Gurumayi Found On The Interwebs
File under: The Siddhi of PR
Sometimes we monitor our traffic referrals just to see where y'all are coming from. Most of you turn up after a Google search on this or that guru. And quite a number of you get here by using the search term: "where is Gurumayi?"
Well, search no more. A reader named Ram Blogwallah turns us on to the online debut of Gurumayi Chidvilasananda:
A Siddha Guru is a spiritual teacher, a master, whose identification with the supreme Self is uninterrupted. The unique and rare quality of a Siddha Guru is his or her capacity to awaken the spiritual energy, kundalini, in seekers through shaktipat.So far, it's all the same rock-hard boilerplate of SYDA yoga, all designed to have you chanting the Guru Gita at a TV screen image like it was God Herself via satellite.
It's all distressingly boring, and despite the fact that Gurumayi was the hottest female guru to grace the face of this planet since Anandamayi Ma, there really isn't much to see here, if she in fact wrote any of it.
But regardless of who penned this crap, it's seems to be a clear step toward the reactivation of her satsang. Not a good thing to our mind, or to those who belong to the substantial community of her disgruntled ex-devotees.
Labels: The Siddhi of PR
posted by guruphiliac @ 6:31 PM
30 Comments:
I don't get the comparison to Ananda MayiMa, Guru Mayi looks like a kid who needs a high chair when she sits at the grown-up table. I especially hate those contrived looking pictures of her chanting in the himalyas or wherever. well at least this site is letting people directly comment with an entity that preports to be Guru Mayi, Hey she's a bloger like you kids!! I still don't understand how you can expect to pay your fee and go get you some shaktipot, seems like the most unmystical of likelihoods. I can get a lot more just looking at Ananda Mayi Ma on You-tube.
thanks yomamma...AnandaMoyi Ma and gurumayi in the same sentence is enough to bring up my lunch!
anon.
The path to communion with the Divine is littered with boons and traps, and it is ultimately left to the seeker to discern which is which. For ultimately the experience of Oneness is the dissolution of all else - the seeker can become just as easily trapped in either or both.
Miracles, phenomena - they are neither the harbinger of the Divine experience, nor the vehicle to the Divine experience. The reported experiences of others are simply that and nothing more. The role of guru is to raise the disciple above him or herself on the ladder to God, not to keep them bound in obeisance or servitude.
Shaktipat is a flashy trick, but ultimately is a useless and irresponsible endrun around the natural and timely process of kundalini awakening - even moreso in the absence of the structure and guidance necessary to ensure correct and harmonious process.
But likewise don't fall into the similar trap of judgment and dismissal of those who seek to 'lead' through manipulation and glamour - they, too, serve as milestones and provide many lessons on the path to the ultimate Self Realization.
This is something that I found on the EX AMMA Yahoo Group; found it kind of interesting, meanwhile I will build my Alter to the glamourous ones just to thank them for all the good work they do.
D I S C E R N M E N T
At this time of transition, be very careful about who and what you are
following. In fact, if you are following at all, that is the first
indication that you are off track. For those of you who are still
students of gurus, we recommend discernment.
This is no longer a time of great spiritual teachers. It is now the
time of great spirits instead. This shift from master/student to just
plain master may cause a temporary unemployment problem in India and
elsewhere, but do not be alarmed.
The true masters of light will make the shift with ease and will
welcome your upcoming graduation with the same relief that they
welcome their much deserved retirement.
---
"The true masters of light will make the shift with ease and will
welcome your upcoming graduation with the same relief that they
welcome their much deserved retirement."<<
Well Yo, thanks....but...errrr..why do I get the feeling that alot of the "graduates" will be setting up shop themselves...lol.
anon.
I'm fascinated with your stated "primary aim":
Our primary aim is to inject a little humor into what can be an excessively self-righteous enterprise, and to illustrate the primary truth that no matter how divine their devotees believe them to be, gurus poop on the same pot we do.
When compared to what you really publish on your site:
He's an "American" guru who has hijacked the flimflam of pretty much every Indian scamatar out there. Enjoy the stink of a cesspool's worth of absolute bullshit:
That's pretty humorous stuff, no? Actually pretty bitter and angst ridden. Humor would be refreshing especially in the uptight world of spirituality. But what you have going here is basically a pot for your own poop. And yes, it really stinks.
And yes, it really stinks.
But in a really culturally relevant way, right?
Besides, Sadleir is doing exactly what I said. He mystifies rather than elucidates Vedantic truths, all for his own ends, which seems only to be to put money in his pockets. I think I went pretty easy on him, all in all.
You people spend an awful amount of time obsessing about a Guru that you are not interested in. Hmm, have you thought of going for therapy?
You people spend an awful amount of time obsessing about a Guru that you are not interested in. Hmm, have you thought of going for therapy?
If you ever took the time to research what's been written, you may notice your tired and worn out thought process is running on empty. This transparent reasoning has been used for years, and its sway no longer holds water.
