Guruphiliac: Louie The Avatard



Tuesday, June 14, 2005

Louie The Avatard

File under: Wackadoo Gurus

Today at GuruRatings, list owner Sarlo brought our attention to one Avatar Louix Dor Dempriey. That's kinda kingly sounding. The roi of the world, who regards himself as the one true Maitreya, is apparently under attack. Such are the travails of the savior of all humanity. Speaking for himself:
The immense Light of this Avatar in particular, The Maitreya, immediately reveals in others—the very moment they encounter His Divine and Immortal Presence—all that is not pure within them, so that they may purify it by following His simple guidance, His flawless example, and by following His gentle, easy, and loving direction...

Instead of recognizing this truth and prostrating themselves in utter humility and gratefulness for having been so duly blessed, exalted, and uplifted, most of those in the Avatar’s presence use this dross (He so graciously exhumes from the corpses of their Separate existence) as a weapon against their own Lord.

Even in the midst of such ignorance, treachery, and treason does the Lord, Himself, in human form, accept these unworthy offerings of love as the finest roses in His garden of souls; does He bear and endure these transgressions against Him; and does He continue loving in the face of such adversity—until such time that His children will finally surrender to the Truth and Inevitability of His love and of their inexorable union with Him.
God is sounding a bit paranoid, but ever so gracious, no?

Louie the Avatar reminds us of an acquaintance from some years ago. We remember David Spero as a very sweet man, albeit one who was convinced that he could transmit enlightenment by enveloping his devotees' prana with his "shakti," as he termed it. After doing so, he would query the devotees about their experiences, and then he would explain their experiences in the context of his "spiritual power" and what it was doing for them.

And he would talk shit about people who left his group. It seemed to fly in the face of his reason. After all, he was a divine being, and anyone who met him was blessed by his presence. Just like Roi Louie. They even kind of look alike.

We truly wish David well and pray he not fall into the pit of "divine" self-regard to the depth that Louie has. While it's one thing to see yourself as a unique transmitter of "divine power," it's quite another to see yourself as "the One," the only one, true, authentic and showing each and every other avatar to be false. That's just plain, "I'm Jesus Christ"-style crazy. For Louie we recommend a course of ECT followed by a regimen of Risperdal and Prozac.

It has worked wonders for us.

BONUS LINK: James Barton's excellent compilation of avatarism's many "Ones."

20 Comments:

At 6/15/2005 4:28 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

Cheers Jody,

Here is a link to the original article:
http://www.virtuescience.com/i-am-the-one-and-only.html
Now with the Louie quote.

James

 
At 6/16/2005 5:28 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

Jody,

You always were a young bottom-feeder now you are a middle-aged one!

There's nothing wrong with Spero. Try un-occluding your filters.

 
At 6/17/2005 9:36 AM, Blogger guruphiliac said...

David Spero and all the other "transmission" teachers harbor the delusion that they possess magic powers. While he might be a nice guy who just wants to be loved, his satsang and methods are based in the delusion of his special "powers."

The nondual truth has as much to do with magical powers of "transmission" as it does my dog's ass.

 
At 6/18/2005 11:53 AM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

Jody,

You have your nose so far up your dog's ass that you're lost.

 
At 6/18/2005 5:15 PM, Blogger guruphiliac said...

That's not very funny!

You should have said I have my head so far up my dog's ass that I can taste the Purina.

 
At 6/19/2005 9:17 AM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

Jody,

That's really obscure and so funny - NOT!

Get a life!

 
At 4/02/2007 4:11 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

its very funny, how does it taste?

 
At 4/02/2007 9:36 PM, Blogger guruphiliac said...

how does it taste?

Like sweet, sweet discrimination.

 
At 8/13/2010 5:34 PM, Blogger michael said...

David is a remarkable. He does transmit tremendous Shakti and encountering what happens over a sustained amount of time with him is educational -in a most profound way -- if one is sincere, discriminative and elegant. His help is rare and much more transformative than the more common neo-vedantic rhetorical teachings. One is initiated into the subtle boundless potentials of Infinite Consciousness.

 
At 8/13/2010 5:57 PM, Blogger guruphiliac said...

One is initiated into the subtle boundless potentials of Infinite Consciousness.

I'm afraid that's not true. What David is initiating you into is folk theory. Your experiences with him are the result of your own sincere desire, with the permission-giving supplied by your idea that David has magic powers of enlightenment.

I enjoyed my time with David. As far as I could tell, he's a really good guy who really only wants to help. However, giving folks the idea that nondual realization is accompanied by "powers" such as those he claims to have will only prevent their own nondual understanding, in my opinion.

