Cooper Keeps 'Em Krack(i)ed Out
File under: Satscams and Gurus Clockin' Dollars
Austin, Texas-based William Cooper is still slanging the Kracki. Unfortunately for him, he appears to be using his own product, because lately, he's convinced he's psychokinetically breaking coffee mugs with the awesome power of his mind.
His latest missive contains the usual anecdotes of his followers' pseudo-spiritual misadventures. And whaddaya know, they now believe they can psychokinetically affect matter as well. It's just one of the ways he keeps 'em on the "pipe" (and keeps that money pipeline open to the big boss, the Bhagavan Kalki in India):
...Regarding 'energy' -- I thought you might be entertained to learn that even my restaurant is experiencing new vibrations -- solid Libby glasses are sliding across guest tables by themselves; even leaning on their sides without falling over... doors hinged open are snapping shut -- emails are multiplying by five when I send them once -- I do not understand all of this stuff yet -- I am just grateful to be on this journey and part of the oneness -- blessings your way and many thanks...and...
...I understand your mugs exploding -- I have had spells of my radar detector going off in different melodies for an hour at a time while driving along barren country roads (this was after my first session with Gabriella; the weekend I met you both at Jo's) -- and then during my session with Gabriella on Sunday, the mantra kept repeating even though Gabriella had it set the stereo for all CD's to play...That sure is some good shit being pushed by Cooper. It's called ridiculous-assertion-that-confirms-my-teacher's-nonsense-so-that-he'll-be-impressed-with-my-spiritual-"success". In other words, kids trying to impress "daddy" for his pats on the back. Cooper's doing it for the same reason, only he gets his pats from the big daddy, the fauxvatar Bhagavan Kalki.
That's a part of what spirituality is for these folk, the hunt for self-acceptance by way of the positive mirroring of the guru. All the big time players exploit this phenomenon to populate their satsangs. And some, like the Kracki and his various deeksha scamming minions, squeeze it for every last drop of cash and adulation they can get.
It appears that Freddy Nielsen's defection was just a dead armadillo on the road under the Kracki's 18-wheeler, which is still screaming down the freeway turning minds to mush in his rush to stay rich. It just goes to show there's a sucker born every minute. And apparently in Texas... there's ten.
posted by guruphiliac @ 1:10 PM
24 Comments:
jody,
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I do not know how to explain to these new kalkiites what they are getting into. Many are really good people, who genuinely believe its for the good of themselves and humanity.
And using "shock therapy" (like jody) does not work for a lot of people. they just get scared away and dont even consider what you are saying anymore. while i believe what this site is doing is necessary; the same techniques can't be used when dealing with individuals and trying to get them to think for themselves.
i believe what this site is doing is necessary; the same techniques can't be used when dealing with individuals and trying to get them to think for themselves.
My main goal is to reveal those aspects of spiritual culture which occlude self-realization. Kalki is a MAJOR source of these occluding ideas. My secondary goal is to try and entertain. If folks can't relate to what I'm saying or how I'm saying it, they'll just have to go somewhere else to figure out that they are being had.
If folks can't relate to what I'm saying or how I'm saying it, they'll just have to go somewhere else
the point is, folks often cannot relate to what you are saying becuz of how you are saying it.
folks often cannot relate to what you are saying becuz of how you are saying it.
That's their problem. Not that I don't want to help everyone, just that irreverence is a necessary component of my style.
Hi Jody,
I find your anti-Bhagavan blog topics highly amusing! I have to wonder though: "My main goal is to reveal those aspects of spiritual culture which occlude self-realization" - what are these aspects specifically?
Is it that people promoting Amma-Bhagavan's path to self-realisation pretend that they are already there?
As you can imagine, being able to give the deeksha doesn't mean that you are enlightened, as much as the ego might like to think so. Spiritual egos are nothing new, every kind of "spiritual" gathering will have many of them.
Or is it the money? It is universal law that you have to give something to receive something, however there does seem to be a lot of people who feel ripped off, suggesting that the O.M. hasn't delivered on its promises.
Just because you don't like their presentation, that doesn't mean that there is no truth in what they're saying.