The depth of discussion for people to understand their experience and no longer remain fearful, in any way, to the waterless regions used as a purposefully inserted verse of the GG, to instill fear (what a crock these charlatan gurus are) --people set "themselves" free from this toxic nonsense.
While it may bother you that people will always speak out about the truth uncovered and the corruption of the gurus, it does not mean it will go away because the same old lame rhetoric is be thrown about.
If the truth being spoken about openly bothers you, or allowing people the freedom to process and understand their involvement bothers you, you may indeed be the one in need of therapy.
"If the truth being spoken about openly bothers you, or allowing people the freedom to process and understand their involvement bothers you, you may indeed be the one in need of therapy."
It doesn't bother me at all. I like to keep myself informed. I know there have been problems in the organisation in the past (and it is certainly not the only organisation in the world to have similar issues). I just wonder why people have to be so bitter and keep making themselves feel upset, when they could process it in a more therapeutic way and move on with their lives. As far as I'm concerned personally, what any single person does or does not do (whether they are a guru or a devotee), does not affect the spiritual practices I have been taught nor does it affect my connection to my own inner Self. I myself hang out with other devotees in order to have support for the difficulties I face in everyday life. I don't know any nasty people in SY nowadays. The nasty people I came across have all left the organisation, thank goodness! I don't know where these people are now. I suppose some of them are in LSY, some of them joined other spiritual or religious groups, and some of them just went back into regular society, where they are probably out there torturing people in the workplace.
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You people spend an awful amount of time obsessing about a Guru that you are not interested in. Hmm, have you thought of going for therapy?
8/17/2007 11:24 PM "
Dear Divine,
just as one goes to a consumer website on cars to explore which ones are "lemons" and which ones are reliable...one might come here to read about "gurus"..which ones are "lemons" and which ones, if any, are "reliable". That's what this website is about. Would you go to a consumer website and say, "you people spend an awful amount of time obsessing about a car that you wouldn't buy..have you thought of going for therapy" ?
The phrase "buyer beware" is just as relevant in spiritual circles as it is in any other branch of "consumerism" in the USA today..unfortunately, what has become the
"bottom line" for so many of our current spiritual "teachers" is...the big Ka-Ching!
anon.
"I don't know any nasty people in SY nowadays. The nasty people I came across have all left the organisation, thank goodness! I don't know where these people are now. I suppose some of them are in LSY, some of them joined other spiritual or religious groups, and some of them just went back into regular society, where they are probably out there torturing people in the workplace"
And here we have a perfect example of the "mature spiritual attitude" as expressed by a syda devotee.
signed,
a perfectly ordinary human being
If the truth being spoken about openly bothers you, or allowing people the freedom to process and understand their involvement bothers you, you may indeed be the one in need of therapy."
It doesn't bother me at all.
If "It doesn't bother (you) at all", I doubt you would have taken the time to post your comments. Your own words deceive no one, except possibly you.
"And here we have a perfect example of the "mature spiritual attitude" as expressed by a syda devotee."
I had to giggle when I read this - boy, you really have got a chip on your shoulder. Perhaps you can't handle the fact that there are actually people in Siddha Yoga who are very happy and very sane. Open your eyes - we're not all bad, deluded or brainwashed. May the Force be with you. :) PS I won't be able to reply to your replies - for technical reasons, I'll be "computer-less" for the remainder of the week.
"I don't know any nasty people in SY nowadays. The nasty people I came across have all left the organisation, thank goodness! I don't know where these people are now. I suppose some of them are in LSY, some of them joined other spiritual or religious groups, and some of them just went back into regular society, where they are probably out there torturing people in the workplace"
And here we have a perfect example of the "mature spiritual attitude" as expressed by a syda devotee.
signed,
a perfectly ordinary human being
8/19/2007 4:00 PM
DivineAndGlorious said...
"And here we have a perfect example of the "mature spiritual attitude" as expressed by a syda devotee."
I had to giggle when I read this - boy, you really have got a chip on your shoulder. Perhaps you can't handle the fact that there are actually people in Siddha Yoga who are very happy and very sane. Open your eyes - we're not all bad, deluded or brainwashed. May the Force be with you. :) PS I won't be able to reply to your replies - for technical reasons, I'll be "computer-less" for the remainder of the week.
Reading with a clear eye on who has a chip on their shoulder seems to have missed a few posts, or maybe only intentionally ignored commenting on their content when making such a judgement.
""
I had to giggle when I read this - boy, you really have got a chip on your shoulder. Perhaps you can't handle the fact that there are actually people in Siddha Yoga who are very happy and very sane. Open your eyes - we're not all bad, deluded or brainwashed. May the Force be with you. :) PS I won't be able to reply to your replies - for technical reasons, I'll be "computer-less" for the remainder of the week"
Dear Divine One,
LOL! And...speaking of "therapy", ever heard the term "projection"??
