India's Former PM In The Closet With Sai Baba
File under: Gurubusting and Hands Where They Don't Belong
He may be a decrepit mess, but the kid-diddling Sai Baba still has pull with the pols in India:
Vajpayee, who is on a two-day visit to Karnataka for campaigning, was closeted with Sai Baba for nearly an hour in the company of his foster daughter Namita Bhattacharya, son-in-law Ranjan Bhattacharya and granddaughter Niharika.Even we don't wanna go there with that one.
Bottom line: sucking up to Sai Baba and other big-time gurus equals votes for Indian politicos. Since elections have been called for February, we can expect more of this sort of thing:
This is the second time Vajpayee has met Saibaba after the general election was announced [for] February 29. The first meeting last month was at the spiritual leader's ashram at Puttaparthi in Andhra Pradesh.But Mr. Vajpayee, sir, please don't trade your kids for votes next time.
Labels: Gurubusting, Hands Where They Don't Belong
posted by guruphiliac @ 5:34 PM
13 Comments:
Vajpayee is a former Prime Minister, not a current one. Unlike in the US where former Presidents (and even Vice Presidents) are still addressed as "Mr. President", in Parliamentary democracies this is not the practice.
Vajpayee is a former Prime Minister
Thanks so much for this correction. My map of current Indian politics can use the filling in.
Can anybody fill me in how Sai Baba is doing these days physically. Is he able to get around on his own or does he need constant help, even to go to the bathroom. Is he still seen as a Godman, as an Avatar? Is he still doing miracles, or has that stopped? Just curious because I remember Jody posting something about him awhile back where he seemed to be debilitated and many thought it was karma catching up to him. Would like to be filled in more if anybody has any info on Sai Baba.
Still doing miracles?
Given the various videos we've seen, he hasn't stopped doing them, because he never started doing them.
Not just Vpayee but there have been many other ex PMinisters and Presidents who have dropped in more than once. Narasimha Rao, Deve gowda, Rvenkatrman, SD sharma are such formers.
When i was hardly five, i heard my dad's brother telling me a lie and that was 'baba'has the power to bring dead people back to life. This was after i asked "who that dude with the afro hairdo? "
Infact it was baba;s early days picture with a hairstyle as if all his hair had a hard on at the same time, sitting pretty inside a golden frame on his office desktop. I beleived this stuff till the day, I handcrafted my first ever golden brown reefer in life. The still amuzing story is about another dude, who also is my another uncle who hung a calendar in the center of the living room in his very, very large house. He said "you never know, what if he really had powers?" so might as well hang him in a calendar atleast. I sometimes regret having had such uncles in my life. But if baba's grace worked that way, then what friggin choice i have with the happening of such childlike uncles in my life?
Another miracle story i forgot to add was my aunt, who was married to the uncle who hung the baba calendar. She said the holy ash that fell from the roof of her house on a full moon night was rubbed on the tits of her friend and Tally Ho ! the cancer that hung around her tits for a long time, hmm yes ! just vanished.
I never compelled my aunt sayin
'seeing is believing' i did not think it was a great idea to see some tits that just had some deadly cancer.
Semblance said...then what friggin choice i have with the happening of such childlike uncles in my life?
Semblance, now you understand why I’ve been spendin 6-7 hours per week at the Dime Box First Baptist, just in case the Bible is right and we really are about to get stung to death by six foot high scorpions with hair like women! It could be that Sigh Baba has powers, it could be that I might go to hell for missin a tent meetin or for eatin that piece of pie that was supposed to be for Chuck JR’s wife, or for blasphemin against the Holy Ghost! I was once told I was goin to hell for havin a calendar of Baby Hanuman and Baby Ganesh! I had a couple of uncles who lived in a shack together with chickens and a hog! These old boys were ripe and when they didn’t go to church, nobody complained!
I had a friend who saw a bellboy with an Afro when he was in a drug induced stupor or the bell boy came to him in a dream and saved him from dropping his burning ciggy butt, later suggestible girlfriend decides Bellboy musta been Sai Baba Voila! Baba story is born
OK... how did I miss this one yesterday? Damn!
Being in India, I live pretty much around people who believe that Sai Baba is 'almost' or 'is' God. I had this guy in college with me who believed that not even a grain of sand moved without Mr. Baba's permission.
"Bottom line: sucking up to Sai Baba and other big-time gurus equals votes for Indian politicos."
Though true, its mostly the other way round... these 'avatars' are always anxious to put themselves in the shadows of the 'more' famous people, to get more following and hence more money.
Who else are famous in India more than politicians and actors-turned-politicians? Add charitable activities (schools, hospitals... you name it) to their resume and voila! You have instant publicity! And hence more money!