People are always going to feel angry and reject A & B and the rest of the movement - I believe this to be part of the process, as this kind of evolution can be very cathartic. Psychologists have identified the same kind of process in relationships, where past trauma is brought up in one partner's consciousness, and they take it out on the other, believing that it is them who is making them feel this way, when in reality it is them providing the space for the past to be healed.
Have you tried deeksha yourself? I would be interested to hear your thoughts.
All the best, Lucas.
I find your anti-Bhagavan blog topics highly amusing!
Thanks.
I have to wonder though: "My main goal is to reveal those aspects of spiritual culture which occlude self-realization" - what are these aspects specifically?
The idea that self-realization makes you anything more than you already are.
Is it that people promoting Amma-Bhagavan's path to self-realisation pretend that they are already there?
It's the idea that experiences of any kind have anything at all to do with self-realization. Self-realization is not an experience. Having "billions of orgasms a second" is a sensual experience. It has as much to do with self-realization as my dog's ass.
As you can imagine, being able to give the deeksha doesn't mean that you are enlightened, as much as the ego might like to think so.
All it takes is the idea that a person can transmit something. The receiver's mind fills in all the blanks. It's faith healing.
Spiritual egos are nothing new, every kind of "spiritual" gathering will have many of them.
Kalki Bhagavan is one of the biggest spiritual egos alive today.
Or is it the money? It is universal law that you have to give something to receive something,
New age bullshit noted.
however there does seem to be a lot of people who feel ripped off, suggesting that the O.M. hasn't delivered on its promises.
Er... yep!
Just because you don't like their presentation, that doesn't mean that there is no truth in what they're saying.
There is no truth in saying that experiences constitute enlightenment. And enlightenment has nothing to do with lokas, which are mythological fantasy, as well as any and all "powers" attributed to Kalki.
People are always going to feel angry and reject A & B and the rest of the movement - I believe this to be part of the process, as this kind of evolution can be very cathartic.
It's called coming to your senses.
Psychologists have identified the same kind of process in relationships, where past trauma is brought up in one partner's consciousness, and they take it out on the other, believing that it is them who is making them feel this way, when in reality it is them providing the space for the past to be healed.
Whatever that has to do with anything.
People reject Kalki because he's a money and fame lusting narcissist. Those who follow him are worse than sheep, they are lemmings. They believe in a pie-in-the-sky dream and a magic king to save them all. 2012 will make the disappointment of the Harmonic Convergence seem like it was merely a rained out Little League game.
Have you tried deeksha yourself? I would be interested to hear your thoughts.
I have known spontaneous diksha a number of times in my life, and I've taken initiation from a Vedantic swami. To add Kalki's deeksha on top of that would be like to shit on a beautiful flower. No thanks.
Hi Jody, thanks for your reply.
The idea that self-realization makes you anything more than you already are.
That is a good one. I agree that many O.M. followers fall into this as is a tendency of the spiritual ego; however for me the core objective of the process is to become fine with all the crap that comes with being human, not to remove the crap or in some other way improve yourself.
It's the idea that experiences of any kind have anything at all to do with self-realization. Self-realization is not an experience.
Right again, people do get carried away with experiences and expectations. Bhagavan says, "Mystical experience does not a mystic make". I can't say that I've had any Earth-shattering experiences from deeksha, but I do feel a lot more spiritually connected now than I did 12 months ago, which has led to a lot less fear in my experience of the world and dramatic improvements in my relationships.
All it takes is the idea that a person can transmit something. The receiver's mind fills in all the blanks. It's faith healing.
Have you seen the photos of deeksha events with the goldens balls? Does this mean that we all created them with our minds? Not that there's anything wrong with faith healing if it works, but I think that there's more going on here.
Those who follow him are worse than sheep, they are lemmings.
I guess that makes me a lemming too. I don't actually hold any desperate hope that Bhagavan will enlighten me, and too many of those dates have been thrown around in history for my liking too. I do however notice enough of a difference in my own life and those around me to be convinced that something is happening.
I have known spontaneous diksha a number of times in my life, and I've taken initiation from a Vedantic swami.
