Friday, September 22, 2006

Freddie Cracks His Whip At The Kracki

File under: Satscams and The Siddhi of PR

Freddie Nielsen was the Kracki's main man for the Western world. Then he had a moment of clarity and bailed. Now he's in a war of words with the criminals who continue to flimflam with the deeksha scam, and he's telling it like it is:
I think that [Amma and Bhagavan] are really heartless when they exaggerate so much, promise incredible things when very little actually happens. Some are strongly regretting that they received dikshas, others have gone to the mental hospital as a result etc. So there are both positive as well as negative points regarding the effects of dikshas. I do not want to deny any of these two opposite poles. Who knows how the dikshas work, if it is mostly because of faith… [Ed.note: It's all about faith, Freddie!] But I do not agree that there are LOTS of people who have gotten a permanent inner peace etc.

Maybe one does not have to go through the incredibly expensive 21 days course in order to give dikshas. Many Russians have take loans that takes 2-20 years to pay back, some live in poverty until they have paid back their loans. Others have become totally desperate due to the loans that now destroy everything in their lives, and those who did not get a nice state often become extremely depressed.

I believe in purity and integrity. These two fundamental qualities I can hardly see in A&B and their Movement. And there can always be a risk involved in getting energy from a source that is far from pure. Who knows what this will end in…
With Freddie breaking off and forming his own deeksha scam, we're not going to be calling him a real true guru quite yet. But at least he's square with the fact that the Kracki is a crook and willing to talk about it.

Hopefully one day the Indian government will catch the same clue Freddie did and put a stop to the massive criminal enterprise known as the Oneness Movement. But with all that cash flying around among the local officials, we don't have much faith the folks in high places there will ever get wise.

15 Comments:

At 9/22/2006 8:01 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

Just popping in to note that I linked you here: Gurus: The Good, The Bad, and the Ugly

Meantime, if you're in need of some serious laughter, try here: Enlightenment? What Enlightenment?

 
At 9/23/2006 7:31 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

I really like this and think it should be posted here. It's from "Tightie whitie" from the connecting link:

Motivations for seeking enlightenment
Many people have an incorrect view of their own motivation for entering the spiritual path. Only rarely does a seeker genuinely wish to ‘realize God’, ‘be free’, or ‘serve humanity’. Most people don’t know what spiritual life is, let alone why they want it. In fact, when a student asked Zen master Suzuki Roshi what enlightenment was, he responded: ‘What do you want to know for? You may not like it.’

It often takes many years for spiritual seekers to realise that they have given themselves to spiritual life for reasons entirely unknown to them – reasons far less noble and selfless than their romantic imagination had led them to believe. When one initially uncovers the falsity of one’s motivations, it can be both disheartening and unpleasant, which is why most people hide their real motivations in their unconscious. They happily go about believing that they want only to be ‘free’, ‘liberated’, and ‘at one with all of life’.

Yet this unveiling of false motivations is a valuable and necessary step on the spiritual path. Common reasons for turning to a spiritual life include:

Relief from suffering: Most people engage in spiritual life because they want to be free from suffering. ‘One of the greatest misunderstandings that people have is regarding the spiritual journey as a vacation trip,’ declared the Tibetan master, Chögyam Trungpa Rinpoche. People imagine that the spiritual path will provide them with peace of mind, transcendence of their problems, freedom from their psychological aberrations, and everlasting life. They mistakenly imagine that if they meditate enough, do enough yoga postures, or study enough spiritual books, eternal bliss will be theirs.

‘All too often neophytes suffer from the delusion that spiritual practice is supposed to be fulfilling,’ says scholar and yoga master Georg Feuerstein. ‘They expect to be made happy and to be relieved of their basic existential sense of dilemma, either by their own efforts or by their teacher.’ Feuerstein is pointing out a viewpoint that has its roots in the individual’s basic misunderstanding and denial of the human condition – a viewpoint that is supported by the morass of New Age and pseudo-spiritual literature that floods the market and confirms the fantasies of its readers.

 
At 9/24/2006 10:18 AM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

“Maybe one does not have to go through the incredibly expensive 21 days course in order to give dikshas.”

I am sharply critical of the deeksha movement and really do believe that Kalki is taking advantage of people’s deepest spiritual needs by making the claims he does and by charging individual people a fee that can feed an entire Indian family for a year; but I want to share one positive experience. There’s a woman in Austin named Michelle Charette who I have been to and about whom I have heard really good things. She does something other deeksha givers do not do that seems to stimulate something in the brain that really does quiet the nervous system. I sense she has a special talent that has nothing to do with kalki- and it would be unfair to deter people from going to people like her just because she is associated with the oneness movement. I doubt it is a permanent fix, but at least she isn’t out there publicizing herself left and right and making grandiose claims about enlightenment, at least not to my knowledge, and doesn’t charge a fee. I think people can do what she does without going to India, but I guess Kalki puts out a very compelling claim that hasn’t really been deconstructed and contested well because of its relative newness on the American scene.

