The Kalki Bhagavan's Money Lust
File under: Satscams and Gurus Clockin' Dollars
A reader relates his encounters with the minions of Kalki Bhagavan:
Looking at the comments of the ex-devotee whom you quoted:We can see them now, Kalki and Amma drooling as they watch the hapless Westerners open their wallets to help "save" the poor in India—from getting any of the money that is donated, that is.
"Although it does seem to us, that the program for foreigners (21 days, USD 5500) has resulted in some enlightened people (such as Freddie Nielsen and Kiara Windrider - we have heard they are enlightened.)"
Having lived in India for many years, (I did see then) and I do note again that if a westerner endorses something, then its OKAY. So these Indian folk look at the "white man" / "gora sahib" and feel that maybe the cult is fine, and is actually enlightening people.
Two years ago, I was in contact with people from the Kalki movement (and here I talk of westerners who were representing the movement, since I got their emails on the 2-3 official Kalki sites). They were exceedingly polite and sweet, and I felt really *great* talking to such evolved and kind souls.
Then, by mistake, one them forwarded a mail to me, and as I went down the mail and saw their conversation, I had the *shock of my life*, to find that they were only interested in getting money out of me, and others from that country. The language would have embarrassed even the most hardened salesman.
I remember one part where they were saying that a group of people from that country would be having a lot of money, lets offer them free space for the time being and as Bhagwan says "Try to extract as much as possible, who knows they might end up parting up with a lot of money. DO NOT waste this chance."
There was lots more of filth in those mails, but the mails are lost. I felt like someone who walked home one day and found his wife in bed with someone else. Shattered. I hung on to save face, and finally left, totally averse to spiritual organizations and people after that experience. It took a long time for that pain to recede.
You may recall that Sathya Sai Baba has cases of rape and murder on him, but is still going strong. Either because people are stupid, forgetful, don't do a background check ... So don't expect Kalki to dwindle and die off. The police and courts, and just about everyone, in India is exceedingly corrupt - donation money pays off anyone who speaks up - all court cases against Kalki are just dropping off mysteriously. No one there wants to piss off a godman, even if you are not sure about him.
People in the West can shrug off millions of Indians getting conned ("not our problem"), but we see that someone in India has a following of a million, we too often get impressed (not knowing that these millions could be illiterate Indians who may have just once in their entire lives popped by a Kalki temple, on their way to five other temples). When we join, and land up at the Kalki or Amma ashram, we get the front seat. Seeing one white-skinned follower immediately makes more Indians believe, so the numbers multiply, and then the next European/American is told that there are 2 million devotees.
I think its essential that people with bad experiences come out, so others are warned off, or are at least careful.
According to a friend, Bhagavan Kalki continues to get more and more traction here in the states:
It seems that in LA, and from what I've seen up here in SF, Kalki is the new thing. Sweeping the nondual scene. Forget Satsang! Forget nonduality. Give me bliss!Everyone wants to be "God's" favorite. That's the beauty of the Kalki scam. All he has to do is act as if he likes people personally. Then they'll do anything short of wetting themselves to please him. It's as easy as taking candy from babies. It is taking candy from babies, babies unwilling to see that fronting altruism makes a very effective smokescreen for greed, despite the fact that almost every scamming guru uses the same criminal subterfuge. You'd think someone would have caught a clue about that by now.
What a bunch of idiots is all that I can say. These are people I actually had some shred of respect for previously. One would think they would know better.
posted by guruphiliac @ 9:01 AM
209 Comments:
Excellent post. I just hope enough people read this, and realize what's being done to them.
Please keep this up.
Hai,
I want to share some information about kalki. His real name is Mr.Vijaya Kumar. He is a sacked employee of a insurance company. When he didn't find any job anywhere, he gathered some group of small children and made them as his agents. Now his agents ( Dasas) are collecting hume amounts of money from people and making kalki the richest man. He always hides in different places. He bought many lands in the name of trust ( to get income tax benefit), but never he or his agents did a small favour to poor. They need only people who can spend whatever they ask. He is a very big sentimental block mailer. He claims himself as god. He made his wife as goodess and he is planning to make his son ( Mr.Krishna) as next avator/god after him. If he is really a god why does he talks with rich people. Becoz, he needs only money. He has so many benz cars and he alwasy stays in costly houses and A/C Rooms. He enjoys his life like a king with his wife,son and daughter-in-laws. Poor agents( dasagis) spends their whole time for collecting money and they won't marry. Why should they waste their life for the sake this man.
For all the functions/events that they conduct they get donations from big people. Apart from this they collect fees for their courses.
You are absolutely right about Kalki Bagwan. As far as I know he was an LIC agent/employee in Perambur, Chennai. Today according to reliable estimates, owns around Rs400 to Rs600 Crores. I personaly saw the disintegration of my relatives' family blinded by the belief in this fraud. We must however accept the fact that he has (now 'they' as his wife also is enlightened!)the ability to seduce females with just his looks and speeches! The females both young and old in the said family are sexually attracted to him! Thats what makes him tick. Just like people go crazy when they see Michael Jackson or Madonna, such babas master the technique of making followers of the least suspecting minds. I wonder wether women followers get an orgasm looking at him. Thats how addicted they become.
I think, all of u mad or anti-kalki..i think all these type of anti comments are came to Lord Rama, Krishna, gesus Crisht....later they belived and praying as gods....u might be one of them...brown again now to contine the same... be go hell
Believe that there is a god who whats to help you.............as simple as that
poeple who have written against kalki i should say tht they havent know then facts as to how kalki has changed lives of several poor people and brought happiness and love in thir families. i think people who r writing against him are sheer stupids. i myself have seen people transformed drastcally. people who were murderers are full of love for life and kind to other now. those families who were on the verge of breaking up are living peacefully and serving mankind now. the one who says kalki moves in benz cars i think its stupidity to say such things whithout him having seen any such thing and please mind u people tht india in not surviving on ur money, india itself is very strong to prove to the rest of the world its prowess and dasas who r seving kalki r frm good families and hv come their at their own will. one thing everyone here wud agree tht no person can hold such large amount of people with magic rather its just divine energy and his supreme consciousness. i really feel pity for those who have posted such comments and pray for u guys tht u soon come out the central jail of ur mind and start living life.
To those who support Kalki,
Dont waste your resources and money.He is a spiritual fraud.Can any one give an empirical evidence of his miracles.If so,Kalki can take the money lying in a Bank account deposited by the great Abraham Kovoor.
People are get hypnotised by this bastard who has to be punished under criminal laws and should be sent to rigorous imprisonment.
I believe this man is up to something either very good or vey bad. I do not know his ghetto past, but if he's snathching poor desperate people's money then something should be done about it. The whole satiyuga thing coming in by 2012 sounds complete BS. For Lordy sake there are infinite differences between the two yugas and this crazy change would surely seem impossible to be done so quick in a manner of few years standing right in front of us. We live in a hopeless world, thus we are all desperate and it's people like him that lure us to empty our pockets and head(brain) to lick the good sounding lolipop he has to offer. If he's prooved as a sneaky character than he wouldn't be the first nor the last in his category, of the so called the handful rightous people left on earth.
Kalki (Mr. Vijay Kumar)was previously an LIC agent who started a Golden Age Foundation. He was caught doing fraud in this foundation. Then he reduced the activities in the golden age foundation and then he started the oneness university to be safe. As you know, people would alway support GodMen. People's weakness is his strength. Afterall, he was an LIC agent, don't you think he can't sell words to earn money - He is an expert in selling words. And that is what he is doing now. I still don't understand why his agents (dasagis) force us to donate money. Once they tried to force me so much to dontate Rs. 1,00,000 that I got irritated and denied and told them to never ask me again.
It is interesting to note that people do not want to experience a new phenomenon called the morphogenic field. Kalki is not the pioneer in the idea. Maharshi Mahesh yogi group and Nick Fiorenza have already made their contributions for a layman to know what this field effect is all about. The oneness group is practitioning this worldwide for people to experience. That's their conviction born out of their own discovery. Of course I have nothing to say on the money making side of it. But I guess those who are willing, pay on their own initative and urge. At the end of the day it is easy to pick words and throw allegations so long as one wants to take sides. I think gullible people are there on the planet and they are those who remain entrenched in the data mining and data analysis of the subconscious mind. For them these field effect gains are irrelevant and so be it. Bottom line message -if u need to experience something then stand by your own faith and conviction and then discover. Too much of expressive verbal outburst further pollutes the already polluted consciousness
It is interesting to note that people do not want to experience a new phenomenon called the morphogenic field. Kalki is not the pioneer in the idea. Maharshi Mahesh yogi group and Nick Fiorenza have already made their contributions for a layman to know what this field effect is all about.
Do your homework. Rupert Sheldrake introduced the idea of a morphogenic field back in 1981 with his book A New Science of LIfe. It was his speculative framework for understanding seemingly paranormal phenomena such as the now widely debunked 100th monkey phenomenon.
The oneness group is practitioning this worldwide for people to experience. That's their conviction born out of their own discovery.
It's not a discovery, it's an attempt to project a fantasy into enough people to make it a reality. It's a flimflamming con man's Trojan horse and it's made him rich.
Of course I have nothing to say on the money making side of it.
Of course you don't. That would belie a sense of critical understanding into the nature of the entire phenomenon.
But I guess those who are willing, pay on their own initative and urge.
By the encouragement of the criminal Bhagavan.
At the end of the day it is easy to pick words and throw allegations so long as one wants to take sides. I think gullible people are there on the planet and they are those who remain entrenched in the data mining and data analysis of the subconscious mind. For them these field effect gains are irrelevant and so be it. Bottom line message -if u need to experience something then stand by your own faith and conviction and then discover. Too much of expressive verbal outburst further pollutes the already polluted consciousness
All I have to say to that sulfur dioxide-filled outburst is "peeeeeeee ewwwwwww!"
Hi all, after reading all these messages i would like to give a small information. firstly i got to know abt amma bhagavan through a person whom i know very little. i didnt understand what he was saying n taking me with his friends n family. after reaching got to know that they all r praying a photo w amma bhagavan.
i do not want to comment on whether he is good or not. but i am a reiki channel and i do know about karma.
those who dont know about reiki, if practiced continuosly one can see any person's aura which is not seen by naked eye. only few r gifted or have divine powers who have other powers along with it like seeing future or sensing danger etc.,
bhagavan has got to know about few facts about earth magnetic field etc., which can gather through internet and spread in villages as villagers dont have much knowledge and doing reiki(it can be any other method also) he could tell few things abt them r in general. so people believe.
in internet i searched for the details and got shock of my life when he said about karma that its not each n every person but a whole or group of people. i do know what karma is all about and what he said is total trash
his devotees pray every week and one particular day of his birth star. one thing is clear when someone prays a person on his birth star day or for him he gets blessings r happens good to him. but devotees do not get anything out of praying him on his birth star day.
as per me i do not believe him as God/ Guru/ Messenger of God. but who am i to make judgement for others.
when you encounter such things get details, listen to what ur intution says and make ur own judgement.
Hey All,
Thanks for sharing ur experiences.
Yesterday I met a staunch devotee of Bhagvan and wnated to search about the facts on net.
I am a reader of J Krishnamoorty/Osho literature and somehow I felt that the vision/mission etc are direct copy from some of the literature.
The very fact that Mr. Bhagvan demands INR 1 lacs for his "PadyaPooja(feet touching ceremony)" makes a sensible person aware of his money lust. The fees for his various programs(Varadeeksha etc) is atleat INR 5000.
If you go through the "experiences" section of oneness university website, you would find sheer rubbish(blood dripping from his photo, divine healings etc).
Those ineterested in enlightenment etc may go through James Cadler website. This person sounds logical and realistic.
HI
No one in onness university is behind westerners or foreigners for money because if that was the fact the Shakthi Sthal construction would have got completed long back. Bhagwan never chose his devotees by their wealth there are many devotees who are below the poverty line and are still respected in the university.
People who earned lots through bhagwan and amma's grace pour in money as a sign of Gratitude.
No one in onness university is behind westerners or foreigners for money because if that was the fact the Shakthi Sthal construction would have got completed long back.
That monstrosity to Kracki and Cowmma's egos isn't finished because they are dumping money into their son's Hollywood movie production company.
People often say that Love is blind, meaning that it can see no fault in the beloved. That kind of blindness is the height of seeing.
If only you were always so blind as to behold no fault in anything.
Nay, clear and penetrating is the eye of Love. Therefore it sees no fault. When Love has purged your sight, then would you see nothing at all unworthy of your love. Only a love-shorn, faulty eye is ever busy finding faults. Whatever faults you find are only your own faults.
-- The Book Of Mirdad (edited)
Whatever faults you find are only your own faults.
Music to the ears of the flimflamming guru and cult indoctrinator.
ok let we think kalki as god.if he is god y he is taking the money from his devotees and god will never lead a luxrious life.for xample some people said about christ he never said that he is god and he in messenger of god he expected single penny frm his followers.do know for dharshanam of kalki he takes thousands to lakhs.I think true god never expect single any thing frm god but he will see true love thats it.
hi friends if kalki is really god then y he needs money and for talking to it is too expensive it goes to thousands to lakhs and if he is god y could save chennai from tsunami and y our country is still in backward state.he shoud show all mahimas shud prove as god.he is hitech baba givin publicity in variou channels.he is nicely leading luxurious life with other money.
BHAGAVAN SAID " WHATEVER YOU THINK ME TO BE, THAT I AM "....So if yu have faith you will have miracles...meaningful miracles is what I mean....but if yu dont have the unconditional faith , you shall have to wait.....yu cant describe the taste of nectar to soemone who hasnt sipped of it....it can be experienced only with unconditional, selfless love and unconditional complete trust and faith.....as Eintein said "Yu can live yur life in 2 ways : that nothing is a miracle or tht eveything int his world is a miracle " now its all upon you...its yur life...the CHOICE is yours....GOD BLESS YOU
Hi,
I read all of your above comments. Actually I dont have any belief in Kalki till now. Some television channels are displaying Kalki as fraud in news since my childhood. Now, recently I met with a friend and came to know that his god is Kalki. He says Kalki has given eyes to blind, removed diseases etc., and also says that if you belive then you will find change. I asked why he takes money then?, Why every blind does not go to him? At present, am in confusion state to belive Kalki or not.
When we find a God why dont one just ask for history of him? or why dont one ask him to proove a mircale in front of media by giving eyes to a blind etc., Just, Why dont we still have a STRONG Evidence ???
A Human Being is the creature in the world that speaks,thinks, expresses,loves,fights,belives and it is the supreme creature in the world when compared with other creatures. Even though, It will be in need of a belief on some other superstious power, It thinks it need a guide in the form of a god to make the things better in life.