It sounds like you'll be fine, not that you needed me to say so.
Best wishes, Lucas.
Hehe, I just noticed this:
emails are multiplying by five when I send them once -- I do not understand all of this stuff yet --
I've seen this loads of times - sounds to me like he needs to check that his anti-virus software is up to date!
Lucas.
the core objective of the process is to become fine with all the crap that comes with being human, not to remove the crap or in some other way improve yourself.
But that's not what's being promoted. What people are saying is that deeksha melts the troubles of life without them having to be faced. Cooper and his dupes breathlessly claim to blow up coffee cups and cure cancer. For them it's about denying the crap. Too bad the crap can't be transcended by choosing to believe it has melted away due to the magical power of deeksha.
Bhagavan says, "Mystical experience does not a mystic make".
But self-proclaimed avatars find that it does money make.
I can't say that I've had any Earth-shattering experiences from deeksha, but I do feel a lot more spiritually connected now than I did 12 months ago,
Sure, you are part of a community. That doesn't mean Kalki's deeksha is magically transforming the world.
which has led to a lot less fear in my experience of the world and dramatic improvements in my relationships.
Bad gurus can work for sincere devotees. That doesn't mean they're "right" gurus.
Have you seen the photos of deeksha events with the goldens balls? Does this mean that we all created them with our minds?
That sounds like spurious optical phenomena to me. Ben Creme uses the same ploy to promote his Maitreya nonsense.
Not that there's anything wrong with faith healing if it works, but I think that there's more going on here.
And that's exactly why it works.
I guess that makes me a lemming too. I don't actually hold any desperate hope that Bhagavan will enlighten me, and too many of those dates have been thrown around in history for my liking too. I do however notice enough of a difference in my own life and those around me to be convinced that something is happening.
Right. You are a sincere devotee following a bad guru. It has nothing at all to do with Kalki or deeksha, and everything to do with your own blessings from within.
But that's not what's being promoted. What people are saying is that deeksha melts the troubles of life without them having to be faced. Cooper and his dupes breathlessly claim to blow up coffee cups and cure cancer. To them it's about removing the crap. To bad that will never happen until it is faced. It cannopt be avoided by deciding to believe it has melted away because they've been cleansed by deeksha.
All true, some people don't get it and I have to admit that there is no quality control on the understanding and attitude of people that are let out of GC to give deeksha after the 21 days.
But self-proclaimed avatars find that it does money make.
Touche, I was asking for that.
Sure, you are part of a community. That doesn't mean Kalki's deeksha is magically transforming the world.
That's possibly it, but it doesn't seem that way to me.
Bad gurus can work for sincere devotees. That doesn't mean the guru is right.
That's funny, I've never considered myself to be a devotee. I appreciate Bhagavan's teachings but I don't see him as god. I don't see any point to do that anyway, since if it's true then it doesn't matter if I see him as that or not ... if you get my meaning.
It's more likely to be spurious optical phenomena.
I have a lot of photos that I've taken myself, some of the golden balls are quite clearly defined and have a consistent appearance in each photo. Not that this proves anything, but having them turn up in your own house and backyard is pretty unusual.
Right. You are a sincere devotee following a bad guru. It has nothing at all to do with Kalki or deeksha, and everything to do with your own blessings from within.
That's good enough for me, thanks.
Lucas.
regarding the energy balls, I must say that they are not optical effects.
They are indeed energy balls.
But, I have seen them not just in holy enviroments, but also in very psichyc and dense atmosphere, where the energy was not very clear...
So believing that these are Kalki's balls, bringing enlightenment to humankind, is quite naif, my dear.... a matter of blind faith.
LOVE
That's funny, I've never considered myself to be a devotee. I appreciate Bhagavan's teachings but I don't see him as god. I don't see any point to do that anyway, since if it's true then it doesn't matter if I see him as that or not
hope you remain that way. this attitude is the exception rather than the rule among followers, including the 'dasas' who dont ecnourage this kind of level-headedness (as confirmed by freddy's expose).
regarding the energy balls, I must say that they are not optical effects.
They are indeed energy balls.
