/2017 12:06 AM, Blogger Diana Coleman said...

My Ex boyfriend is a member of Sai Maa we were together for four year and were very seriously in Love but then Sai Maa destroyed everything we built, our home our future everything lost. He spent thousands of dollars on Sai Maa’s retreats and received money. I loved my ex boyfriend our love was unique but our unique problem that we had was with Sai Maa…. When i would try to speak with my boyfriend, he changes completely behavior….he become really aggressive! I was in front to a crossroads ….I had choice either to break the story and leave him in this jail or try to help him? What Sai Maa does to them to convert them and have them disconnect with their families that love them is plain out SICK! She likes to play with the minds of weak people! She creates a mental perimeter to her victims that remains trapped inside. She preys on the weak the way all fake guru’s do. She is greedy, money and power hungry.

Each of its members are brainwashed into believing this woman is there savior and can only help them with what ever issues they may have. Nothing and I mean NOTHING gets in the way of there devotion to Sai Maa, you can ask them to pull back and take a break from Sai Maa and the answer will always be the same they are not going to turn there backs on the world of energy and the spirit of Sai Maa. Sai Maa is there Core, it is who they know themselves to be. They follow her around the world from country to country and travel for her. They spend little time with the ones they love the most because they are on conference calls all the time and traveling for her. It is very very Creepy. The things my ex boyfriend told me was very creepy and sad at the same time.

She is more real to each member than there own body, or the clothing on there backs or even there own Personality! They can not be realistically be in a relationship with someone who does not accept, embrace or rejoice in the devotion of Love to Sai Maa. It’s not possible for them ! Like Robots they are Wired to the Core. It’s a HUGE disconnect for them if the other person is not into Sai Maa in some way. There is absolutely no future with any of the members of Sai Maa if you not willing to go down that road, if you are not aligned internally & spiritually. THIS IS A FACT! Doesn’t get clearer than that for them. For them it’s very simple, “Everything is Maa”. Which what one of the sickos in the organization once told me! All the disciples of Sai Maa practice like this all the time without fail.

Sai Maa always wants you to join their organization and then you have to do all this what they call “SAVA” which is donating your time and working. which is pure free labor. Sai Maa never washes her dishes, never does her own laundry, she has people do this for her because she is “HOLLY” and her body needs to be preserved. She has even had young people touch her breast to confirm that she is ageless, to look at her naked body and to tell her face to face that she is beautiful and that she doesn’t look her age!

Sai Maa is NOT LOVE
Sai Maa is a FRAUD of LOVE
She is dangerous especially to Young People. They want new Young people to join there organization and are working hard to get new members to join. They are working on new steps including new video’s to get new and younger members. The amount of families destroyed by Sai Maa are HUGE numbers. People in India know she is a Fake. If you show her website to an Indian, he or she will immediately know she is a fake. She is NOT a master of enlightenment she is a cult leader that has damaged many people by deluding them whilst groveling in her own psychosis.

 
At 3/29/2017 4:45 PM, Blogger Nancy Goodman said...

Sai Maa is a fraud and criminal, family members have given her more than 30,000 bucks and she still asks for more.
This women only wants recruits with major money. She finds young people that are working hard with issues in their life and uses her devotees to do Extortion from them by forcing people to take part in her courses, claiming if you are suffering from low frequency energies—such as anxiety, stress, sadness, frustration—that sabotage areas of your life including your relationships, finances, and career the she can help you with this. She is a child predictor. Alot of people who were devoted to her left the Asharams and exposed the truth about her. She is in for the money.

I heard the same thing from two friends who’s loved one served Sia Maa by giving her “SAVA” which is donating your time and working for free. This Free Labor became a nightmare for these folks, they traveled to Canada and Japan around the globe just for her washing her clothing doing what ever she asked of them and extorting money from them in the process. There are talks about her retiring yet she would still be involved but her Devotees like “Achyutananda Das” replacing her along with the rest of the nut jobs that would take her place to try and do the same crooked work she has been getting away with.