When one feel depressed with life then s/he reaches/thinks of a god and accepts anything at that moment. Its like accepting any item when one feel thirst/hunger.
We do have books stories on Christ that he has done many miracles. We do know that Lord Shiridi SaiBaba has done many miracles. When we think/read any book of the above said Gods we will find every page, every chapter a miracle.
So, why dont we have any article/book or any proof on Kalki on his miracles? Why can't we find a miracle every day with him? Why we are not able to see a miracle happening to other by Kalki, atleast a single one a day.
I have searched a lot for a single article that could mention about the miracles of Kalki but I couldn't find.
Now, I have two questions mentioned below:
What God requires from a Human ?
Is it Money?
and
What a devotee/human requires from God ?
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If a God asks money for construction/yajna/darshan/pooja from a person then how can he make a devotee rich if that devotee asks him to make rich.
If a God himself keeps/uses the money of around INR 400 to INR 600 Crores for his purposes then how can a poor fellow survive ??? How can the poor get money ??? There is no chance of rotation of money here.
I have some more information to share. But still I am researching. I could not scold or I don't want to hurt one's belief on Kalki. Even, I am eager to find a strong proof of his miracle so that I could become his devotee :).
C U Soon...
Many of allegations were on taking more money. None have suffered by contributing to the auspicious cause of constructing a huge temple in varadapalayam to be opened for the entire humanity in the world. So far man have been constructing temples for God. It is reverse here, where the Avatar himself is constructing temple for people. He is Divine. None have born so far with such Divine force. Money collected from people are used for auspicious causes and for the welfare of the humanity which you may not aware of. we attract only negative things and seek cheap recognition by contradicting Divine before public. I sincerely warn that any remarks which hampers the progress of humanity will not go unrewarded and shall pay several times over. Either you experience him or leave him alone. None of your remarks would deter him or his followers from the path of transforming the consciousness of humanity for the best from the best.
Either you experience him or leave him alone.
He is nothing more than a common criminal, and you are nothing more than a fool for believing in him.
Well its waste of time to comment or doing whatever on the selfish/cheating babas.
If he is a real god should get water from the ground like Saibaba Or he should show a power to shower rains which help the farmers. He could give eyes for blind people in front of media and proove atleast once in his life time... And this is NOT GOING TO HAPPEN IN YOUR LIFE TIME OR HIS...
Anyways, people who get experience of DEVIL they belive in DEVIL and no one could belive that person And people would not believe if a person says if he seen a real god.
Its a matter of belive or unbelive and it should. But it should not relate to money.
In science I heard a subject called Mass Histeria. Even you people can know whats this subject and how this relates to our subject.
The matter where rediculous process goes on is, asking thousands of money for Darshan Sake and this is COMPULSARY. Thousands of temples in this world just have HUNDIs and they dont insist the devotees for money.
I could say to public that, nothing will be wrong if you belive him unless you lost thousands of your valuable money and time on these kind of people.
However, who got success with this god, I congratulate them.
No more arguments.
Bye and Bye...
I have been a devotee of this man for years and I checked to my dissapointment that he has no powers at all.He promised to me many events that never happened and when seeing him again he could not even remenber me and again promised to me something else very incoherent with the first promises.His last technic is to ask the dasas who are in another room about when you will be enlightened. Then they come back to you in the room in just two minutes a say to you your date of enlightenment but even for that you have to come back again to india and pay another expensive four days course.He already promised that to me four years ago and nothing happened. If you want to check this movement for your security just stop paying!! and you will soon check for yourself how they abandone you inmediatly.Another sign you may get comes from his representatives abroad, They all look like bussiness men and women only interested in sending more and more people to india so that golden city can continue cashing inmense amounts of money.When you ask to them what went wrong with your enlightenment they even get angry so you may check how enlightened they may be..People who have no money are not contacted a second time.Many people here in Argentina are been seriously psicologicaly damaged as they get fully addicted to this ego schizophrenia,They are abandoning their families and mates and stop doing everything in their lives beacause they believe that this kalki is going to do it for them. This Kalki , i assure you,does not even remenber you right now...!!The devotees are so perfectly brainwashed in india that they are giving a lot of money every year for the sake of an enlightenment that never arrives.Gurufiliac is doing a great job to stop all these clear scams.By the way if you are angry because of this post or other anti post,know that you are either enlightened,so wake up.¡¡Alejandro Guz. Argentina
He is an Avtara Purush.
There is a time for everthing,wait for a time and all will belive that he can transform the lives of other.
I have experienced the peace and power in Satyaloka and in Golden Temple.
Alps-London
HI all,
I doesn't belive Amma & Bhagavan as god and goddess . But, I can aceept few concept of him which is experiment by me. I had some doubts about Golden Age and oneness university?.
can any one give the details for following question .
1) When the Golden Age Starts.......ends and what it means ?
2) Is there any comment on vedas or any other book when the kalki avthar going to born in this world ?
3) What is karma ? Where it is starts in men life ( before birth,on birth or after birth ). and is there any end to that karma?
These are 4 yuga's as i know.
Satya Yuga or Krita Yuga - 1,728,000 years
Treta Yuga - 1,296,000 years
Dvapara Yuga - 864,000 years
Kali Yuga - 432,000 years
Kali Yuga began at midnight (00:00) on 18 February 3102 BCE in the proleptic Julian calendar or 23 January 3102 BCE in the proleptic Gregorian calendar, which is also considered by many Hindus to be the time that Krishna left to his own abode.
Please Devotees , you people know these.can ANY of you answer the above questions and below too ?
if he is the god why he is not moving around the wolrd to reach the people who all are suffering instaed of sending the dasas?
if he is the god why they frequently changing the method of teaching the cource. and fixing the price for those cources. if he want to enlight the people really he can offer the cource freely and can ask donation with the people if they satisfied they can pay am i right? .
if he is the god, he must know the 60,000 people who are going to sit in the GC. ( as some devotee mentaion )Why he is not calling those person and enlighted them instead of doing others . is there any problem of calling them? if he facing problem by calling those people then how he can do with others ?
As i know no god or goddess force some body to do pooja's for them. But why the dasas doing this on behalf of them?
Why the dasas giving negative that's to some body like "if you would have not came here, you would have committed suicide."?
then we can consider about the A&B.
This is legal robbery. His well trained network of people can tempt or scare most people taking advantage of the problems they face. Strangely, he keeps making promises that never meterialize but his "devoutees" conveniently forget about it. His clever teachings make them think that he is genuine. One of his miracles is shoes move when you put your hands on it. (and they should be kalki's shoes of course) I used to play a game of ghost when I was little. I would put my finger on an inverted cup and it would move on paper! I used to ask it all sorts of questions and it would move to YES or NO circles on the paper. They are now doing the same thing. It is just psychological. He told my sister would have a boy. It turned out to be a girl. He then told that he changed the situation for the benefit of something. Unfortunately she is willing to believe anything. He makes good use of that belief. This infamous Kalki was once put behind bars in the mid 90s but somehow managed to get all the cases dropped on him. His fees are climbing steeply as demand increases. Hope the Government of India would do something to investigate and stop this legal Robbery.
I have read all the posts here and I want to say that it seems like Sri Bhagavan is really after money. You dont need to be Einstein to realize that spiritual progress should not involve money at all. He can charge almost 1/10 of the 5500 dollars and still manage to run his setup. But all said and done, the people who actually come here to his university come with hope, and willingness to understand god. I think with this hope only they can receive some sort of spiritual awakening such as better concentration, less anxiety, more peace, etc. Actually you dont need to come to this university at all to experience these, but for foreigners coming to exotic place like India alone is enough to stimulate their interest in seeking to improve their lives. Now this being a money making technique, sure it is bad, but there are hundreds of other criminals, gangsters, politicians who are actually causing 100,000 worse problems than this university and they are the ones we should be concentrating on. Let this man and his university be and who knows, some people are actually benefiting from him. If people want to complain, come up with something better and help mankind, and appreciate that this world has all kinds of people, and even Bhagavan is just a human being. Him taking large amounts of money like this will only aggravate his karma which only the divine soul knows what to do best with him. So pray for him and everyone who visits him should all get divine blessings knowingly or unknowingly. May god bless all.
Let this man and his university be
Not as long as he rapes the truths of Vedanta for his own nefarious and entirely ego-ridden purpose.
Thank you for the post.From now on I'm gonna watch out for Kalki and his trick are no getting me...
The "Bhagavan", a former clerk for insurance in India, is nothing more than a money launderer and scam artist. All of what you see is a "show", and no real substance. BE VERY CAREFUL, HE IS A CRIMINAL.
hi friends ,
i read almost all the posts.
scriptures say when gautam buddha got enlightend demigods requested him to say some thing , he just replyed"those who will find truth will find even without my saying any thing ,and those who wont find the truth will not attain even if shout."it is said demigods said that we think there must me many in between the state of true seekers and true non seekers , it is for the benefit of those that u should speak. it is said that then he started to speak.
importent thingis that , is there truth to be sreached ? is it possible for any one to find the truth ?kalki is he enlightened god or not how can we know ? yes we r free to blame him or love him depending upon what experiences we gather dealing with him. as species of stimulus and responce we respond as we get the stimulus. so i agree to all who say he is a business man . but i will give benefit of doubt to kalki to let him free from being called a criminal. becoz to call some one criminal court has to convict him .
but i would come back to the point whether there is a state of oneness , or a mental state where we r not the slave but a king of the mind ? if kalki not inspiring trudt inus , he is failing and also if we r getting depended on him more and more instead of becoming internally free , it involves fault of both kalki and the devontee. people get addicted to alcohol and smoking , these poor devotees r only addicted to kalki's foto etc. but friends i want to tell u one secret that there is truth to be sreached , u may get it thru kalki or at ur home , if u r willing to .also if we want use kalki to fullfill our desires , we have to give this man freedom to let this man use his devotees from his desire. if u dont want a weak god , god doest want a poor devotee, i am just jokingly telling the harsh facts of life.
if u want truth u will get and no one can stop u , only once u see the real truth , u can say about any one claming himself about being realised. u see only god can fight god , but strangly once u r realised u dont have time for this stuff.kalki is clamming some thing that we want . but some thing that u want is available only if u r willing for that, if u r will is of proper grade and u r following proper method any thing is possible , u dont need any agents u dont even need god . after all ifu realise god , how can we call it "Self realisation"?
if u feel i am just wasting mine and ur time search the truth , its just around the corner, after all its ur self .
see ya
ur mails r invited
hi
this is for jody and other non-believers.....its good start that u have not believed kalki as god, but i ask u to dare challenge him in ur heart that if he is really god to prove himself to u by solving some of ur unresolved problems, and plz dont even spend a dime or cent on him till u think its worth spending....there are many temples of lord venkateshwara and lord krishna all over the world covering the shrine with gold, jewellery and diamonds (nothing but donations), etc and there are beggars also sitting in the entrance of their temples....have u non-believers ever questined why the poor still found in the temple while the god is decorated filthy rich?!! or have u ever questioned why there are calamities still continuing....when moses crossed river nile (which miraculously paved way to moses and his followers) and later when he went to get the ten commandments, some of the people down waiting became anti-moses, but who really experienced the grace from moses never went against him....the result, earth parted and anti-moses people had to fell into it.
i dont criticize u non-believers for u have not experienced his grace, if u taste nector then u can strongly say tht its sweet in taste , if not u wil hang around others version about its taste.....so i recommend u to ask kalki in your mind to prove himself to u and not to spend an money if u feel its not worth it!!!!
According to me the Kaliyuga has 432000 year and only 6000 years have past. Its a long way for satyug to come. Today the science or technology age is at a turning point. A war can happen any time in coming few years. If no war happens and there is no major change in the current technology which is being adopted then this technology will become a curse to the humanity. This will start happening after 2010.
Vijaykumar is a criminal.
Nothing but lies cover the truth.
He and his co consipirator wife are scam artists at the very best. They have bilked thousands out of millions of dollars.
The government of India, UK, China and U.S. are now investigating his and his son's money laundering in 12 countries.
Stay away, get away. HE IS A FRAUD!
Hi Frnds,
nice to see ur openions and different views on the same topic,
Who is god?? he/she is nothing but ENERGY that we usually call it as a SUPER Conscious which is above our sub-consciuos. and once the person starts feeling that superconscious which is intern we part of that ENERGY behind all these creations... when a person experience that state then only he can accept everything as if he is that.. i mean.. he feels as if he is a SONG when its running in d background.. or feels as if he is the other person.. so he doenot hurt anyone why b'coz he hurts himself... everything on universe has a life.... we naming ourselves very rational minds think that we are the supreme creature of the universe...
i have heard about Amma Bhagavan abd been to Namem.. and i felt nothing ... but ppl were saying different stories and ofcourse no-one forced me to accept anything...
and coming to FAITH on Kalki... we human beings can either believe on ourselves..(whcih is very rare in nature) or on any other form like god.. or even we sometimes believe in others words to be so real that it will come true and feel relaxed too. that means we have our individual FAITH OBJCTS... it can be anything.. here in this its AMMA Bhagvan...
UNSHATTERED FAITH makes miracles....
what do u mean by miracles??? those that are as per NATURES LAWS.. not against themm.. its makes sense of MIRACLES..even we sometime call the person who helps us in crisis a form of GOD.. means everything happens when its time comes and a proper space is given to function the whole universe to materialise it to come ot reality.. everything is nothing but a product of your thinkng and thoughts running behinf\d the screen..
bye all
Good discussion. I am not sure about kalki/Amma Bhavan's (AB) power. As said above, these people are collecting nearly 5k for the courses and 20k for 5 minutes discussion with AB is too much. And i heard the queue standing to meet AB is increasing. But this groups are using physchological factors for conducting the programmes and touches the people's emotions and feelings. I think most of the people opting are, either in "depression" or "bored in life" or either "not able to handle their life themselves". If he is god, then why they he is asking to attend the training and then giving deeksha? Also the funniest part is they are collecting 3 seperate DDs which breaks/splits the amount of 5.7k INR. Funny.
Is that for running out of paying income tax? Still Experimenting.....
I am not sure about kalki/Amma Bhavan's (AB) power
Their "power" is entirely a function of their flimflamming. Belief is its own engine of delusion. All it takes to "see" their power is to believe in it. Kracki preys on peoples' vulnerabilities, such as that of wanting to be liked or to feel special, and of those who are just looking for a little happiness in their miserable lives. He "fills" those needs by lying to people about his power to correct their perceived lacking. The "miracle" is that people believe he has that power, and so they manifest the result themselves by way of the placebo effect. It's mere faith healing a la any holy rolling TV preacher in the States, but done India-style.