But, I have seen them not just in holy enviroments, but also in very psichyc and dense atmosphere, where the energy was not very clear...
So believing that these are Kalki's balls, bringing enlightenment to humankind, is quite naif, my dear.... a matter of blind faith.
LOVE
It may well be blind faith, but I've never seen them before India, and never in such great quantities as I did there.
When we invite the divine presence, we easily capture them on film, for example at my wedding recently. When there has been no invocation they are rarely there unless there is a sense of sacredness about whatever is happening.
I don't claim them to be from Bhagavan specifically, however I do believe that they come from Grace. And I can't see why psychic and dense atmospheres would necessarily exclude sacredness.
hope you remain that way. this attitude is the exception rather than the rule among followers, including the 'dasas' who dont ecnourage this kind of level-headedness (as confirmed by freddy's expose).
My experience has been that nobody (including Bhagavan) says you need to be devoted to him, and many people who have been around deeksha talk about finding their connection with their own identification of divinity, eg. Buddha, Jesus, Allah, White Light, etc. The main thing is that you relate to the object as divinty and that is enough to invoke the presence. It could be your cat and that would be ok. Faith healing maybe, but if it works, so what?
I have heard nothing before of the kind of pro-Bhagavan propaganda discussed by Freddy or others on this site. It is true that the Dasas see Bhagavan as god, but I have never been asked to agree with them. I have reserved judgement because I am not enlightened so it's not for me to say either way.
All the best, Lucas.
It may well be blind faith, but I've never seen [golden balls] before India, and never in such great quantities as I did there.
Golden balls on photographs... So what?
Regardless of the cause, they are entirely superfluous with regards to self-realization.
I do believe that they come from Grace.
The key term being "believe."
And I can't see why psychic and dense atmospheres would necessarily exclude sacredness.
Sacredness is where you put it more than where you find it.
My experience has been that nobody (including Bhagavan) says you need to be devoted to him
Are you close to the top? I bet it's a completely different story in that loka.
The main thing is that you relate to the object as divinty and that is enough to invoke the presence. It could be your cat and that would be ok. Faith healing maybe, but if it works, so what?
This is a great statement, Lucas. I've never said Kalki can't work for people, because it's what the people bring to it much more than anything Kalki actually has. He is clearly grandiose. Anyone who claims to be an avatar is. These days it's a disease of the mind, not a noble calling.
I have reserved judgement because I am not enlightened so it's not for me to say either way.
"I am not enlightened." Believe it or not, you are, insofar as you can't get any more divine than you are right now. It's a simple perceptual shift. There's no choir of apsaras to greet you in the higher worlds once you get enlightened. You will not have billions of orgasms a second. Those things happen, but they don't have anything more to do with enlightenment than anything else. It's just simply seeing what's right in front of you, which has always been right in front of you, because it's who you've always been for fucking ever. Something that has nothing to do with deeksha, which is just another ring in the circus which occurs around who we really are.
Golden balls on photographs... So what?
Regardless of the cause, they are entirely superfluous with regards to self-realization.
Fair enough for you to say so, I have nothing to convince you otherwise.
Sacredness is where you put it more than where you find it.
This is what I was thinking too, when I made the original comment.
Are you close to the top? I bet it's a completely different story in that loka.
I suppose if we are to take Freddy's post at face value, it does seem a bit sleazy at the top.
I don't take his post at face value - correspondence I've read from him in the past has been full of contradictions and self-promotion, so I am inclined towards Anandagiriji's explanation of the whole debacle, (http://www.experiencefestival.com/a/Freddy_Nielsen/id/1892253) where he discussed Freddy's ambition to be the sole leader in the US.
A couple of high-profile deeksha givers here in Australia stopped Freddy coming here last year, for reasons that I don't know, but I guess they didn't like him (so much for Oneness, and all these people presume to be enlightened).
This is a great statement, Lucas. I've never said Kalki can't work for people, because it's what the people bring to it much more than anything Kalki actually has.
I guess a lot of things would work like this, and probably nothing will work if people bring nothing to it.