That said, Ma has us all in the palm of Her hand. She's got David doing what he's doing, and She's got me doing what's mine.

 
At 7/11/2012 7:06 PM, Blogger michael said...

I am not afraid and it is true. Guru's Grace is a real time honored and true path.

"Your experiences with him are the result of your own sincere desire, with the permission-giving supplied by your idea that David has magic powers of enlightenment."

The first part of your statement is only partly true. There is a great mystery here that transcends "David" as an ego who believes anything. David awakens people, in spite of his self. I don't call it magic powers of enlightenment. It's actually completely natural, albeit uncommon. David 100% transmits the force of Awakend-Heart-Conciousness. As to the results, that depends the persons own sincere desire as you stated.

The fundamental mistake you make is confounding the Guru's personality with Enlightenment. Enlightenment is Trans-human, amoral and beyond our own minds and preconceptions. To project our own conceptions onto what constitutes Enlightenment is the oldest mistake in the "book".

 
At 7/11/2012 7:11 PM, Blogger guruphiliac said...

Enlightenment is merely recognizing what is always present in each of us. While it's true that enlightenment offers no purchase for any conception we may hold about it, neither does it harbor anything special in the way of powers over the physical universe. Louie "awakens" people simply because they expect something special to happen in his presence. It's not enlightenment, it's the placebo effect.

 
At 7/11/2012 7:21 PM, Blogger michael said...

I am not afraid and it is true. David is a GURU and Guru's Grace is a fact. India has known about this for thousands of years.
Your errors are:
1. The confounding of the Guru's personality w/ Enlightenment.

2. Your own preconceptions/mind projecting onto David.

3. Getting distracted by his "crazy-talk", as he calls it. Which is pretty much besides the point of what actually, factually occurs to the sincere aspirant, which is entirely different from person to person. For me awakening has gradually, absolutely happened as a result of opening and trusting him and other Gurus I have affiliated with. Grace is Real. It is not the "me" that gets Enlightened anyway. You, wont get Enlightened with this presumptuous attitude

There is no permission given by me. I didn't even believe David had anything the first time I encountered him. I felt his full on Transmission power,while my mind judged him. David is a beautiful flower.

 
At 7/11/2012 7:24 PM, Blogger michael said...

That is a relative point of view. It's not placebo effect. Shakti is a real biological fact. It is in us. The Guru awakens That. It is energetic, not "merely". It is natural and beautiful. It's not about powers "over" the physical universe. It is about Grace.

 
At 7/11/2012 7:26 PM, Blogger guruphiliac said...

> David is a beautiful flower.

God bless you, and tell David I said hi. :)

 
At 9/25/2017 4:22 AM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

David Spero doesn't have any magic powers, but in some way his presence helps you to enliven your own inherent Shakti.

The reason some people doesn't realize this, is because you have't given yourself the oportunity to experienced it and you doubt your own spiritul growth.

 
At 10/24/2017 5:30 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

Amma offers tirelessly her time and energy to uplift millions and yet still people want to find something negative. The money collected goes to all of her charities and relief projects in India and around the world and yet somehow that has been overlooked in these posts. She is doing more than any woman in the world to uplift others and herself lives very simply she in fact does not rest herself which you would know if you travelled with her. Even after a few months one feels to stop and rest, yet she keeps going, all this and yet somehow still that is not enough. It is a miracle just the love and relief she provides in one day alone is a miracle, and yet still that is criticized. What can be done for a mind like that? All I can say is you all must have suffered in your lives allot and I am sad for you that such act of selflessness and goodness still leave you bitter, may you find fulfillment in your life.

 
At 10/24/2017 5:41 PM, Blogger guruphiliac said...

I published the above comment even though it has nothing to do with this post. It was written by an Ammachi apologist who is desperate to clear her own cognitive dissonance over the fact that Amma is a fraud and basically a gangster in India. Anyone who wants to learn about Ammachi should read this book: https://www.amazon.com/Holy-Hell-Memoir-Devotion-Madness-ebook/dp/B00GB83S3G/

 
At 2/04/2018 2:23 PM, Blogger guruphiliac said...

Having spent enough time with David to know, besides being a very sweet man all in all, I saw no evidence to support his claims, but I did observe that those who chose to believe what he said were eager to report their "experiences," which he always asked about immediately following the meditation. IOW, he put himself in a position to claim responsibility for whatever was experienced in the context of meditation with him, and those who accepted the idea of his power had no trouble "confirming" his powers for him.

 
At 5/10/2022 11:36 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

Sounds about exactly right.it took me a long time to realise that. I followed him for years.

 

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