Thanks for the good discussion initiated.
I am awakened before going to AB or touching him.
All is how you take and how you feel yourself. Have faith in self and you can achieve more...
What I like in AB is his prayer methods. Practically Prayers in general works.
So direct prayer power to self, use the skills and methods to improve self and people surrounding. You need not pay money to get self awakening.
All is required is your mind self trust, faith and love to self. Belive in your own actions.
Use money for helping people surrounding,poor,unskilled...
Dont waste your hard earned money on such Bhgavan. Belive in self.
Dont belive in others blindly.
God is not out side. He is in you. He is everywhere.Feel him.Ask help with full confidence he will help.Dont dought your own energy.Prayer has power.
Thanks for the discussion.
Let all get awakened.Let all be happy.
The TRUTH is about to happen.
Kalki and Amma and the son Krishna Nemam are about to go to jail.
INTERPOL and the US, India, UK and China are investigating multi country money laundering, fraud, crimes, scams and the evasive tactics of the 3.
Let's see if they can get some "oneness" in a cold jail cell for the next 20 years or so.
I first watched this Kalki on Tv and thought he was okay but then I heard him project himself and his wife as livings gods.
I think any one with half a brain can decipher that this is sheer nonsense and a ploy to milk folk for money .
I am an indian girl and I please advise all foreigners and indians to stop worshipping a mere human. Have some self respect. There is a God but sorry he is not this kalki and his wife . Get real folk !
Yes it must be stated that there is a lot of shinanagins with the deeksha laying on of hands the old faith healers and the modern ones also benny Hynn for one uses this trick and if any of you know about NLP and anchoring of good feelings then you have it sussed, finally tony robbins in the oneness movement that says it all, beware wolf in sheep clothing. be free
Do you all need to disect other people, God or No God ?? Do good , you shall reap Good many times over. You people are wasting time in finding fault-
Start looking inside yourself, you shall surely find truth. (learn this inward journey- IT IS THE MOST IMPORTANT
Bless Yourself
Just like fraud Vijayakumar, many of the followers are also frauds. Innocent idiots are also trapped by these frauds.
hi
its so wonder tht u got a conversation of those ppl abt extracting money frm u 'accidentally'
n again u lost tht mail 'accidentally'
funny isnt it??
Dear brothers and sisters,
Really, I am sincerely impressed by the beauty of all your convictions I read every single one of the above posts, seeking only truth and honesty.
No one can claim to have the all the answers, because true knowledge comes in first asking the right questions.
Today, everything is backwards/upside down. Doctors destroy health. Lawyers destroy justice. Universities destroy knowledge. Governments destroy freedom. Media destroys information. Religion destroys spirituality.
So, to ask the right questions as to why this is so means to look for them also in the right places. The Guru/Master/God you seek for the answers is right under your noses. It is your SELF. When speaking of enlightenment and oneness with God, do not think luminescence. Think weight, and a great secret will come to you.
If the great Buddha the Compassionate taught us anything, it is that your suffering is your guide -- he sat contemplating this under the Bodhi tree. Do not drug your suffering out of existence or seek to have it cured by self-proclaimed man-gods, gurus, shamans, or priests.
True Masters will only point you in the right direction, which leads straight to your SELF. You are the one that you have been waiting for, not iconic messiah figures. Look to your self and your heart for answers.
No where else.
"To perceive is to suffer." -- Aristotle.
Thanks for all commands.I belive kalki is a Guru or profit ,All Gurus like Budda, Crist, Nova , Moosa ,Rama ,Vivekanantha ,Mahaver and all man born are not a God.But they have got some power from god,They all have different ways and laws depends upon the time,like that now with out money nothing, So that is not a matter but he have some super power so belive him you can get chanches in life
Dear friends,
I read all above postings. Some commented good and some bad about this man (Kalki). First of all, we all should question ourselves. What is God? As nobody knows when and how this creation started, people started putting forward many theories about God. What is the truth, nobody knows. If at all there is God, what is His attributes? Is there a way either to see Him or realize Him? If there is a way what is it? Till now, only evidences we have are from Vedas and words transmitted from sages through generations. According to these scriptures, God is a realization through deep meditation when one reaches beyond one's mind? This can be attained only through pure & perfect minds. To have that pure and perfect mind one should go through rigorous practice of self discipline, practice for few months and sometimes years. Once pure mind is attained then only one can go deep into meditation and have things revealed. Without undergoing these steps, nobody is going to realize God. This is the final truth and this theory holds good for everything on the earth and in this universe. Ignoring this fact and believing in people who proclaim themselves Gods (like Sai Baba, Kalki and many others in present days) is a real ignorance. Even Rama, Krishna and many other Gods we believe and worship is just a belief. The reality is that God has never taken any incarnation on Earth. For that matter, everything is Him then where is the necessity for Him to take form as Avatar! They really need 'Gyana'(the light of wisdom). Other than this I don't want to comment anything. I don't think one can see God with our senses including mind which are limited in their power.
what is mahima patel doing
with this fraud and a dirty money
sucker?
The person who r telling against the kalki avatar and the teaching of oneness university r doing nothing but earning a supreme kind of bad karmas that would never leave them until and unless they r able to understand the divine grace of sri amma and bhagwan and experince their love with total devotion.So guys and gals u have created your bad days with your bad karma.Now the way only is to go to the feet of amman and bhagwan and ask for forgivness or invite the hell.may god bless you.
the way only is to go to the feet of amman and bhagwan
And spit on them for being inveterate criminals and ignorance peddling assholes.
Hi Foreign Friends,
Don't believe new age gurus, they are after your money. Pray to the almighty who is there. God is never personal or persona, no body can show God.
Do as much research as possible before believing any such fraud guru's
Wake up friends, why they want your money? I am ashamed that many claim to be yogis from India and after money of foreigners when so many in India are suffering
Wake up
Hi..
I dont know about amma and bhagvan. However i have planned to go to 'NEMAM' on this week-end. I will express my experience after i returned from there..
Your mother and father are your real Amma & Bhagawan.
Purchase small pocket Shrimurti (Photo)of Amma & Bhagawan Rs. 2only
or ask for any person he will give you free. Then see the result whether you trust/belive or not.
Somnath Barne
Hadapsar Pune 28
Dear All,
Please dont waste your time in blaming others. It is upto individuals to believe or not. It depends on individuals how they look at the things. Do some good thing to yourself and also to others.
Good Article! This article should reach out to all those housewives(especially in AndhraPradesh,India) who are great "devotees" of this so called "Amma Bhagwan". Its all in the head. People experience some miracles because of psychology and start believing and praying this GOD. These Dasas have left their home and family and do brainwashing by teaching some of the most obvious things of life in a emotional way. I was so impressed by the ambience that these guys create to preach. Anyone who gets brainwashed in such a environment would start believing in anything!! And what shall i say about the jewellery that Kalki's wife shows off(phew)!!! I hope the reality of this so called Kalki Avatar comes out to the public and people stop wasting their time,money and energy on such things.
PS: I hope the huge temple that was built by Kalki for himself :) would be used for a better purpose by the government.
kalki Bhagavan / Amma bhagavan and his son Krishna wife preetha , Preetha's mother Lakshmi father Ram bhagavad dasa and elder daughter Arathi - are pure crinimals. These people along with kalki's brothers are involved in this family business called enlightment. These bastards should be in jail. Their days are numbered - SURE THEY WILL GO TO JAIL. KALKI AND HIS SON MIGHT TRY TO ESCAPE TO ANOTHER COUNTRY - Interpol ,Indian Govt , tamilnadu govt , andhrapradesh govt - US GOVT, Singapore Govt are watching. His days are numbered !!!!!
Kalki / Amma Bhagavan - Every day in the morning gets up from his bed along with his wife amma bhagavan - brushes his smelly teeth, drinks coffee and then goes to the loo and does a nasty smelling pupiee and washes his hands and with the same hands he and his fat nasty wife bless indians DO YOU GUYS REALISE WHAT IS GOING ON. THIS SPRITUAL FRAUD / SHELFISH BASTARD WILL GO TO HELL ONEDAY.THAT DAY WILL BE INDEPENDENCE DAY FOR HIS BELIVERS.
They collect money,produces and other articles. They never give free meals. One has to pay for meals.
They buy in bulk and give free mobile phones to their agents. If you notice the numbers only the last three numbers are different on many phones.It is a well set up game. Even to these crooks they charge a lot of money from the poor people. Many educated people are following this and become idiots.
Amma Bahavan , please help them, tell the truth, tell them you are ordinary people and ask them not to follow you.
It would be good if lots of people who know the facts were to email expose links to "oneness givers" in their home country or state. Such as Freddy Nielsen's history of Kalki, and the webpage from the author of Deeksha Fire who now exposes Kalki. I found several great webpages by googling for oneness and fraud or scam. And there are new competing blessings - same or higher energy, but cleansed of the fallen vibration of bagwan kalki and amma.
Dear Friends,
Any thing in human form as god repesenting will get a (-)ve response as well apart from followers. For this Bible Storiesare best examples. Now some post a comment that he is Vijay Kumar & son is Krishna. Some post another comment that he is saviour. Now in case some of his followers belive that their master / guru's reputation is to besaved then they should immediately get on to heels and write adecent life history of Kalki with out notions & jargons.
Look at the Gurus of 20th century from India world got; Sri Shirdi Fakeer / Sai Baba; Sri Ramakrishna Paramhamsa/ Madman who prayed his wife as Kali; Swami Vivekanada / Narendranath a naughty boy turned safforn robed said "....today's youth need less a Gita & more a football...", well freinds we have to look at gold as gold and still it has impurity may be to the standards of KDM / 916 / BIS.
Good luck to the Kalki followers for starting his truth book on his raise from a average amn to godman.
JK
Hello, this is on the money lust of Kalki.
It is true that this man is nothing but a con artist who got no depth in the spirituality that he unleashes on unsuspecting masses. It is all to get money and more money, he cheats and his techniques are half baked. I recently attended a enlightnement program and i got back with no change but of more clarity that this man is nothing but a sham.
The so called guru got some hypnotic power with which he creates illusion thereby making mass to believe that he has supreme power. This can be proved in scientific terms.
No where he has done any miracle. And he has used unpaid labor known as sevaks to network and bring more people to his movement. This is simply a MLM business, where the so called devotees does not get any money back for thier investment.
One program for a day cost 10,000 Rs. you go and sit and do some exercise and a prayer in a temple and sit before this man where he sits closing his eyes and you get a hug therapy and come back enlightened. What a shame on us ?
He has no accoutability and no return on our investment. Imagine just on one day he makes more than one crore of rupees.
It has been going on for more than 10 years now and where did all these money go.
He does not bring any concrete results. He works on borderline so that no one can question about him or his movement. Simply wants people to be in misery so that they will go to him again and again and pay huge amount of money for that.
This messiah has no healing power nor he has any interest on people. To think of the sevaks who network to bring more and more people to the movement, their family lives have disintegrated to large extent. He concentrates mostly on ladies who are single and working so that they can network better.
In the end if you look at it, he is ingenious in using spirituality as his source of money and has devised ways in which he does not have any accountability. He does not have any message at all to people. It is all very expensive and thier agents are one arrogant lot.
His opening of the temple is one incident where he master minded it to such extent where it is no longer accessible for the mass from whom he made all his money. It is only a select few that can access the temple and the golden ball that he talks about is nothing but PURE SCAM. There is no power there. It is only to attract foreigners like Osho movement, where in around 8000 people can sit and meditate at one time. It is pure selling strategy where he used people's money to build it, in the name of god.
I wonder how the government allowed such a big cheating exercise done by one man. How did they allow this concept of selling moksha for a fee that too huge fee. Where did judiciary go ? Is there not one person who has questioned on to the activities of this movement and how is he allowed to charge such huge fees for his stupid programs and so called process.
He has been given complete freedom to run his show without any sweat so far. I wonder all the politicians are behind him and no one in the assembly has called for any answers. What is the police doing ? somebody is cheating you on your face and you go away.. Recently lot of MLM cases were invetigated, this is also an MLM networking only but with no returns.
Police should investigate this amma bhagavan and come out with the truth that he is nothing but a salesman who made crores on poor people's hard work.
Curtail him from exploiting people and thier money and his so called dasaji agents should be stopped from soliciting money from people.
His temple should be ceased and i wonder how he got permission to build one such monstority. And his university, should not be recognised as he will only use it to make even more money where he will take not only indians but foriegners for granted.
All his bank accounts have to audited and traced as to where he has stashed all the money made so far.
This is not a spiritual guru nor an avatar and not even a human resource consultant. Infact he works backward by making people insecure rather than strengthening them. If you attend one program you will know what crap he talks about.
It is the role of the government to stop this arrogance and put him under arrest and stop all rubbish that he unleashes on unsuspecting masses.
Can a beggar get Dikshai from kalki Bhagavan for free of cost? So does it mean only rich people can see him? Does God likes only rich people? This is all rubbish.
Hi. This infact a very interesting topic of discussion. I came to know about this individual through a close relative of mine. He said he usually never believes in human gods but said that a personal experience made him change his beliefs. Well i do not intend in elaborating the incident, but i think there is no such thing as a human god. Most people would agree on the point, why does he take money?? If he is doing a service for humanity then it should be free. Well the thing about healing, as far as i know and from my understanding, any disease can be fought with the mind. Will power is the only medicine for any disease. My cousins father was diagnosed with Cancer and said that he would probably die within 2 months. You wont believe this, he lived for 17 years. That is the power of the mind. Lance Armstrong, survived Cancer, through will power. So what this kalki bagwan does is ask people to pray and think positively and when people really follow it, hey you have your disease cured and viola the man is god!!! Well to be honest what he does is mass hypnotism and sells his theories to the gullible to spread the word. I say just believe in the Gods of your religion and pray to them. Think positively in life and it will reap benefits and you do not need a human god for that.
yes i also going to his oneness university, if you enter the university before you pay the money 5000/- check then only you attend the class, every thing has money there, they told the people you ask anything to there you ask money, car gold anything to kalki can be given within one month. People believe there speech but nothing to happen. please don't wast you money
Dear Friends
Time has come to show the way of reality and face the karma to SO CALLED AMMA BHAGAVAN....as my sources there are 84 dasa...out of the cult of oneness....they were serving the moment from last 15 years but...when they came to know about the reality of so called god ...and their motive....wait for more revelatoin to come...i am glad to come out of the oneness.....