I have studied a bit of philosophy and religion and I am yet to find anything said by Bhagavan himself (not some mis-guided deeksha giver who is carried away with his/her own importance) that doesn't sit right with me. I think that I have a good bullshit detector, but I'm sure you'll disagree!
He is clearly grandiose. Anyone who claims to be an avatar is. These days it's a disease of the mind, not a noble calling.
Depending on your interpretation, technically anyone could say that they are an avatar. I believe that we are all aspects of the divine currently having an Earth experience, as wanky as that sounds. Didn't Jesus say he was the son of God? I'm not saying Bhagavan is necessarily the same, but consider what we would be writing about Jesus if he was only just around now and didn't have the credibility that history has given him.
If Bhagavan says he is an avatar and that attracts more people to his cause, then I think the word has fulfilled its purpose (you don't need to remind me that we have different views on what the purpose actually is). Also, I think they're a lot more accepting of people adopting such titles in India than we are in the west.
"I am not enlightened." Believe it or not, you are, insofar as you can't get any more divine than you are right now. It's a simple perceptual shift ... It's just simply seeing what's right in front of you, which has always been right in front of you, because it's who you've always been for fucking ever. Something that has nothing to do with deeksha, which is just another ring in the circus which occurs around who we really are.
Yes, I agree with this, and I support the idea that for most of us the deeksha process is spiritual materialism: we latch on to phenomena like the golden balls and "mystical" experiences to make us think something's happening.
I think that if I was enlightened I could say for sure if something is happening behind all of the hands on the heads, but I haven't made that perceptual shift. I'm still caught in the circus, however there has been catharsis, and greater inner peace has come after that.
This is my experience, so it is true for me (for now).
Thanks for letting me post on your blog, it has been fun, and you obviously know what you're talking about. I suppose time will tell who is right; if we do actually have a golden age or not. I'd like to think that we will.
Are you familiar with the work of Dr David Hawkins? He talks about enlightenment in a similar way to Bhagavan. I tried searching for an entry in this blog where you rip him to shreds but to my surprise I couldn't find one!
Lucas.
I am inclined towards Anandagiriji's explanation of the whole debacle
That's like Dick Cheney saying Scooter Libby didn't lie.
A couple of high-profile deeksha givers here in Australia stopped Freddy coming here last year, for reasons that I don't know, but I guess they didn't like him (so much for Oneness, and all these people presume to be enlightened).
The "oneness" Kalki talks about is nothing more than emotional fronting. The oneness that we are is complete in and of ourselves. We don't need anyone else to know the oneness that we are.
I am yet to find anything said by Bhagavan himself (not some mis-guided deeksha giver who is carried away with his/her own importance) that doesn't sit right with me. I think that I have a good bullshit detector, but I'm sure you'll disagree!
It needs a bit of tuning. Read this:
http://guruphiliac.blogspot.com/2005/11/kracki-multiple-personality-divinity.html
technically anyone could say that they are an avatar. I believe that we are all aspects of the divine currently having an Earth experience, as wanky as that sounds. Didn't Jesus say he was the son of God? I'm not saying Bhagavan is necessarily the same, but consider what we would be writing about Jesus if he was only just around now and didn't have the credibility that history has given him.
We don't have a clue as to what Jesus would be like because everything that we know about him was filtered through power-seeking and grasping patriarchs.
If Bhagavan says he is an avatar and that attracts more people to his cause, then I think the word has fulfilled its purpose
To flim flam people with ridiculous nonsense.
Also, I think they're a lot more accepting of people adopting such titles in India than we are in the west.
At the expense of their reason and common sense.
Yes, I agree with this, and I support the idea that for most of us the deeksha process is spiritual materialism: we latch on to phenomena like the golden balls and "mystical" experiences to make us think something's happening.
And Kalki's people do everything to encourage that, thus bringing way more ignorance to the process than enlightenment. Read some of William Cooper's letters. They are all and ONLY about magical experiences.
Are you familiar with the work of Dr David Hawkins? He talks about enlightenment in a similar way to Bhagavan.