 
At 9/25/2006 8:14 AM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

Most people want spiritual development the way that teenage girls want to have babies. The reality is that it is about giving up or having taken from you everything you thought was precious and necessary, leaving you for years in a burning desert until your bones are bleached white.

 
At 9/25/2006 11:29 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

I'm not sure Ms.Charette is as pure as you say. I just came across this ad:

'Energy Transfer for True Awakening/Deeksha
Facilitators: Tim Price and Michele Charette
Wednesdays, 7:00 - 9:45PM (Note: No session on Sept. 6th)
Fee based

Those seeking "God Realization" can attain higher consciousness with repeated transfers of the Seed Energy for Enlightenment. Tim Price and Michele Charette have recently returned from India where they received the phenomenal energy known as Deeksha. Through the grace of their teachers, they pass this powerful spiritual healing energy through prayerful touch.'

 
At 9/26/2006 7:50 AM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

That may be true, anonymous. I just think more people should learn how to do whatever she does and then give it without calling it deeksha or enlightenment. Sure beats prozac.

 
At 9/28/2006 7:13 AM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

I want to clarify a bit my comments about Ms. Charette. There is a point on the top of the head that acupuncturists stimulate to reduce anxiety. I think a few of the deeksha givers are very talented at manipulating this point in the scalp, thereby inducing a nice state of relaxation or bliss. The problem is that they call it a divine energy transfer, which is where I disagree with the whole business. Most of the other deeksha givers just put their hands on your head and nothing happens, but since they tell people that all sorts of spiritual stuff is supposed to be going on, people have realizations that they think are coming from the deeksha ‘energy,’ but which, in reality, are coming from themselves in their ability to sit and be quiet for an hour or 2 in a state of intense reflection.

 
At 10/26/2006 8:45 AM, Anonymous Chets said...

Hmmm,
A friend of mine did the 21 day thingie and every day would loudly ask "anyone enlightened yet".....
anyway he went because of the image promoted by the deeksha givers,
gotta say though...the energy is pure.

 
At 10/26/2006 9:13 AM, Blogger jody said...

the energy is pure.

Pure fantasy, that is.

 
At 11/18/2006 7:07 AM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

This article by David Lane describes how he discovered that he could trigger visions and breakthrough experiences in students who were taking his philosophy classes. Lane had no pretensions to being a guru and concluded that we are wired to generate such experiences. The problem arises when a guru dishonestly takes the credit.

Here is the article:

'The Kirpal Statistic'

http://www.ex-premie2.org/papers/kirpal_statistic.htm

 
At 12/01/2006 5:05 AM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

great to see that someone understands that the oneness movement is fraud. You will be surprised to know that both amma and bhagavan are not as spiritual as you may expect. they are real business people and invest all the cash they receive from donations into thier movies and music business in the US and a software company also in the US.

 
At 12/01/2006 8:36 AM, Blogger jody said...

they are real business people and invest all the cash they receive from donations into thier movies and music business

Please, do tell us the names of these companies. Send a tip to tips@guruphiliac.org.

 
At 12/04/2006 8:41 AM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

google Kosmic studios.
Anyways, I was envolved into all this movement. Then I start realizing the fraud it was.
During a period, I wanted to make sure about my intuition. So with a group of people who used to come to receive diksha, i told them, to do it themselves. I told them to get in touch to the most sacred place in themselves, and to invoque the grace, and to transmit it like we did with diksha.
They came back saying that it works. And they did not have to pay almost 6000 $ plus the following update courses...
So whatever kalki's diksha is. We all have it.
Purity, we all have it. U can chosse to connect to purity, or to other kind of perception.

 
At 5/08/2009 12:34 AM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

Amma Bhagavan’s evil son Krishna Ge of oneness university builds yet another new bunglow in the heart of the city Chennai.
More Dasas are welcome to serve. More money is welcome. Anybody in search of enlightment are welcome but with money only.

 
At 6/11/2009 2:13 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

Amma Bhagavan of oneness temple is a man with no conscience of what he is doing to millions of people. This scum bag who self proclaimed that he is the Kalki Avatar cheated millions of childlike minds who were seeking a hope and God. He literally high jacked the traditional age old Hindu prayer ceremonies ( pooja’s ) and Hindu customs for his benefit. You can see many stage managed prayer ceremonies performed for him and his wife.
You can also see from his short speeches that the phrases and subject matter has been picked from various books written by experts and scholars in those fields.
The so called deeksha energy transfer is a total fraud because this sprit bastard does not have any individual knowledge or energy of his own to transfer. Everything is picked from religions and books. The only thing of his own is adapting and manipulating everything to his benefit and to cover-up and continue his BIG LIE. Only idiots will fall at his feet that too by paying for it. This Sprit Bastard will continue until he is making money. This scum bag Amma Bhagavan is a Black mark on the Hindu Religion and India.

 

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