This false kalki and their dasas scamed to me about 8.000 euros.Many people are still being scamed for nothing on a yearly basis.Also they made me have drugs(leghiom) without letting me know, so as to manipulate me to come again and again and pay for more show processes.I am sure we will soon see the end of these miserable scammers which not only make big fraud but missuse the name of the true avatars of India.People taking part of this movement must know that they are taking part in a huge scam, and therefore are scamming others aswell.To replace a true kalki for a true scammer is the biggest fault.
i congratulate you all because negative or positive you are talking and thinking about amma bhagavan. this chance for you all to utter their names itself is grace given to you by the lord..
waiting for more comments from you all.. i wish my proevious message also to be published soon..
am making an open challenge with you all to prove my amma bhagavan are creators
This is for the first time i am talking about kalki to any body after i dropped out of his cult a few years back.This is not related to money lust that could very much be secondary.Iam opening up in the intrest of earnest spiritual seekers in this world.Kalki probably was an authentic spiritual seeker when he started his search for the ultimate.He has reached some chakra on the path of enlightenment,stuck there and got diverted to what he is now.For a seeker of some peace from this mad world and some materialistic gains which is whatthe mass wants he is the man like any other above average godman.But for one who wants nothing short of enlightment he is not the one.Kalki is still not a buddha he was probabably on the way reached a stage and is misguiding enlightenment seekers for reasons well known only to him.Firstly he forces the kundalini by contineous bajans and little sleep so that the new comers start seeing miracles and get attracted to his cult.Miracle in the form of appearance of hanuman in front of you or himself in front of you or amma in front of you,which are just physical projections of ones deep seated pictures in the mind.I PERSONALLY EXPEREINCED THE ABOvE MENTIONED THINGS.This forceful stimulation of the kundalini can also give you a feeling of tremendous strength,like even taking on the world physically or mentally.kALKI IS USING THIS DANGEROUS MATHOD TO ATTRACT PEOPLE,I SUFFERED HELL OR SOMETHING WORSE' WORDS ARE INSUFFICIENT TO EXPLAIN,FOR ABOUT ONE AND A HALF YEARS.Kundalini is supposed to start rising spontaneously we are supposesed to create an atmosphere for it.There are supposed to be 112 techniques of meditation,I HONESTLY REQUEST KALKI TO TEACH SOME SAFE METHODS TO MEDITATE,because the ultimate result of all is the same.But again it is under kalki i realised that every humanbeing can become divine by meditation an merge with the ultimate with or without a guru.Kalki never tells this to anybody not even to his closest dasas even if he knows it for reasons well known to him or he may be ignorant about it.Kalki is yet to attain buddhahood,earnestly hope he does some day and stop doing business out of his powers.Peace of mind materialistic gains miracles are peanuts along the path to the ultimate,.Comments about kalki should stop ,if u r after some peace, materialistic gains and some miracles kalki is as good as any other godman but if you are after nothing short of enlightment the last chakra search elsewhere.I hope this message dosnt go waste.
Diksha or nodiksha money or no money everyhumanbeing is a god he has to realise it and he becomes one with the ultimate and then he can claim he is the universe.For this one needs to meditate with any of the 112 techniques supposed to be taught by shiva to parvathi.If kalki has reached the ultimate then every human being who earnestly meditates can be a that kalki who has reached buddhahood but not all such kalkis will come into the limelight but just enjoy infinite bkiss incogno.
I do not know what people think when they comment about godmen. I see nobody even tries to understand the essentials of Hinduism. Hinduism is not a religion or organised structure for spirituality.
HINDUISM IS A WAY OF LIFE.
All people whom we consider gods or good people or avatars, etc, followed the good principle of a good human being in their own period of time. At least, we read writings to that effect.
Gandhiji led a very extravagant life early but shed this for the good of the nation, always having mass prayer to stregthen belief of each citizen of our nation to have freedom of life (not freedom from politics of being ruled by another country.) but it did end up freeing this country. With passage of time we all are likely to pray to Mahatma Gandhi as a god.
Coming back to Hiduism
Facts of Hinduism:
1. It is not a religion.
2. It is a way of life to have a good healthy happy living.
3. It is based on tradition, culture and enjoying festivities.
4. God is used to infuse goodness in all and promote better living.
5. Prayer and rituals are only for breaking the monotony of life which may bring about a change in the person.
6. Temples are places of cleanliness and only a channel to be at peace and learn to concentrate.
7. A Hindu can practice his life the way he wants and is classidfied according to it.
8. The highest pinnacle of attainment is becoming a Brahman (one who has the best form of life as a human being) which should not be confused with enlightenment.
9. One is enlightened if one has attained the true meaning of life and try to live it healthy and with goodness for all. We can all infer this from Buddha's teachings.
10. All definitions of morality, spirituality, religion, good, bad and judgement of others are manmade. Hinduism has nothing to do with this.
11. All true religious books in Hindu Literature give the principles of leading a good life.
12. Hinduism does not have concrete code of religion.
13. All religious texts were kept secret from the common man over time by particular group of people, godmen, etc. Does not stop a person from being called a good Hindu.
14. Traditions and Culture followed by Hindus are adaptations for good life within the environment of where the individual lives just like each coutry has a set of its own laws and regulations local it its place.
15. Hinduism has a rich almagamation of teachings written into texts over a very long period of time. Some of these can be chosen by anyone which have relevance to their particular situation to practice to become a good human being(in other words a good hindu).
16. All the above does mean that anyone can be classified as good Hindu, as long as he/she practices to become a good human being. A practitioner of Christian/Muslim/Buddhist/any other religion in the world can also be a Hindu if he/she is a good human being who practices good life practices.
ONE LAST COMMENT:
All these cult people and godmen who draw large following do have their advantages/disadvantages. Few benefit but some others are utterly devastated due to getting involved. Those who choose to believe are free to do so but should be aware if their actions have implications on those who live with them. Like a person donates large sum of money and leaves none for the family's immediate personal use. The family members suffer due this action.
This is similar to alcohol abuse. IF one takes a sip, it may or may not give enjoyment depending on the mindset of the person. If one drinks too much and that leads to unfavourable outcomes only.
Hope many would try to understand the real HINDUISM AND NOT WASTE TIME OVER CULT AND FOLLOWING THINGS which may or may not give results.
BE A BETTER HUMAN BEING AND THE WORLD WILL BE A BETTER PLACE.
The write of this post is a qualified systems engineer and has written this post applying systems enginieering to faith and religion to give some insight for people to make a choice when forming an opinion about India and its Culture and Tradition.
Cheers
A well wisher
I do not know what people think when they comment about godmen. I see nobody even tries to understand the essentials of Hinduism. Hinduism is not a religion or organised structure for spirituality.
HINDUISM IS A WAY OF LIFE.
All people whom we consider gods or good people or avatars, etc, followed the good principle of a good human being in their own period of time. At least, we read writings to that effect.
Gandhiji led a very extravagant life early but shed this for the good of the nation, always having mass prayer to stregthen belief of each citizen of our nation to have freedom of life (not freedom from politics of being ruled by another country.) but it did end up freeing this country. With passage of time we all are likely to pray to Mahatma Gandhi as a god.
Coming back to Hiduism
Facts of Hinduism:
1. It is not a religion.
2. It is a way of life to have a good healthy happy living.
3. It is based on tradition, culture and enjoying festivities.
4. God is used to infuse goodness in all and promote better living.
5. Prayer and rituals are only for breaking the monotony of life which may bring about a change in the person.
6. Temples are places of cleanliness and only a channel to be at peace and learn to concentrate.
7. A Hindu can practice his life the way he wants and is classidfied according to it.
8. The highest pinnacle of attainment is becoming a Brahman (one who has the best form of life as a human being) which should not be confused with enlightenment.
9. One is enlightened if one has attained the true meaning of life and try to live it healthy and with goodness for all. We can all infer this from Buddha's teachings.
10. All definitions of morality, spirituality, religion, good, bad and judgement of others are manmade. Hinduism has nothing to do with this.
11. All true religious books in Hindu Literature give the principles of leading a good life.
12. Hinduism does not have concrete code of religion.
13. All religious texts were kept secret from the common man over time by particular group of people, godmen, etc. Does not stop a person from being called a good Hindu.
14. Traditions and Culture followed by Hindus are adaptations for good life within the environment of where the individual lives just like each coutry has a set of its own laws and regulations local it its place.
15. Hinduism has a rich almagamation of teachings written into texts over a very long period of time. Some of these can be chosen by anyone which have relevance to their particular situation to practice to become a good human being(in other words a good hindu).
16. All the above does mean that anyone can be classified as good Hindu, as long as he/she practices to become a good human being. A practitioner of Christian/Muslim/Buddhist/any other religion in the world can also be a Hindu if he/she is a good human being who practices good life practices.
ONE LAST COMMENT:
All these cult people and godmen who draw large following do have their advantages/disadvantages. Few benefit but some others are utterly devastated due to getting involved. Those who choose to believe are free to do so but should be aware if their actions have implications on those who live with them. Like a person donates large sum of money and leaves none for the family's immediate personal use. The family members suffer due this action.
This is similar to alcohol abuse. IF one takes a sip, it may or may not give enjoyment depending on the mindset of the person. If one drinks too much and that leads to unfavourable outcomes only.
Hope many would try to understand the real HINDUISM AND NOT WASTE TIME OVER CULT AND FOLLOWING THINGS which may or may not give results.
BE A BETTER HUMAN BEING AND THE WORLD WILL BE A BETTER PLACE.
The write of this post is a qualified systems engineer and has written this post applying systems enginieering to faith and religion to give some insight for people to make a choice when forming an opinion about India and its Culture and Tradition.
Cheers
A well wisher
hi venkat madhav
i was very surprised seeing your comment.. "kundalini raised and so u could see pictures in your mind lively in front of you" . i want to ask you a question .. not only in bhagavat dharma but in all other dharmas.. i mean ayyappa,baba,, etc.. bhajanas are very common.. but how many of them are able to see pictures(god) in their mind lively infront of them? do you think it is possible to imagine GOD infront of you.. close your eyes and imagine him.. let me see if you will succeed in it..
you seeing ammabhagavan,hanuman infront of you is the grace of GOD given to you..you should thank the lord for it..but i dont understand how you turned negative.
HALF KNOWLEDGE IS ALWAYS DANGEROUS AND BAD AND WRONG NEWS TRAVEL VERY FAST.
ACCUSATION ON ONENESS MOVEMENT AND AMMA BHAGAVAN ARE BASELESS.
PERSONALLY I HAVE BEEN WITH THEM FOR MANY YEARS.
AMMA BHAGAVAN AND THE DASAS LIVE A VERY SIMPLE LIFE.
TO SAVE HIMSELF FROM TAXES HE COULD HAVE FORMED A ONENESS TRUST BUT INSTEAD HE FORMED A COMPANY NAMED GOLDEN SHELTERS PVT LTD. AND HE PAYS GOVT ALL THE TAXES ON TIME.
HE TOOK A LOAN TO BUILD Rs. 450 CRORE ONENESS TEMPLE AND HE HAS ALSO ADOPTED AROUND 200 VILLAGES, SUPPORTING ALL THE NEEDS OF THE PEOPLE OF THIS VILLAGES. AND YOU SAY HE IS MAKING MONEY FOR HIMSELF.
NOW PLEASE ANSWER MY QUESTIONS
MANY PEOPLE WORLD OVER HAS BENEFITED BY ONENESS TEACHINGS, DEEKSHA, COMMUNITY SERVICE PROGRAMS OF ONENESS UNIVERSITY AND BLESSINGS OF AMMA BHAGAVAN. NOW MY QUESTION IS……
HAVE ANYONE BEEN CHARGED ANY AMOUNT FOR ANY MIRACLE / EXPERIANCE OR FOR OTHER BENEFITS OF ONENESS MOVEMENT?
2NDLY
HOW CAN SUCH A GREAT MOVEMENT SURVIVE WITHOUT MONEY? AND IN YOUR OPINION HOW THIS MOVEMENT SHOULD RAISE MONEY FOR ALL THE GOOD WORK IT IS DOING?
AMMA BHAGAVAN ARE KNOWN TO RAISE CONCIOUSNESS OF A PERSON AND GIVE ENLIGHTENEMENT. ONENESS MOVEMENT MAKE YOU TO PAY FOR THEIR COURSES THROUGH BANK AND THEY MARKET THEIR PROGRAMS. SO WHATS WRONG IN THAT? HELP THAT PERSON GETS, KNOWLEDGE AND EXPERIANCE THAT YOU HAVE AND TRANSFORMATION THAT TAKE PLACE IN THIS PROGRAMS IS PRICELESS. I HAVE PERSONALLY SEEN AND EXPERIANCED MANY PROBLEMS GETTING HEALED. I HAVE SEEN RELATION, PROFESSIONAL, PHYSICAL AND OTHER PROBLEMS OF PEOPLE GETTING SOLVED. I HAVE SEEN PEOPLE OF ALL FAITHS AND NATIONALITY COMING TOGETHER TO EXPERIANCE ONENESS….. NOW PLEASE TELL ME, YOU ARE GETTING ALL THIS FOR FREE. HOW MUCH AMMA BHAGAVAN SHOULD HAVE CHARGED YOU FOR ALL THIS BENEFITS?
AMMA BHAGAVAN ARE KNOWN TO RAISE CONCIOUSNESS OF A PERSON AND GIVE ENLIGHTENEMENT.
They are giving nothing but a suggestion of such. The sincere devotee does all the rest themselves, unconsciously. Amma Bhagavan aren't any better or more effective as gurus than my dog.
Hi All,Last yr i have attended one of the oneness courses.It was my frd who forced me into it..Respecting his words,I attended the course.. After the 3 days session, i felt i have learnt something useful in life just leaving alone the spirituality... One more thing i liked in the course is that they never demanded us to pray only to AB.. the course is mainly on how to lead a successful life...So what i want to say is it is worth enough to attend the courses.. I am sure u will like it.. It is up to u whether to believe AB or not.. To me i believe only in Lord Venkateswara(our Kaliyuga Deva)
Please ponder :
What is this life all about ?
What are the things which are man made and what are the things we have naturally ,dwell on and enjoy 100% all that we have got naturally ...we would attain the state of bliss....there's nothing to achieve ....not even enlightenment....