I personally can "handle" any people, anywhere being happy..in fact, I do Metta practice everyday for all "sentient beings" (including syda devotees and their guru) as part of a regular committment...smile and laugh. But that doesn't prevent me from calling it like I see it! Speaking of which: I love how you do the "sneak attack" thing...offer a parting shot and then say "I'll be computer-less for the rest of the week"...too funny.
mirror mirror on the wall...lololol! :), :), :)
signed,
an ordinary human being
DivineAndGlorious said...
I just wonder why people have to be so bitter and keep making themselves feel upset, when they could process it in a more therapeutic way and move on with their lives.
Why just talk about it? Why not do it: Stop being bitter and upset, and move on with your life!
there are actually people in Siddha Yoga who are very happy and very sane.
It's possible that this commenter is indeed perfectly sane... but when someone adopts the name "DivineAndGlorious" for themself... reasonable people will wonder if there's a little delusion of grandeur going on.
Stuart
http://home.comcast.net/~sresnick2/socalled.htm
http://stuart-randomthoughts.blogspot.com/
"It's possible that this commenter is indeed perfectly sane... but when someone adopts the name "DivineAndGlorious" for themself... reasonable people will wonder if there's a little delusion of grandeur going on.
Stuart"
Ha ha ha. Good one! I called myself "DivineAndGlorious" because it was the first nutty thing that popped into my head. I had a good laugh at my "name" myself... ;) Anyway, computer is off now, and I can't read any more comments until around Fri/Sat. :(
i was reading the book eat, pray and love and was intrigued by the reference to the guru and the ashram in india. as a hindu who has been born and brought up in india, this whole self-aggrandizing guru phenomenon in the west is so annoying, and a complete anti-thesis of what they actually preach - if God is within you then so is a Guru. It's insulting and ironic that these people are using ancient and sacred indian philosophy to sell spiritual crapola to westerners disaffected by modern consumerism.
It's insulting and ironic that these people are using ancient and sacred indian philosophy to sell spiritual crapola to westerners disaffected by modern consumerism.
Actually, they are just offering the modern consumerist version of Hindu spirituality.
Actually, they are just offering the modern consumerist version of Hindu spirituality.
With SY it is a mixed bag of pop psychology and pop westernized/ quasi Hindu spirituality. It misses the genuine mark by a long shot.
I wrote to this Gurumayi on her blogsite to get her to reccommend a good but cheap plastic sturgeon for my horse faced wife! So far, no response...
With SY it is a mixed bag of pop psychology and pop westernized/ quasi Hindu spirituality.
In his "Become a Millionaire Self-Help Guru" blog posting, Steven Sashen wrote, "if you charge enough money and put a bunch of strangers in an unusual place you’re guaranteed to get 'results.'"
So I don't think SYDA experiences had all that much to do with specific teachings or practices or special energy. A group of people all acting together, thinking together, believing that they're part of something special... that in itself has tremendous power.
When the focus is on the community and good feelings and specialness, stuff like philosophy or theology is pretty much an after-thought.
Stuart
http://home.comcast.net/~sresnick2/socalled.htm
http://stuart-randomthoughts.blogspot.com/
". It's insulting and ironic that these people are using ancient and sacred indian philosophy to sell spiritual crapola to westerners disaffected by modern consumerism."<<
Yes, it is! And it's not just westerners who are buying...a very large proportion of satya sai baba's followers are Indian, not to mention sri sri ravi shankar, nirmala devi et. al. They all have ashrams in India and they all have many Indian followers.We westerners always expect Indians to be more savvy about these things....just as, I've been told by friends from Chennai, an Indian guru gains "status" from having western followers, westerners, seeing alot of Indians hanging around a guru, assume the guru must be bonafide! Hey, we should all TALK to each other...lol!
anon.
Apparently the Gurumayi blog that was referenced has now been taken down and off the web! Try accessing it....
"Apparently the Gurumayi blog that was referenced has now been taken down and off the web! Try accessing it...."
Yes, indeed. SYDA always makes people take all "non-official" websites down, which doesn't leave very much on the web that is positive, which is totally crazy if you ask me.
which is totally crazy if you ask me.
That sums up SY perfectly:
"totally crazy"
The Gurumayi blogspot was taken down, but the blog of one of her minions has suddenly appeared in its place:
http://swamivasudevananda.blogspot.com
Suddenly SYDA swami blogs appear to be popping up like mushrooms!
Must be the summer heat and humidity! Fungi, which feed on rot and dead things, thrive in such conditions.
Or....maybe it's a just SYDA's response to the impact of the Marta Szabo blog "The Guru Looked Good"....?
#1 said: "I especially hate those contrived looking pictures of her chanting in the himalyas or wherever."
Guess what it is Hawaii. lol Speak your mind but for God's sake use it first. How's the next trend going?
Hey I went to the swami blog and there were no posts there???
Wow that's another yogi that seems to have mastered the art of dematerialising!!
Or perhaps only his message can be heard in the silence.....
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