And to answer an "Anon" about how Sai Baba is doing physically... you don't want to know. I even heard rumors that he has already "passed on" and someone else impersonates him now... but what do ya know? This is India... anything can happen.
- Ashwin
(http://achupichu.wordpress.com)
Ashwin, baba has crossed that need to know the more famous peepal. Remember baba is god himself. But with the advent of kracki and company, baba needs to conjure up new miracles. The age is catching up too, ask chuck here, who can narrate you endlessly the curse of the growing years in size and age.
Hey i tried a wild guess, if achupichu means mumbojumbo. Ignore if im wrong.
@Semblance:
Well, you got one close... Achupichu means something close to what you have said. We also use it to mark a person with 'silly behavior'. Not that I silly, mind you... far from it, LOL!
About my comment... I said thats its the case in general. Yes, with Baba, its different. But he started at that phase, if I know his history right.
"Remember baba is god himself."
I know better than to believe that nonsense.
- Ashwin
(http://achupichu.wordpress.com)
Atal Bihari Vajpayee,the poet-politician of India & perhaps the tallest statesman alive in India today,is in public life since the last 65 years.His association with the Sai Baba is more than 50 years old.Though I am not a Sathya Sai Baba devotee (my grandmother was a big-time devotee),still if devotion to Sathya Sai Baba has produced such a gem of a poet & politician (a very rare but desirable combination) then I think there must be something in the man.Furthermore,I find the worship of the Sai Baba of Shirdi (the original Sai Baba whose avatar this Sathya Sai Baba claims to be) more nauseating.The Sai Baba of shirdi apparently was an extraordinary Guru who lived & worked amongst the poorest of the poor & may have performed some incredible miracle healings in his time (the late 19th & early 21st century), but nowadays people are flocking to his "temple" in Shirdi built on his hut & administered by a trust formed by the State Government just to get their "wishes (desires)" fulfilled.Anything from transfers/postings to desired places,children's marriage,medical miracles,passing their exams,getting into IIT/IIM etc etc.It helps that most Indian Film Producers & Actors are Baba Bhakts so every 3rd Indian Movie (And Indians started making movies before Hollywood-mind you)features a situation in which some actor prays to Sai Baba & some problem gets miraculously solved.Sathya Sai Baba is a tiny tot compared to the original Sai Baba who is a hot commodity even now after 90 years of his death amongst an ever growing crowd of miracle seekers.Remember,Sathya Sai Baba is running his business by pretending to be this Sai Baba's avatar.Without the name Sai he would be nothing.Recently,my maid servant spent 20,000 rupees in the hope of his daughters good marriage by donating to the Sai Temple at Shirdi.I don't know how but her daughter is now happily married to a person with a secure goernment job.So now Sai Baba's 8 ft Marble statue at shirdi is going to get a gold crown courtesy my maid servant.My Opthalmologist couple naighbours' only son got his leg compound fractured in a car accident.Despite both of them being my city's leading eye-surgeons,this did not prevent them from "praying" to their family deity Sai Baba for their son's well being & when he got well,the whole family went to Shirdi with a 20 kg 24 karat gold throne studded with rubies costing around 2,00,000 dollars.
IF YOU ARE MERE DUMB "JOURNALIST" NUT BUT NOT DEVOTEE-YOU CAN NEVER UNDERSTAND SATHYA SAI BABA-LORD OF WORLDS-GOD OF GODS OR HIS POWERS OR MODUS OPERENDUS-TASTE THE SUGAR FIRST THEN TALK ABOUT IT IT IS OR IT IS NOT SWEET-WASTING YOUR PRECIOUS HUMAN LIVES-ONLY OPPORTUNITY TO FIND AND MEET GOD-ACTING AS MONKEY MINDS BUT TRYING TO UNDERSTAND OR EVEN TALK ABOUT SUPREME MIND OF GOD AND AS GOD-GO AND SEE AND THEN GIVE OPINIONS-TALKING OF GURU OF ALL GURUS OF ALL RELIGIONS AND TIMES AS JUST ANY OTHER COMMON GURU IS AN INSULT TO OUR SACRED HINDU CULTURE AND HINDU SOCIETY-HOW DID YOU KNOW PM BAJPAYEE WENT TO SATHYA SAI BABA TO SEEK VOTES OR WENT TO BE WITH HIS MOTHER-FATHER-GOD?-SEEMS YOUR PARENTS DID NOT TEACH YOU WELL-"WESTERN STYLE JOURNALISM" HAS FILLED YOUR BRAIN WITH UNSOUND NOTIONS
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