Hi vardhini
i will try to be as honest as possible.Contineous bajans followed by undisturbed sleep for eight hours u will not see any projections.But if sleep is deprived badly and one is fed on only bajans one can see the projections.I wouldnot force you to try this it can sometimes be dangerous honestly very dangerous because i have suffered as i have mentioned.Before getting into kalki cult i was specialising in psychiatry and used to get patients who communicated with their ista devaths directly without any bajans also.you read the structure of the mind,id ,ego and superego and how there are connected.A few permutations and combinations of the components of these structures of mind which bajans without sleep do you can get out miracles, even your dreams can become alive in front of you.I discontinued psychiatry because honestly i didnot know if they should be seen as patients and treated or are they gifted spiritual people.And mind u vardhini i am not negative about kalki inspite of going to hell and coming out,i have forgiven him.I like him because he is doing a lot of social service,the world needs many more like him.Finally vardhini i never thought i would like to think or talk about kalki again but you have managed to get this out of me.If this discussion is going to benefit atleast one authentic soul any number of questions are welcome from you and i will answer you in all earnest.
hi venkat madhav
you very frankly spoke about your thoughts. thats very nice. i too participated in many bhajans without sleep but unfortunately i still couldnt see the god infront of me from 14 years( am their devotee from 14 yrs). i still continue to say u r gifted.not only you those who talk to their istha devatas are all gifted. they are not patients. and i still want to say u something else. please dont say u have undergone hell in kalki and have come out of it.no one will undergo hell here if u really understand and develop bond with bhagavan. may be sometimes bookish knowledge will not allow you to do somethings.please try to understand god is different and science is different. science can never understand god. and you also said u have forgiven bhagavan. boss please dont use these words.
hi vardhini first let me apoligise to you if you are hurt by what i had said.I still like kalki because he is comparitively doing better work than what politicians or businessmen are doing to this already troubled world.People going to him are living peacefully what more should anybody want in this world.May god send manymore such people to this earth it requires many more for kaliyug to revolutionise into rajyug or a better yug.If u had gone insane(not able to think,talk to people,remember what happened the previous day,filled with deep fear for no reason,no control on your body,no scope for meditation,cant read,write,do day to day activity etc)praying desperatly to kalki to help u but you continue to suffer,you hope that taking sanyas in nemam and living with kalki you may recover,but people over there realising that somethin wrong with you,turn you away without thinking of trying to help,you return home like a beggar with torn clothes and unkept hair,your parents get you admitted in a psuchiatric hosp,taking electric shocks to your brain for months to gether,your mother feeding you givingyou a bath,taking care of your toiletneeds,friends in kalki order deserting you knowing there was no hope of you recovering,youbelieving that there is no more hope you have to just end up chained to a cot rest of your life,when you pray to death to come to your aid so that you can escape this torture,but deathalso fails in spite of repeated attempted suicides,running away from home but returning back due to some unexplainable fear,kalki never enquires even if he knows what u are going through,and all the while you are aware all this is happening to u but you are helpless,it is all happening in the midst of your career,and finally the loving care of your parents and the electric shocks and strong pills you start to feel better and gradully you get back onyour feet after one and a half years as your self,the very peoplewho introduced you to kalki dont want tohave any contact with you even after you have recovered for the fear that the cult may get a bad name,imagine dasas living with that fear rather than free of fear,the very ones who forced you to surrunder to kalki when i was actually living a blissful spiritual life of my own,for the love for my kalki friends i changed path to theirs.Boss vardhini all this after istadevathas darshanam.You will have number of wonderful explanations for this vardhini saying i was going through the spiritul process kalki willing and he helped me get out of if it,like any closeminded spiritual aspirant would do.I dont thinkanybody would have forgiven him but boss i do,just for two reasons he is still a good social servicer,doing something good not being a politician or fraud,second reason my friends some of whom are dasas are living peacefully over there hopefully reaching buddhahood someday.For myself no more kalki and a teacher will come in search of me if not in this birth the next or after.A teacher is more desperate to get an authentic student than a student longing for a teacher in a spiritual world.As of now i follow my own path no gurus simple meditation peaceful life enough to get a human birth in the next...who knows what lies in store.Finally vardhini if at all god really appears to any body that will be the end of the cycle of births and deaths for that induvidual and will live in ultimate bliss till he dies,whether he THINKS HIS APPEARANCE is a boon or the grace of god or NOT THINKS,thinking is immaterisl in fact god never comes to a thinking mind he comes to the empty mind.
god never comes to a thinking mind he comes to the empty mind.
What a perfect aphorism to teach if you are a criminally-minded scammer like Kalki Bhagavan. No wonder he's been so fraudulently successful!
Hai Venu madhav,
I read about your letter and thanks for enlightening us and others on some real topics. Will keep writing.
tks
sks
Hi jodi
i am aspirant and definitely not a teacher to teach anybody.I apologise if my mail sounded like teaching."Realising god requires a state of no mind meaning living in present,as mind is a chain of thoughts of past or future"this is what buddha had said and i realised it was true and all meditation methods aims at bringing that state.which all of us conciously or unconciously are doing the same.Just consider this to analyse just the way i did.
When you are watching a cricket match or soccer or playing chess or having a drink or watching a movie or involved in physical intimacy with opp sex-which almost every living thin is into- live in the present though temporarily.All the addicts are only trying to grasp that small period of no mind-past or future- what ever the addiction.millions of soccer fans in the stadium what are they actually doing,trying to get a high in being in that present state,every one of us weather we want it or not we are all attracted towards that state which meditation provides for lasting periods."A game of football takes you closer to god than reading the gita for hours"swami vivekananda had said" and if you analyse when you are physically exerting while playing you are being in the present state but while reading gita mind comes into play and starts to take you for a ride.Jodi you said something like criminal minded-watch them closly they are also people wanting the same as whatevery soul longs for that state of present but the means they use are harmful as far as the society rules are concerned they will be caught and punished as per rules including death depending on the intensity of the crime,being a part of this society i am for it but thats only the body, the soul continues to go behind the ultimate, might find the right way in some birth.Jodi i am not teaching you anything i am far far away from it ,as an average human being i am analysing what i realised.I am surprised anybody who reads are discusses spiritually can use such words like criminal-you are basically a good man jody otherwise you woulnot have bothered to see this blog or commemt about anything related to spirituality.
I have no grudge on any one around. My only question here is simple: If you wish to see God in men, see it in everyone, why specifically a certain selected members?
I do understand he is doing good to people. Simply put, a modern day Robin Hood, he is from all the above comments. But still the question lingers on, why a specific person, and that too in the name of Kalki, an avtar yet to be born.
I write almanacs, and studied vedas all my life. More than 50+ years of vedic education, and I am still not satisfied with this concept of seeing God in exactly one man. What makes them superior, when God created us all the same?
All my life I spent not more than INR 10, going to a nearby temple per trip. And all this money only for traveling by bus. I found peace, solace and felt God.
Enlightenment is not specific to some geographic location, nor does it come from another man, but it comes from within. 4 vedas and 18 puranas never mentioned a person, or a location where or from whom enlightenment comes. Then why this one man, why this one university alone?
Isn't it hilarious to see God in just one man, who will perish with time? Doesn't that sound stupid enough to see God in one man, when all vedas only suggest that you submit to the supreme God, then why sumit to just one man. After all he is a man.
It is very unfortunate that AB who have transformed millions of people are facing such comments. Of course, every one has the right of speach.But, my request to all those who comment is just to meet BHAGAVAN once and you will find the change in you. HE never said HE is GOD. HE even today says that HE is an AVATAR. Any one can visit the onenessforall.com and listen to HIA videos.
I duno how these 2 criminals, kalki and his wife are still free. Is there person from the judiciary who is watching this blog??
I feel sad for those who are still associated with this cult & those who are joining them newly. Now they have started approaching page3guys as well; Reaching bollywood & filmstars is offcourse a medium for earning bounty. I regret my experience where I was associated blindly for 5 long years from 1995 to 2000 where I saw all the tragic events in my life. (Main reason being the monks & followers told that you need not worship anyother God as he is the sachidananda & the 10th Incarnation of Vishnu; we (our family acted foolish by ignoring our ancestral Gods) (Ancestral Diety etc)). First instance was my father expired, one of my sister became a schizophrenic & another sister of mine got married & separated during this time & my mother lost her vision (right eye) due to a glaucoma but nothing could be done & lastly I also did not have a good job in life where I was longing for the same alongwith my family wellbeing and that was the main reason for coming to this cult; I regret for meeting the people who introduced me to this cult . I with full frustration threw all this photos & anything associated with him on 31st December 2001. I really started see a positive side on my life now. I am really happy to state that I am out of it now & self employed currently owning a company. I request people to not blindly go by words or speech. All the so called “experience” is a bogus. I really really regret those 5 years which I have lost if the same is back I think I can achieve much move in my life.
Recently i was attending a conference and was on my way towards one of the halls where i had to present a research paper,on the way i had to pass another hall from where i heard a female speaker speaking when suddenly words like mind and soul caught my ears i automatically decided to abondon my presentation and attend to this talk about mind and soul. It turned out be somebody from the art of living,organised for the family members of the delegates across the country.She appeared to be speaking the truth like we should live in the present and what we should we do-sadhana or technique- to live in the present,she demonstrated breathing technique and asked everybody else in the hall to do the same.What i am trying to say here is nobody is offering any new teaching it has already been taught by many great buddhas centuries back,but atleast these organisations give us a platform to start a technique practise it persistently and see the results,definitely it gives anybody peace of mind clarity of thought.One cannot do it consistently all by oneself atleast in the begining so a group work -satsang- is required..So it is not that only only one guru can lead us,as i said before this world requires many such ravishankars, kalkis ,saibabas etc.But to go beyond just peace of mind and happiness one needs more.But none of these speak about one topic which bothers every humanbeingwhich the deciples are scared to ask and the gurus are scared to talk is about that thing from which ravishankar is born kalki is born or saibaba is born or for that matter kalki's son is born ie sex.They are existing among us today because of sex between their parents,even they would not deny this.But they know that if they talk about it they will be kicked out of their desciples homes within minutes like osho and being enlightened people they cannot say let us not speak about it nor can they say they dont know about it,they are bound to know about it.At least osho was bold,ready to be rejected but not ready to compromise with truth.THE GREATEST IRONY IN THE WORLD IS MILLIONS OF DESIPLES OF VARIOUS GURUS WOULD ABONDON THEIR GURUS IF THEIR GURUS SPEAK THE TRUTHS ABOUT SEX,AND EVERY PRESENT DAY GURU IS SCARED OF LOSING THE NUMBER LIKE POLITICIANS.THIS PHENOMENON SHOULD ACTUALLYBE THE EIGHTH WONDER OF THE WORLD.IN SUCH A SITUATION THE ONLY RELATION THAT SURVIVES IS BETWEEN THE NONCOMPROMISING,BRAVEST OF THE BRAVE GURUS AND AUTHENTICALLY BRAVE AND OPEN MINDED DESIPLES AND THAT GROUP IS A VERY SMALL ONE IN NUMBERS.No wonder sri krishna in the GITA has said only one in a million reach me.Lastly,when swami vivekananda was asked in america why do you have thousands of gods in india, HE said it was not enough,meaning he wanted every human being to reach that state of godliness.I wish to thank the blog owner for giving us all an opportunity to share discuss criticise express our views about spirituality though he is sensoring a few items.
hi dears!
i read all the posts but i have got the several changes in my life after visit kalki bhagavan temple in nemam i don't know there all r from bhagavan or any other pls suggest but cost wise too much 4 every thing in nemem
this is the same guy so call kalki bhagwan; u will definitely feel nice & good for few months & years & finally u will feel that you are on the same boat just longing to get up. Rather come out of these & have a positive attitude in life with good meditation & prayers will be more than enough than leaving everything you had in life & craving for so called new things. I know how our family suffered with blindly accepting this cult for 5 long years & wasting our previous time & facing lot of tragic events in life. You will end up only spending lot of money & time; ofcourse there is some change initially due to the presence of you in a Satsang; you can rather avail that from any good satsangas like Art of Living etc., where there do not say "I AM GOD".
My case is also similar. our family wasted lot of money/energy/time in this cult.Initially we felt some positive change. It made us involve completely in this cult.But later we lost almost everything including money/peace/valuable time/ health/life etc. we lagged far behing our relatives/ friends. Then we left the cult and started on our own. But one thing sure,with my personal experience, Kalki has some spiritual powers, otherwise so many people wont follow him. I think he is misusing this spiritual energy for earning money/power/status etc.He may himself be trapped by MAYA instead of releasing others from MAYA !
The people who are speaking towards are sheeps, they cant even justify Mr. Bhagwan. They even cant open their eyes wide and see that if you dont have 50,000 bucks u cant even see him from close view. I f u give 100,000 bucks then he will speak to you. Great post....
Hi,
This guy so called kalki is a fraud. I know he gave one of disciple lakhs i guess 3 lakhs to help him produce a movie. He did make a movie and that movie is a flop one. I wonder why so called God not helping the poors instead just giving the donated devotees money to someone like this guy to produce a movie????
MY DEAR FRIENDS
FORGET ABOUT ANY GODS
AND REALISE THAT YOU ARE GOD
YOU ARE NOT UR NAME
YOU ARE NOT UR BODY
YOU ARE NOT UR CHILHOOD,
YOU ARE NOT YOUR TEENAGE
YOU ARE NOT UR CHARECTER
ALL THESE THINGS ARE NOT BELONGS TO U
YOUR BODY IS JUST A PEICE OF EARTH
u are really the part of the great god ...yes you are god....try to find your real charecter ...IT IS LOVE...IT IS SILENCE....
Mr. Annonymous!
now u r talking like a Kalki Bhagavan.
It is the fact that westerners accepting that they are fools who cannot find peace themselves and come to another cornor of the world to find it with someone by offering money. Expressing their fault on others like innocent indians. What do indians do if you are fool. Dont think indians are illiterate. The resourses india have is the world can be feeded forever. The holy saints are there whom you could not find with your noble qualities of character. It is your fault. Dont blame indians. You stupid....idiot... ultimately u accepted you are fool.
SPIT on ammabhagavan and his family for taking money from innocents posing as God and Holy.
SPIT on those who are associated with this group even after they know that they are cheating poor people.
SPIT on the Scoundrels University called Oneness University.
Almighty God Bless all those Hard Working people who make their daily bread sweating out their Blood in honesty.
The Rag to Riches story! THE REAL SLUM DOG MILLIONARE !
Oneness University! Kalki Bhagavan AmmaBhagavan
Once not very long ago in a small village in south india one economically poor man working as a clerk called vijayakumar married a greedy women called padmini from the village.
They were newly married like many human beings very poor but they both had sex a lot of times as there was not much entertainment in those days in villages in India. In those days televisions and computers were not available in India. Even some villages did not have electricity. So the only entertainment for poor villagers was a disturbance free long dark nights with a full sex. In the process due to sex between Vijayakumar and Padmini , Padmini got pregnant like any other human being. She gave birth to a male child. This boy was named Krishna. Later due to a lot of population in India the Congress Government started educating villagers about contraceptives. And also stared distributing contraceptives in villages.