Peoples lives have been damaged by Sia Maa, marriages are on the line.
She has committed crimes in the name of enlightenment. She makes Relationships Toxic!! She is extremely good at manipulating with her appearance of jeweleries, nice saris and calculated speeches that her devotees watch and tell what to say at time, she is a weak perception of wisdom and compassion yet harmful to many weak minded people.
People be aware. Her teachings are not served to make people more loving, compassionate, and joyful at all.
The money trail is Huge with Sai Maa, many of her followers have money stashed away for her, there needs to be an investigation into this crooked Organization. The mind tricks it is playing with people are unethical traumatic abuse !

 
At 4/05/2017 1:46 PM, Blogger Sarah N said...

I have to say, I did at some take a few courses with Sai Maa for some time and frankly they are without a doubt a Cult.
I have a friend who’s life was in great chaos and crisis but after she continued for a few years with Sai Maa I noticed she began to lose family and friends to the destructive brainwashes of Sai Maa and her disciples they literally tore her apart and ruined her live.

They turn people into Sai Maa fans and you see it on some of the faces of the people who work for Sai Maa. These people are called Sai Maa Robots, they are wide eyed entranced almost psycho looking people. The link below are photos that show the insane fans of Sai Maa and the people that get high from being Fans of hers.
They even assign there robots to coach people, to turn them into Sai Maa fans. To only trust Sai Maa. They tell you what to say how to respond to Sai Maa how to stand, how to bow. What to eliminate from your life including loved ones. Encourage dependency and conformity. It’s a Mental torture crafted to change your mind to basically copy each other, there is no personality, they just copy each other. I watched all this for awhile while attending courses at Sai Maa and at some point had to leave because it was just too crazy.

This organization makes even the most intelligent people turn stupid and subject them to what they want you to do. Sai Maa will not set you free even after you complete a course. You will be forced upon by the stupidity to proceed further. Sai Maa members insanely force other people to join not caring about the kind of impending mental impact. They send out tons of emails and you get phone calls as well.

I feel pity for the young people, that are manipulated and talked out of their ambitions and goals. All their dreams and conceptions of life so far would crash to nothing.

Sai Maa is not just a scam. A scam just takes away your money. But this one can be dangerous and can destroy your relationship with loved ones and your family.

https://www.flickr.com/photos/87914616@N06/32682550860/

 
At 4/08/2017 2:15 PM, Blogger Diana Coleman said...

Same look on the faces of the Hugger devotees that I saw many times when i was at Sai Maa. All of her obedient
disciple devotees students have the same look wide eyed the looks on their faces, the white outfits they wear. They WANT to hand over their minds (and their wealth) to Fraud called SIA MAA, because of some deep seated psychological need within themselves. Sai Maa is a Narcissists and a Psychopath as well as her Students . These Guru’s are a FRUADs & Criminals and need to be in prison!!!!!

 
At 4/27/2017 5:07 PM, Blogger Emmagreen said...

I’m so happy to see so many people talking about Sai Maa.
The community of Sai Maa are crooked destructive thieves with idiots who promote a fake Guru who reports to be the fem supremacy Guru who on the surface appears to be very benign but underneath that surface she promotes cutting off ties with family members & friends if they don’t agree with there arguments about Sai Maa. She defends the practice of cutting off ties with family and using the excuse that these students were abuse by there parents. Sai Maa sells you this vision of a perfect community. It is anything but. Her corrupt influence runs deep along with her pursuit of profit.

I watched Sai Maa very carefully for 3 years and the practices at Sai Maa are really inappropriate and not to mention morally reprehensible. I was introduced to Sai Maa by one of her students, at the time I was having a really rough time in my life. I attend the Journey of Profound Healing course and found it really strange, she teaches people to go “back to the womb to darkness” and to eradicate any life dreams, identity, authenticity and ego; essentially, to erase themselves. At times she would tell me I should leave my family and be happy, to escape from my troubles and simply walk away as she did with her family years ago. She would say “Give it a try what could you loose the world is full of options, take the one you want”. She would make you question your own intuition. Needless to say I did not heed her advise at all.