As far as self-realization goes, Hawkins is a moron. One who's got a bunch of other morons believing in his tripe.
lucas said:
(ABOUT GOLDEN BALLS)
It may well be blind faith, but I've never seen them before India, and never in such great quantities as I did there.
When we invite the divine presence, we easily capture them on film, for example at my wedding recently. When there has been no invocation they are rarely there unless there is a sense of sacredness about whatever is happening.
I don't claim them to be from Bhagavan specifically, however I do believe that they come from Grace. And I can't see why psychic and dense atmospheres would necessarily exclude sacredness.
just because u have never seen them before does not mean that they were not there before. Lots of doccumentary about orbs. google it!
and if u were right, and they come from grace, why then to think that they come from kalki???
That's like Dick Cheney saying Scooter Libby didn't lie.
If you like. Our govt in Australia are criminals too, so I can relate.
I hope readers of this realise that you are commenting purely from opinion which is not based on personal experience; and that they can make up their own minds about who are criminals or otherwise.
The oneness that we are is complete in and of ourselves. We don't need anyone else to know the oneness that we are.
That's right, but still there are people around who want so badly to be acknowledged as being in oneness (when they're not) that they feed people these stories that make the whole deal look so bad.
It needs a bit of tuning. Read this:
http://guruphiliac.blogspot.com/2005/11/kracki-multiple-personality-divinity.html
You have noted that there would be multiple illusory entities inhabiting the body. He's qualifying this concept of "divine beings" by stating that it is higher consciousnesses (more than one divine "being"), not possession. I don't read "being" and "entity" as synonymous here, but see being as just that - the arising and passing away of an object of consciousness, or experience, without illusion of a "self" having that experience.
Also, rather than claiming people to be vegetables, he's just describing that they no longer associate with that "person", as if he/she is no longer there. This is in line with my interpretation of Buddhist teachings of the extinguishing of the self after enlightenment.
All the traditions I have studied maintain that it is very difficult to describe these things in words, and impossible to understand them as concepts without being mistaken. People insist on asking the question though!
And Kalki's people do everything to encourage that, thus bringing way more ignorance to the process than enlightenment. Read some of William Cooper's letters. They are all and ONLY about magical experiences.
The thing that I keep coming back to is that Cooper et al are not "Kalki's people". For example, if I spend some time at a vipassana retreat then decide to hold a satsang based on Buddhism, that doesn't make me an authorised representative of Buddha, or even of my meditation teacher. You have to use your own judgement about who you want to sit with.
just because u have never seen them before does not mean that they were not there before. Lots of doccumentary about orbs. google it!
and if u were right, and they come from grace, why then to think that they come from kalki???
I tried to google it but I only found some information about Amma and Bhagavan, then some info about spiders. Anyway, to quote my other post:
I don't claim them to be from Bhagavan specifically, however I do believe that they come from Grace.
I was responding to the claim that they are "Kalki's balls" (nice one by the way): I never made this claim. Also, I would never suggest for a moment that Grace has not existed on the planet before now. Just that I am observing it a lot more now than before.
Best wishes, Lucas.
sure, and that is probably because of the power of your Kalki, right?
or may be because of ur incredible mission of giving deeksha to humankind for the purpose of enlightening the world?
Mary mother of God!
Next step that Kracki will do will be selling magic wands, for which u might have to pay another $5000...without which... u could not make it by your own...
And u all will blindly run there to get one...
to get more power in your deekshas....
people people people
dont worry about these things
it doesnt matter either way
people who want to buy into it will
people who dont wont
who gives a shit
its like brainwashing from social conditioning
or buying the latest model of car
or fashion
or music
its all the same bullshit
but it really doesnt matter
even giving a shit doesnt matter
.
so if nothing matters
what shall we do...
.
aha!
have fun!
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just kidding,
im off to get an enema
im so full of shit
who gives a shit
That's a very good question.
A sense of purpose is experienced when I point out that the ideas about self-realization used by big-time gurus to attract followers more or less prevents it.
There is a preponderance of spiritual ignorance in the world, much of it cultivated by greedy big-time gurus. It makes them shams and what they teach a flimflam. I feel that needs pointing out, hence this effort of mine.
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