Realising that their family has expanded padmini wanted her husband to make more money and she pestered her husband vijayakumar everyday.
Well vijayakumar was not a very skilled to start an industry. He was worried with his life and his economic condition as he was not even able to afford to shave his beard. He thought of taking Sanyas and wore a red scarf and yellow robe. Some villagers gave him some coins as they usually do in India for the people those who beg in the name of God.
There clicked the idea and vijayakumar started to spread false info to the illiterate villagers that he has powers and that he is God. Then vijayakumar sat with his close family members and planned slowly and built this money making fraud scheme in the name of GOD. He named himself as KalkiBhagavan and fooled for some time. Seeing that only vijayakumar is getting all the attention his wife padmini got angry and furious and stared to fight with her husband KalkiBhagavan. So Kalki Bhagavan spent sleepless nights and after lot of thought decided to make his wife also as Goddess. Then some Dasas called his wife as Amma as usually they call in India and they both sat together to give darshan to foolish people so they became Amma Bhagavan instead of Kalki Bhagavan.
He and his family fooled so many people and ruined many families in the process. Now the Devils son Krishna Gee is trying to expand this evil empire in various disguises and forms and they are still figuring out various means and ways to protect their ill-gotten wealth - the result is many mansions , many lands , many companies and many illegal ways !!!
This is the story of a slum dog becoming a millionare ! Any fool wants to watch this show go a head and shell out your hard earned money as much as you can and devote your entire life for this slum dog!
They will welcome you with smiling faces and folded hands and say NAMASTE GEEEEE !!!!! In return you will not even get dog poop!
It is not karma it is not fate for all those guiltless people who believed and gave their money to the fraud called Kalki Bhagavan alias Amma Bhagavan and his entire family.
This is a classical well planned case of a Man’s sin against his won people. Vijayakumar alias Kalki Bhagavan projected himself as God allowed poor people of India to fall at his feet and took their money directly and indirectly through his agents, family members , followers and Dasas.
Vijayakumar and his assocociates again and again lied and created a Cult in which kalki vijayakumar alias amma bhagavan and their son Krishna ji and his close family are the sole beneficiary of this cult.
To make this cult even bigger they built a huge building and named it as oneness temple / oneness university.. To impress westerners / foreigners and also to amaze poor Indians. Small shop small business / Big shop big business!
The truth is this money was taken and is being taken by false promises , false hopes and in the name of the almighty God and that is a great SIN to commit on this earth.
This clearly shows that Vijayakumar Kalki Bhagavan alias Amma Bhagavan is SATAN.
Even as per Hindusium it takes many rebirths to clear the sin committed and will take many many rebirths to repay that was taken from the innocents.
This heartless sinner and his family will go down in history as the biggest fraud of the century committed in the name of God and Enlightment!
it is not good with your comments.our very lives are examples of amma bhagavan's grace.our lives filled with miseries were turned into happy lives even with happening or non-happening of expected events.that is what a human needs.our lives has changed only because of amma bhagavan.we did not believe just as blind beliefs but very experience.one cannot make against comments who are really adverse,only a conflict person make comments.
What is WRONG is WRONG no matter what ever it is He ( Vijayakumar Kalki Bhagavan alias Amma Bhagavan ) IS A SINNER IN GODS BOOK!
Unknowingly some one can can a mistake and God has excuse and he forgives them but --- Those who follow him even after they know Amma Bhagavan is a fraud are committing the worst sin on this earth.
It is better to die in Gods name than to follow this SATAN here and then go to hell.
IN THE NAME OF ALMIGHTY GOD - THE ONE AND ONLY WHO CREATED THIS HEAVEN AND EARTH WHO IS THE BEGINNING AND THE END – AND WHO JUDGES EVERYBODY FOR THE SINS COMMITTED –
Vijayakumar Kalki Bhagavan alias Amma Bhagavan is a Sinner to the Core!
History has shown that Satan ( Amma Bhagavan )has many masks. He sugar coats and his bait is very tempting and he has many ways to deceive like Amma Bhagavan and their Oneness University.
Swim against the tide, in the Direction shown by God, like a live fish does. Don't be swept away by the waves of false propaganda, like the plight of a dead fish.
Defend God.
He will surely defend and protect you always. Examples are aplenty in the History.
I know that money can buy prostitutes and pleasures.
But this is the first time I’m hearing that money can buy God and Enlightment!
If money can buy God then what about the Billions of poor people on this earth?
May be they do not deserve to see God. May be being poor is their bad karma!
If that is the case then even the drug lords can pay money to Oneness University and see God and Goddess and get enlightment.
So there is nothing called Sin. I’m so confused! I don’t understand this God business !
i still dont know y these people take their valuable time to write these type of worse coments... simply if a person dont like one way just leave it a side and do their own things.... Sri kalki baghavan has been in millions of devotees heart now... so if some one dosnt like oneness,they simply do their own busines rather than wasting their energy...
First I would like to highly appreciate and thank to all those who wrote in this blog taking their valuable time and their experiences.
It is painful to know that this person called Amma Bhagavan has cheated millions by posing as God and his wife as Goddess. Phoney characters like these use and exploit gullible and illiterate poor people in the beginnings. Then they try to get famous figures to show off and showing them they try to pull in more crowds. It is a vicious circle.
But there are a lot of honest people in this world who are concerned for the poor and fellow humans. It is because of these kinds of people things still move in the right direction. The children of tomorrow should not fall prey to such scam artists.
Thanks to all those who wrote this in blog. You have really saved my time and money.
I heard some of Kalki Bhagavans devotees say that Kalki Bhagavan has severe pain in his ass due to Piles.
They say that he is being treated at oneness university for his piles.
Sorry to know that Amma Bhagavan has piles. Oh that was the reason Amma Bhagavan usually closes his eyes due to pain in the Ass while sitting. Sitting for long hours puts pressure in the anal area which aggravates his piles condition. Piles can be cured if it is not severe. Only severe piles cases needs operation.
This from a previous posting is so true, money being used for companies and huge houses via their son.
He and his family fooled so many people and ruined many families in the process. Now the Devils son Krishna Gee is trying to expand this evil empire in various disguises and forms and they are still figuring out various means and ways to protect their ill-gotten wealth - the result is many mansions , many lands , many companies and many illegal ways !!!
Many know that Bhagavan is Diabetic from a long time and he is controlling it with food habits and medicine by his doctors.So now he has PILES also. How do the women Dasas tolerate his condition...,
Speak good, do good. Chant Hare Krishna and be happy!
The Dasas who are with Amma Bhagavan are unpaid labourers. They dont get a monthly salary. In fact I would say they are a kind of slaves who just labour for food in this modern days believing that they are with God and Goddess. Even Amma Bhagavan and their son krishna laugh at them in private seeing all the fools around them.
The thing is you believe these bastards you are fooled for a life time.
BHAGAVAN SAID " WHATEVER YOU THINK ME TO BE, THAT I AM "....
Everybody now realises and they think he is a stinking excreta which needs to be disposed off as soon as possible. Because the stink is unbearable and dangerously infectious to fellow humans.
It is really funny to know that a Man calling himself as Kalki Avatar is having a piles condition.
Let him learn to clean his stinking ass first so that his disease is cured then he can claim all sort of things.
Hey I think Amma Bhagavan need to do ASS YOGA which will help him in his PILES...
Hi!
Is this site meant to spread hatred against Amma Bhagavan? u people r not giving proof or example of how he is a fraud. instead u ppl r just using abusive language and showing your dislike and hatred against AmmaBhagavan. . . !
Dont just make statements saying he is so and so. i expect u ppl to talk sme sense. His devotees r giving clear example of how AmmaBhagavan help them and transformed their life but those who dont trust him r not giving any example of how they r fraud. they r only making accusations.
"Know ye not that the unrighteous shall not inherit the kingdom of God? Be not deceived by : neither Amma Bhagavan or oneness university , fornicators, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor effeminate, nor abusers of themselves with mankind, nor thieves, nor covetous, nor drunkards, nor revilers, nor extortioners, shall inherit the kingdom of God."
A thief (Amma Bhagavan ) is a thief whether he steals something small or something large. And all thieves are counted as unrighteous and, if they don't repent, will be punished for their sin and will not inherit the kingdom of God -- they will go to hell and also those who follow them.
Now They want Proof !
Giving proof is the job and duty of Amma Bhagavan of oneness university. We are the millions who wasted our money and our lives beliving this Bastard as Kalki Avatar ( The GOD ) as he initially projected himself. Who later changed his name as Amma Bhagavan and also projects along with his wife as the saviour and makes people fall at their feet. It is the duty of this Bastard to show that he is God and the saviour not us.
i wonder why this sort of discussion is going on so far?! why these foolish mortals are bothered to believe criminals like ammabhagavan..!what the govt is doing? is there anybody from judiciary to do something about this fraud? we must pity these foolish believers.i wonder why human brain is becoming very weak day by day.the day is not far away to expose these dirty "avatars" of vijaykumar &co.
where there is money, how can there be spirituality, for benfit of many try Vipassana course conducted by S N Goenka, which highly enhances the spiritual growth and remove's the stess and strain of modern life.
I would like to know if the ammabhagavan's piles disease has been cured ? If so then what kind of medication was used to cure the piles? This will help all the ammabhagavan devotees who have piles and are desperetely in need of a cure.
would ammabhagvan reveal some secret please.
Kalki is a fraud. Not a god. He attracts inocent women.. I have my own experiance...
My person message to the so called Kalki-----I he continues to do the same he will be killed by one person...........
I u wna to make the worls a better place then make people realise the importence of hard/smart work and not to depend on god.
All ladies forget there responsibilities and are attraced by this kalki....
ur teaching are wrong kalki...u as well as ur entire cult will suffer if u continue doing so.....
All here who talks rubbish about My Amma N Bhagvan is a Real Filered FOOLS...wat u ppl know abt them.......they live in the hearts of millions n millons of people.....their miracles in our life are really,really incredible...only if u go 2 Oneness university n attend any programmes u wil know who they are,wat r their visions n missions.......I myself had hundreds of miracles because of them.....to ur knowledge i was also someone who talked rubbish about them earlier but when i came 2 know who they r i was astonished......so whomever talks bad about baghavan n amma...JUST GO TO HELL....
Many very well know about the Fraud Amma and her Bhagavan. And also the son who was born out of their carnal sex life. Those who work for them and also those who are very close to them know about their carnal desires and their unethical ways.
WHAT CAN A BORN ROBBER BEGGER GIVE TO THE PEOPLE ?
THE ILLUSION VACUUM CALLED DEEKSHA !
I have gone through each and every comment posted herein above. My dear Sirs, before commenting on any person - whether he is a fraud or a god, look into your innerself. For you,for becoming a grown up man it took years. You have not grown up at once. To believe a man, it takes time but to comment about a man whether he is a incornation of god or not it takes few seconds/minutes. Have we witnessed the Golden Temple, Oneness University (without seeing Sri Amma and Bhagavan, have we understood the realities happening there. It is not good on our part to comment about any one (even now if I comment you all (those who have negative thinking about Sri Amma and Sri Bhagavan) that you are not a human being but a devil in the form of human, you will not agree. Even Sri Krishna has taken gifts from his followers - may not be inform of money. These foreigners first they will become devotees and then make comments about the same person. No one in India has asked them to become devotees.
Jesus Christ, Goutam Buddha, Prophet Mohemmad had never said that they are gods. But it is our belief, our thinking made us to believe them as Gods. Every one of us possess some spiritual powers inside us which some people like Sai Baba, Kalki bring out by Sadhana. You can do Sadhana everyday and you can also attain spiritual powers. If Jesus is God, why he got crucified ? why he could not escape ?
As far as draughts in the Country, getting sights to blind people or meeting natural calamities like floods etc.these are all relating to Karma. If you do your karma perfectly (as said by Sri Krishna in GEETHA)then you will see everything positive. Why Dwapara or Thretayuga are termed as Golden age because of the Karma & Dharma made by them in those Yugas. Truth, piousness are buzz words at that time and men used to help each others without seeking anything in turn.
My only and ernest request to you all is you believe what you see with your own eye but don't believe what you hear from others (may he be a devotee of other god and if you blame his God, he will get flared up against you also) Like that, Sri Kalki is preaching for the benefit of the Society. He never said you loot the other person and give to me. It is upto you to receive the words in a positive or negative way.
For all human problems in life, only we are respondible.
Trying to find easy ways to pray the so called GODS ( who says they would solve any problem ), make people with problems prosper the so called GODS and make the So called GODS to Achieve anything in the easiest way at the quickest possible time.
So, educate your neighbourhood to solve their problems on their own. Or atleast, everyone realise that problems are for prosperity and for more knowledge.
So, help each other, help ourseves and never help the so called GODS to prosper by brain washing the poor or the rich. Poor brings the crowd and the Rich pour money for the so called misdeed and spoil the civilisation.
Let us think better and never give room to the so called GODS at least from now onwards.
Government also has a role to investigate and stop such so called GODS (miscreants in the society).
There is scope for brain washing young boys and girls and misuse them for ever by threatening their lives. IT IS HIGH TIME GOVERNMENTS HAVE A CHECK ON THIS AND PUT A HALT TO THESE " the so called MISCREANTS ".
Where is GOD ?
When SUN is a STAR and there are millions of STARS AND MANY GALAXIES exist ..... !
Please visit the
"internet web sites like NASA” and try to understand and if possible contribute for improving the science.
So, why waste tiem in trying find " EGG IS FROM THE CHICKEN OR CHICKEN IS FROM THE EGG "
There are many things unknown and at the same time SCIENCE has advanced to know many things across the world.
So, let us share our success and failures to march towards a better civilisation !
- Renganath, Chennai, Tamilnadu
Once Bhagavan, Amma or Krishna is through with you, you are tossed out like a piece of garbage. Do you ever wonder what happened to a Dasas or Oneness coordinators?
They spread horrible rumors about Rani (N. America Oneness) which was untrue. If you do not do what they say they ruin you.
Remember Madu, they cut him out of their life and never talked to him again even though he gave so many years of his life.
So many others!!!