After taking the Journey the student friend told me I had to do more which included Sava which is donating your time and working for free. Some of her student would travel to Canada and Japan around the globe just for her. That day the student so proudly admitted to me about doing Sava for Sai Maa a while back, it took place in a hotel and Sai Maa was talking a shower. She was folding Sai Maa’s clothing and was called on by Sai Maa while in the shower and there was steam everywhere in the shower, Sai Maa asked her to extend arm and give her her hand, when she did Sai Maa grabbed her hand and placed it on her breast and asked her “What do you feel, is this the Breast of a 20 year old or a 57 year old” She responded “a 20 year”. She told me at first she was shocked but then realized what an amazing moment that she shared this intimate moment with Sai Maa and that en-fact she was amazed that her breast felt like that of a 20 year old. She told me this with a face I will never forget with eyes wide open of total adoration and joy! At that point I knew this organization stank of something really funky. The brainwashing technique, is very destructive at Sai Maa camp (especially on young impressionable minds) these students actually believes Sai Maa has mystical powers and that she somehow is ageless, well considering all the obvious plastic surgery she has gotten I’d say she that might be possible. After spending some time with her students and Sava I could see how she uses her students to make herself money, and destroy other people’s relationships and lives.

 
At 5/01/2017 11:50 PM, Blogger Emmagreen said...

I also heard of mediation taking place with her students and some of the elder members, where a lot of touching was involved some incorporate touching said by one person who attended this mediation right in the presence of Sai Maa who openly allowed this and claimed it was a way of opening the soul and being totally free from all the baggage in the world. Sai Maa is also a huge fan of Sai Baba the rapist and sexual predator, who has criminal sexual assaults charges who raped young boys and girls. Before you decide to join Sai Maa Google Sai Baa and take note of all the photos surrounding her wherever she goes and even the photos in the homes of her devotee students. I also did hear about the great “Swami Parameshwarananda” he was involved in a case of molesting young boys not here in the US but in another country where Sai Maa has courses and that the Sai Maa organization was keeping a tight lock on this and about the case at Crestone Ashram where he went after people, with threats of calling the sheriff, if they did not fall in line with his myopic dictates.

Many of the ex-followers of Sai Maa know this is a Cult Organization and that she is a guru predator that brainwashes and exploits people without worry of any legal repercussions. The hard evidence is there but they need to talk about there experiences, speak up, expose and prevent more future victims of Sai Maa’s massive self-serving manipulative and abusive behavior. It’s a cult, it really is.

This photo say it all…with Sai Baba right next to her.
https://www.flickr.com/photos/87914616@N06/32682550860/

 
At 5/20/2017 12:23 PM, Blogger adam wilner said...

This is an American organization run by Sai Maa that reeks of straight out deviousness! She is fooling the Rich, She is fooling the Poor, She is fooling celebrities She is fooling hard working people who are struggling to make ends meet and put food on families tables, she is even fooling educated people. She is not an authentic spiritual healer she is a fraud, she is a fake self-proclaimed god women who has en-fact committed crimes in the name of enlightenment. The community of Sai Maa are crooked destructive thieves with idiots who promote a fake Guru who reports to be the fem supremacy Guru who on the surface appears to be very benign but underneath that surface she promotes cutting off ties with family members & friends. She has ruined thousands and thousands of lives to enrich her own bank account!

She is a dangerous narcissist woman who is self-delusional in grandiose fantasy’s of omnipotence. The fem supremacy Guru Sai Maa is a False Guru & has ruined thousands of lives. These people need to be exposed and brought to justice asap and gullible people who have faith in such characters, actually need someone to show them the truth and help them. Her corrupt influence runs deep along with her pursuit of profit. Sai Maa is a Greedy person who is looking for control and followers to worship her. People who are truly enlightened embody VIRTUE and not DESIRE. Of course this was not in her teachings at all.
Go Here to also Read all the facts and stories about this Sai Maa Cult Organization.
www.saimaalie.blogspot.com

 

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