This is not very “Oneness”. Do these people even know what that is?
witout xperiencing anyone dnt ever comment on any one...........we kalki devotee r not fools .........u people r fools tat u cannot see the god who is present on this earth in form of human....one thing i ll like to tel u friends tat i give u a dish and tel u to taste it,but before tasting it i tel it is not nice and other is telling it is nice......but wen u taste the dish then oly u ll know the taste of the dish.so how is bagavan also........wen u experience him only u can know about him........he has come to free human being from sufferings.......help bagavan to fulfill his vision......dnt simply comment on wat others say.u xperience him fully and then comment on sri bagavan.
u all blaming tat y bagavan is asking money.........the giver is he oly and taker is he oly and there is no point of money lust.....
dr preeth your example is well accepeted thank u and wish u all the best in your path,wholeheartedly.Your trust in them is appreciated and your boldness in defending those who have showed you a purpose in life in an otherwise purposeless life is also well appreciated.Please conside my one wish ther was one person by name venkat madhav who has posted on this blog his or herstory, if it true ther may be many more who have gone throuth this.Please pray by yourself or with kalki that nobody should go through such things in future,guide them properly.You kalki samadarshini and radhika should feel morally responsible for such incidents.Please dont say nothing happened and everything is false.Take up the cause boldly as nobody is bolder than spiritual aspirants BE IT KALKI DEVOTEES OR ANY OTHER.SPRITUALITY IS NOT FOR THE NAMBY PAMBY.You need not even reassure anybody just do it.
lol....
Biggest business in this world has always been religion.
Kalki...er...excuse me, he calls himself, "Bhagavan" (means god in Hindi)... is a very good marketer!!! Wow, even god, as far as I know hasn't called himself that...hmmm...what happenned to humility???
Keep pulling the wool over everyone's eyes for the sheep are asking for it.
Most major religious texts say the same thing: We do not need to access the divine thru icons and other humans.... god is already around you to be accessed....
Well... Mr. Kalki, Karma is definetly going to play you out yet ;)Good luck with that one!
boss iam educated person so i can read in the internet about this fucking kalki but some of un educated people how to know.so u should publish this news in every news paper and tv channels with particalar proofs,as like photos are videos like that i can help u in this matter.because he cheated lot of people for money.
The 3 senior guides (Anandagiriji, Samadarshiniji and Vimalakeerthiji) & a group of close to 25 guides are leaving the Oneness Movement. Oneness is spreading rumors that they violated disciplinary codes and tarnishing the image of he movement.
Hai friends...
In my thought, you are surrounded by soceity...
Thats y u are think and talk like this.. He is a god for many poors..
Lot of poor peoples get benefits by the help of sri amma bagavan speech and deekshas,..
Long long ago jesus came here and Said " I am a god's servent to make people wealthy healthy" What the people did Put him on 'Siluvai'..
By the same Nabigal Naayagan Came Like Jesus.. That community People Throw stone and push him mathina to mecca.. By the same Appar(Thirunaavukarasar) came, people did tie a rope with stone and put him into the sea..
Like that you people dnt hve that much of knowledge to realise ammabagavan.. Thts ur problem..
Anyway god bless you..
Evey people thought that after dead only we became god.. its wrong thought plz try to change it..!
Tanq
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Eash Trichy..
We all know from this comment that this bloody guy is a fraud.The news that some senior preachers eloped proves this comment.His thrist for money may never end
Waiting for an honest answer from u preeth
FAMILY OWNED PRIVATE BUSINESS !
INVESTMENT - FRAUD , ILLUSION , CHEATING IN THE NAME OF RELIGION ( projecting a VIRTUALLY POWER LESS HUMAN AS KALKI AVATAR (GOD) FALSE ADVERTISTMENT , FALSE HOPES , LIES, VACUUM CALLED ENERGY TRANSFER !
NAMED ONENESS TO ATTRACT PEOPLE FROM DIFFERENT RELIGIONS. MORE THE PEOPLE MORE THE MONEY !
Sorry for all those who believe in this ammabhagavan alias kalki bhagavan and their oneness.
Many lives has been manipulated and wasted following this crook and his family. This crook named him Bhagavan who doesn’t deserve the name Bhagavan (God) is a total fraud. His criminal mined son Krishna’s only intention and his hidden agenda is to legalise / transfer the money cheated by various promises to innocent people who believed in their false propaganda and advertisement.
The criminal minded son Krishna has transferred a lot of money out of this country by various means through his private business , film production , music business, software business setups etc…, He has purchased a many mansions in USA ,Singapore and several other places in fact he has many bungalows in Chennai itself. His main assistant named Chander knows a lot about this fraud.
Ammabhagavan’s sister and brothers are involved and own many realestate purchased from the money diverted by this fraud movement. His brother Ramesh Ji purchases and handles money in realestate deals . Hundreds of acres of land has been purchased by this fraud movement under various names and family owned trust. The realestate purchases by this fraud bhagavan and his criminal mined son Krishna and his sister and brothers run over 1000 acres ( please note over one thousand acres of realestate ). Many of the land dealings are done by his brother Ramesh who doesn’t reveal his identity during the purchases. Many loopholes in the Indian Government Law are used to their benefit in this process. Revenue dept authorites are heavily bribed from the money received from innocent people who are cheated and lower taxes are paid which leads to loses to Indian Government in millions .
They have purchased a lot of diamonds and gold jewellery to satisfy their ego and greed for wealth. The Jewellery has been stored in many of their relative’s houses and bank lockers of amma bhagavan’s and their relatives in different names.
Krishna usually bribes corrupt officials of the income tax department so that they do not raid their premises for ill-gotten wealth.
Kalki Ammabhagavan and his criminal mined son Krishna think that by shelling out a small share of what they cheated millions of innocents by building a concrete building called oneness temple they can cheat the whole world under the name oneness and keep their fraud movement going on for their personal benefit.
It is because of criminal mined people like them many poor in India and around the world suffer.
Millions are deprived of their hopes and their money by this fraud movement and innocient lives of followers are Sacrificed in the process for one MAN's and his Son's unending GREED and LUST ! !
GOD WILL NEVER FORGIVE AND THEIR IS NO ESCAPE FOR THEIR BLASPHEMY COMMITED ! ! !
All the followers and Acharyas of amma bhagavan take medicines prescribed by doctors for curing their illeness and health problems there is no magic.
They are fed like dogs so that they can guard and keep their secrets so amma bhagavan and their family can live like kings.
Fools will sacrifice their lives for food and little comforts.
SPIT ON THIS BASTARD WHO CHEATS IN THE NAME OF GOD !
I would not be ashamed to admit that i had found solace at mind and at soul but once upon a time. The Courses were well organized and for the benefit of fellow humans beings irrespective of their, culture, religion, race , colour etc.
But Since when the movement acquired more of commercial aspects into their organization, things have chaged a lot. Now there is no respect for the person and no care towards him but they only care if ur wallet is full and if u could offer more and more money. They have ready remedies and explanations for everything. The worst thing i had noticed was they were even announcing the prices for things like tonsuring ur head and " Pay and Piss" policy . u had to pay and then use toilets. Name the worst thing that comes to your mind to get things commercial. I bet u will find worser than that in the ashrams. I had seens sevaks mistreating devotee who came from long distances. I was a sevak myself and I despise and protest such activities.
Now in the wake of new events that had surfaces recently, Acharyas and Bhagavans son Krishna had ditched amma bhagvan. U can look for the videos on youtube. (" Bhagvan 14 Nov 2009" or " Video Conference 14 Nov 2009") u will find bhagavan confirms that. He says I am just like a beggar now and has got no control over things . They had the money and everything. He also says his son is neither a dasa(monk) or an Acharya(trainer of monks) or has nothing to do with oneness. they had broken up. Now that they cannot use the names conferred on them nor can they use the tag ONENESS associated with their activities. They were sent abroad on a purpose and now that they doesn't want to come back. All devotees just search the web before throwing comments on this.
Bhagwan claims to have advised his son as well as acharyas to make the courses in india free or some nominal price. But they had differed with this idea.
He also claims to have said that he told that oneness should be dissolved by 2012 or at most 2014. they would not be holding any property on their name. So his son and others didn't like that idea.
He claims to have no knowledge how devotees were looted by their hard earnings and all.
If it were the case i go on a record to tell i had donated to Bhagvan himself lakhs of rupees given to his hand.
Initially they said money is required only till a point i.e. once the mukti mandap is constructed its all over and no money would be needed further to Oneness. But once the mukti mandap is over. U could hardly see a big shed over there and their private luxurious builds and mediocre dormatories for people who donated for all that. Its not over Yet :-)
Now 2012 concept has come. I don't think i need to throw light on this topic. Before the world end's we need to construct Golden City a Magnificent building. And ofcourse luxorious other buildings that surround them and all. its also done. When at the time of Golden City opening. There was a stampede and lot of people were dead infront of my eyes. Nobody was bothered about that and the next time i had been to another retreat free of cost on a friends pass who donated huge amounts. Bhagwan was explaining the things that happened on that day at Golden City's opening. I felt like he was covering the stampede stuff.
Golden City is over and then what....
Now Vaikunt Project has come up. He himself said that " U will have nice colonies built and amma and bhagwan stays with u and we all can walk together and have nice time. and after delivering a baby u can leave with oneness they will be treated differently since their birht and will be raised in according to the way u want. You just have to pay for it. "
I am fed up with oneness and also writing this elaborate shit stuff.
before I conclude . just take a look at this website.
http://www.risingsolutions.com/management.aspx
know what, bhagvan's son and his wife owns every damn thing in that. All that with our hard earned money.
It is not just the company mentioned above...it is also many more. Where is the son, Krishna getting all the money from to start these companies? We can only guess!1!....Oneness.
http://www.risingsolutions.com/management.aspx
http://www.kosmicfilm.com.sg/index.html
http://kosmicamusic.com/wp/
http://www.kosmicmusic.com/
IMPORTANT NOTE ---
To all those who believe in Amma Bhagavan / Kalki Bhagavan and their Son Krishna of Oneness !
Thanks to all people around the world who gave money by blindly believing that enlightment can be purchased!
Thanks for all those who believed followed and wasted their prime years in their life doing SEVA.
Thanks for the fools who believed that this husband wife and son as GOD and Goddess and fell at their feet for grace.
Your LOSS is their GAIN ! ! !
Thanks for making them live a life like the Kings.
LIST OF THEIR GAIN !
List of Private Properties and Possesions purchased with your hard earned money !
1.Unlimited amounts of Hard Cash to spend called Black Money and also that converted as white money.
2.Airconditioned Bungalows in Many Indian cities.
3.Many luxury high value cars.
4.Huge quantity of Very expensive Diamonds.
5.Huge quantity of Gold Jewellery.
6.Lot of paid servants for personal comforts.
7.Lot of unpaid servants called Dasas.
8.Over 2000 acres of Land in india alone in that about 1000 acres alone located between the border of Tamilnadu and Kerala.
9.Huge Quantity of expensive designer wear clothes purchased around the world.
10.Huge quantity of expensive imported furniture.
11.Expensive Mansions in LA and Singapore and other contries also
12.Real-estate in the names of close relatives who are confidential and also hold huge amounts of jewellery and money swindeled.
13.Expensive electronics for personal entertainment.
And the list goes on and on …………..,
One Son many business with your money!
List of Firms and business privately owned by son Krishna and his wife preetha both aged around 30.
Both Aged around 30 only !
Below is the list of businesses started with your money and for converting / legalising the money received by cheating millions of innocents in the name of enlightment by ammabhagavan oneness :
1.Media Business.
2.Entertainment Business.
3.Realestates,
4.MindBody Networks.
5.Constructions.
6.Agri Business.
7.Kosmic Group.
8.Kosmic Music
9.Kosmic Networks
10.Kosmic Life
11.Kosmis Film and Entertainment
12.Dream View Corporation
13.Kosmic Global Media
14.Private Offices in LA
15.Offices in Mumbai
16.Offices in Chennai
17.Offices in Singapore
18.Movie Production
19.Movie distribution
20.And above all he is also aVenture Capitilist
21.RISING SOLUTIONS
22.Many companies named as Golden
and the list goes on and on …………………….,
Your More MONEY and Your More SEVA is always welcome.
Welcome to the private business called Oneness!!
Hey what about ammabhagavan's son krishnas movie production which is the easy way to convert black money into white legal money . It is really disgusting to see such people in our society.
My God what will foriegners think about India.
Con artists son changes his name
From Krishna Nemam to N.K.V Krishna
Hey this around 30 year old con artist Krishna son of amma bhagavan is not a qualified person in the software field. He just swindles the money from oneness and invests in various private business of his.
Real Bastard.
This is from Tehelka – The People’s Paper
http://www.tehelka.com/story_main.asp?filename=ts032004LIC.asp&id=1
The report states that Anandagiriji, who was a student at the Jeevashram School where the ‘godman’ was earlier employed as the administrator, admitted in his fund flow statement (from 1998 to 2001) “that he had made gifts of Rs 2.53 crore” to Krishna and 'Preetha, Kalki’s son and daughter-in-law
The report goes on to say that of this sum, Preetha had invested Rs 1.38 crore in the acquisition of shares The report states that in a list that Krishna gave the Income Tax department, he has admitted that he, his wife and their companies and trusts owned as many as 33 vehicles Giri also stated in the report that he had received gifts worth Rs 5 crore and that they were mostly from abroad and “that he could not say exactly that they were for the movement”.
Just a few highlights from an article in India Today.
http://archives.digitaltoday.in/indiatoday/20041213/kalki.html
Kalki's son Krishna is accused of diverting money from the tax-exempted trusts to promote his businesses.
The setting was just right when the "holy" couple's only son Krishna took to an array of businesses. The cult floated several trusts in the name of spiritualism and rural development and collected crores of rupees.
Documents available with India Today show that the earnings of Kalki, his son Krishna and daughter-in-law K. Preetha have indeed gone up. Preetha, who first filed her income tax returns for the year 1993-94, had then shown an income of Rs 42,731. For the assessment year 2002-3, she has shown an income of Rs 66,000 as salary and another Rs 2,81,000 as agricultural income.
As on March 2003, Preetha owned a residential property in Chennai, 14 plots of agricultural land spread over 36 acres and an urban land of 4,815 sq ft. She also owned two lorries, 1,012 g of gold valued at Rs 4,31,112 and eight carats of diamond valued at Rs 96,000, besides 9 kg of silver worth Rs 70,875.
Krishna, who was first assessed for income tax in 1998-99, showed an income of Rs 95,108. When he filed his returns for the year 2002-3, his income had gone up to Rs 4,50,028. As on March 2002, Krishna owned three business ventures and was director of 11 companies, most of them named "Kosmic". He also owns three cars-a Mahindra Ford, a Honda Domani and a Tata Sumo-a lorry and a two-wheeler. His jewellery includes 836 g of gold valued at Rs 3,56,136, six carats of diamond valued at Rs 72,000 and silver articles worth Rs 47,250. He also owns three plots of agricultural land of more than 40 acres and a 4,815-sq ft land in Thiruvanmiyar, Chennai.
What the godman didn't say is that Sri Bhagavan Seva Trust comprises just two people-his son Krishna as the managing trustee and his wife Preetha as a trustee. Again, another Rs 22,15,232 was transferred to the same trust the next year. Here, Vijayakumar himself admits that "a sum of Rs 88,98,000 was gifted to my son N.K.V. Krishna.
Amma Bhagavan seems to be running this show for a long time for the benifit of his son krishna.
Bad Karma accumilated from millions of poor people !
I am a non beleiver of Kalki bhagwan. But I beleive in God, in Spiritual giants. If we consider them, sai baba lived with people hwlping them with his miracles. He even took diseases from them and he suffered for them.
Swami Vivekananda, on foot toured the whole of this country sleeping in palaces of maharajas ans huts of the poorest. Yet he didnt charge. When plague had striken kolkata, he started releif camps, but he has no money, he planned to sell the land acquired for the math(Rama krishna math) to help the people. But money came from other sources.
WHY PEOPLE NEED TO PAY MONEY FOR GETTING PEACE, ENLIGHTMENT AND SO ON ...
THIS IT SELF SHOWS THE SELFISHNESSS ABOUT THEIR NEED.
JUST STOP FIRST SPENDING MONEY FOR THESE NON SENCES AND LET THEM ENLIGHT AT THIER PEOPLE ALONE AND ENJOY.
i had personal experience.... This guy drugs people... The leghiom stuff mentioned above i tasted it first and had an enlightening experience... Then a few years later i tasted bhang its the same thing....
U can procure bhang in about 20rs and kalki gives it in 5000rs... A simple maths shows you can get enlightened 250 times.....forget enlightenment have bhang... cheers
people are negative by nature. one should really try out before commenting on it. I read most people saying that beleiving someones words most of the people are entering the cult. I feel what you are doing is also same. beleiving negative comments, you are distancing yourselves away from reacing a state of no suffering. I pity all the negative people here. Continue to stay in your own wolrd of intellect and logic which cannot comprehend something like spirituality and enlightenment.
I am following Shri Bhagawan since last 14 years and Only I know what difference he made to my life.
Dont just shoot your mouhts without experiencing. If they are only frauds as made out by you, they are intellingent ehough to earn money from any business.
Here is a great truth I have learned in this life:
Frauds work every bit as well as ishta devatas as those who are authentic.
I am happy that this debate has started. I am sure one day my belief in GOD will only increase. I believe in GOD. I accept every person as part of GOD. So I also accept Amma and Bhagvan as part of GOD as for now. To see "GOD " himself we will have to unite first with the same thinking...and I guess Bhagvan and Amma have rightly started of this process. I have not experienced any harm in believeing in them as GOD. But I do feel pain when people are writing things without experiencing him. I have experienced Bhagvan and Amma as ever since I have known of them my life has always seen positive light and I have seen some miracles happen in my life.Many of my desires got fulfilled. But yes my desires are not ending there...I expect more and more ....and all thise desires are also getting fulfilled by his grace. Today I would have been on the road without a job if it was not for that moment I had believed in Bhagvan. "The ALL is WELL" effect you see in three idiots movie ,the same you will surely see in believing in Amma and Bhagvan. At least you have some person to talk to in this world when doors of many people get closed. I supprort Amma and Bhagvan in their efforts. Many are getting jobs ! (I am not a savak or dasa/dasi , I am a PhD student. I still look to Amma and Bhagvan to give grace in my life had help me complete my PhD. The miracles that happened canot be discussed in open like this. I will ask all non belivers if you do not trust ,do not blame him unless you have experienced any harm from him. I have received only grace from him,thats it. I fully support the oneness movement.
ATTENTION EVERY ONE.........!!!!
First thing you have to realize is that GOD is working for us.
We do not need to work for god.
KALKI avathar is a No:1 FRAUD...!!!
there is no doubt.
But it is necessary to prove that, for getting others belief and support.
I AM TRYING FOR THAT....WILL GIVE THE SOLID EVIDENCE SOON.....!!!!
first of all we have to know ourself. and abt our mind clearly.
the whole power is in u.u can do anything. one who has no selfconfidance can depends others . others like god or like these kind of rougues.no kalkies no babas no swamijies ......
u r the one who can solve all ur problems with u r own mind.
i thought tony robbins was the head of the oneness movement? is this where he gets his money too...
No Tony Robbins was never the head of Oneness. He somehow got involve with this group and open the Oneness Fiji, which I am sure he will regret once scandal hits, which always happens with India's Gurus. I am not sure if Robbins Oneness campus is still part of Oneness, since Bhagavan & his son Krishna are no longer speaking & working together.
Whats happening to the peopele??
Why are they blindly behind him??
Watch TV 9 to know the answers of these questions right now??
Dont miss it...
He is a sure fraud
A criminal
If you believe in any god say jesus or prophet, then you have to believe kalki. personally I believe that people who believe in Jesus or Prophet or Kalki are morons. This is just business, past it was Jesus, prophet. Now is kalki and future may be somebody else.
Please Friends! STOP all you nonsense, comments without any personal experience.. I know dozens of people including me who are still growing in their life bcose of Amma Bhagavan. Please dont comment on anything you dont know..or dont have any experice.. By doing this you are creating a whole negative world around us.. God Bless you all.. Better we can stop this argument with this.. People know what to choose and what not to.. Thanks
I too have trust in Amma Bhagavan. They are living Avatars..anc cnahged my life many ways..
Btw, Negative people like u killed even Jesus..why not make a comment on Amma bhagavn.. God bless you.. also please SHUT ur bloody mouth and ASS..
Its not the mistake of that bastard... it is after all the people who fall behind such stupids. When idiots follows he will act as God or any thing else... why only in India so many people can cheat by acting as GOD... because we are fools and never ashamed of being fools. Political leaders also give shelter to these kind of so-called babas.
To me if some one is asking money to provide enlightment is not a GOD or even a GURU. More than what people say, look how they lived their life! How Shirdi Saibaba, Swami Viveknanda etc lived their life! Sucha simple life! Not very long ago like Buddha but a hundred odd years back. try to live like them..by this standard, AB has a long way to go!!
To the world community who believe this fraud oneness movement and it’s founder Kalki bhagavan Amma Bhagavan and their criminal minded son Krishna gee !
TV9 a local TV channel ran a program for three hours under ABNORMAL ACTIVITIES AT KALKI BHAGAVAN ASHRAM YESTERDAY – 1st March 2010 between local timing between 7pm and 10pm
Several videos consisting Vijayakumar the Kalki bhagavan also called as Amma Bhagavan showing their illegal activities. PLEASE NOTE – DRUGGING INNOCIENT DEVOTIEES IN THE NAME OF MUKTHI DEEKSHA given by the so called Bhagavan.
Please check the same by searching the web by typing TV9 kalki bhagavan exposed
This information is for the world community who follow this FRAUD CULT called Oneness Movement and their founders Kalki Bhagavan also known as Amma Bhagavan and their criminal minded son Krishna gee !
From Telugu TV channel Called TV9 Telugu ( March 01, 2010 )
Kalki Bhagavan Amma Bhagavan frauds exposed by Tv9 Telugu
March 01, 2010 – There’s a Live discussion show going on in Telugu news channel Tv9 in which Vijay Kumar Naidu alias Kalki Bhagavan and Amma Bhagawan are being targeted. He was born Vijay Kumar in Arcot district, Tamil Nadu, and at various times has also used names such as Mukteshwar, Sri Kalki Bhagavan, and Sri Bhagavan.
Bhagavan and Amma (not to confused with Mata Amritanandamayi) claim to be two divine beings, or Avatars. They reside at Golden City, near Chennai, in India. Their stated mission is to bring all of humanity into the Golden Age. They claim that they will fully enlighten 64,000 people in the world. These people in a highly enlightened state of communion would transform the rest of the humanity by 2012.
According to them, this state of enlightenment is offered to seekers through a process known as deeksha. Deeksha is a transfer of divine energy that is said to be so powerful it has the ability to break through the concepts and conditioning of our mind
According to Narayana who used to be a devotee of Amma Bhagavan, For the Darshan of Amma’s padam the devotees should pay 5000 Rupees and for Special Darshan 25,000 Rupees, They took 60,000 Rupees from each devotee for Homam. And for Foreigners they have 21 days package. And each devotee should pay entry fees. With the name of Amma Pooja the Kalki trust collected 240 Crores. Kalki trust is running 9 businesses, one of them is Real Estate which is running by Bhagvan’s son he earned nearly 3,000 crores with the company.
Source: Tv9 Telugu & Wiki
More Than Rs.3000 crores with Fraud Kalki Bhagavan's son - That is a lot of money !
What is the Indian Goverment doing? Taxing poor people!
This is a Golden oppurtunity for the Indian Government to give a boost to their economy by siezing all their properties and sending such bastards to Jail !
I love the person who posted on March 1 who claims to be enlightened by Oneness and then tells others to shut your bloody mouth and ass. This person should ask for all their money back!!! Ha!
At 3/01/2010 3:12 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...
I too have trust in Amma Bhagavan. They are living Avatars..anc cnahged my life many ways..
Btw, Negative people like u killed even Jesus..why not make a comment on Amma bhagavn.. God bless you.. also please SHUT ur bloody mouth and ASS..
This is on www.youtube.com
under
Tv9 - Abnormal activities in Kalki Bhagwan ashram
It is not in English. I wish someone would translate or post some of the highlights from this TV show exposing Bhagavan.
Kalki Bhagvan is an asshole. ... If u want the proof try googling Kalki Bhagvan fraud. He was caught recently.
Stop paying Kalki. Pay me. I am cyber sadhu. I promise nirvana at better rates. Book early for your nirvana trips to avoid depression. Just sponsor my bottle of Jack Daniels and I will give you endless discourses on life love and libido. :)
Some close Dasas of oneness cult say that the son named krishna born out of sex between the amma and her husband kalki bhagavan is the mastermind of this cult and that he has swindled a lot of money out of india also. They say this moron krishna will go to any extent for the sake of money.
Raising solutions employees say that he also produces movies and they say that he is spotted with female actress many times.
This man is enjoying his life !
This Is all shit.....How Would The White people Feel If I say Jesus Is Shit...and Christians Are Bullshit.....
thee person who posted this post must be a retard....
Hi, I am from AP and I watched all 6 parts of the exposure given by TV9. Some people wanted the meaning, so I am writing here
part-1:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jQ6QmiZoZh0&feature=related
This part is introduction showing various people behaving like drugged people. Vijay Kumar alias kalki attachted pupil of the school with his messages and they are not even ready to go their whoms. TV9 says it could be because they find peace at the school compared to their drunk father's violence at homes. There are 6 deciples who are considered the best of his team but many have already left the movement. Vijay kumar himself announced it in english that "anandagiri, vimalakirthi, samadarshini and overseas guides have broke with the moment without his permission and blessings.They have done this against his wishes". Some people in white cloths laid down like drunk or drugged and vijay kumar is laughing and enjoying their weird behavior. There is a claim that drugs are mixed in a lehyam (something you can lick or drink) as prasadam which is given to people at the time of darshan. And people are shown behaving weird and speaking like drunk.
part-2:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xkioGVPHzaY&feature=related
It was told that lot of his deciples (dasajis) have health issues because of repeated drug abuse on them. A list
is displayed in telugu which I am not that interested in. The weired laughs (as if mental patients) is shown and
the ashram claims that they are in another concious state. But the question TV-9 asks is whether the families of
those deciples accept that the weird behavior of their children is acceptible as normal or a divine state?
Then it explains about maha deeksha level -1 with 60000 members, level-2 with 5000 members and level-3 with 5000
members. In each level the member has to pay 5000 rupees. Also each member in level-1 is asked to get 60 new
members. For foreighners it is a 21 day course which covers all 3 levels. It is said that 25000 foreigners got it.
Youth course was designed for youth which recruited 57 lakh and 60 thousand people (57,60000) members. It was
accused that 1500kg of gold was collected for golden ball. Each homam needs 60,000 rupees and they are conducting
it for 8 lakhs with 10,000 members per year. Amma's pada darshan costs 5000. daily 250 members for 5 days a week
get this opportunity! ha ha.
It was accused that many have died in ashram because of the drug abuses. It is also accused that they ensure that
the thumbs are removed for the dead bodies so that their identity is not obtained.
There will be atleast 20 security gaurds. Monthly security cost is around 20 lakhs. Does he need this much
security. Why is he so scared?
Their son has businesses in India and Singapore. Vijay kumar is married, his son is married, But why the deciples
are not married? This is another question posed.
I will dub the remaining parts tomorrow as it is late and I have to go to bed.
I have seen the following post several times which raises a question. Is it the work of Amma Bhagavan Trust people or are there so many dumb idiots walking on this earth?
When do we expect coming of Bhagavan Kalki... an Avatar of present era... a messiah competent to uplift Dharma (righteousness)! In times of strife... when mutual trust amongst each other reaches its lowest ebb... coming of a messiah (Avatar) gets necessitated! Even man gods like Mahavira, Gautama Buddha, Jesus Christ or Prophet Mohammed fail in such circumstances!
and the next time you are not paying anybody who is not a medical doctor to solve your problems, you have got some real issues man!!! Religion rules and hence these godmen come in different forms and languages to scam us.
Overheard @ a very important meeting held at an undisclosed location b/w very important and famous new-age gurus, cult supported ashrams , religious leaders of all faiths , leaders of Major political parties across the Nation,and govt officials- The agenda was following the media exposure of Nityananda and Kalki's activities. The grouse was " How the govt can't rein in the media and bring in more censorship to news, when the ashrams and religious institutions were contributing so much as to bringing in the foreign exchequer to India." The best one was - How can the political parties keep quiet as some of your Money is also with us, moreover what do people expect, We SWAMIS are also a product of sex only, we did not appear on our own. And the political response was - "Do whatever you want, but dont get caught, the mediahouses have been informed, the news will die a natural death. Anyway you all know how media works, only news sensationals , who follows what happens two weeks from now. The result was immediate, one major South leader was shouting "Paid News, Paid News"
Sammy... people often confused me with "self declared Bhagavan Kalki... Vijay Kumar of Global Oneness Community"! Of all the things... how could one declare self as Bhagavan Kalki! Bhagwan Kalki would be one who inhibits powers similar to Lord Krishna! Ever since I realised God in 1993... I have been writing a lot about Bhagavan Kalki... the awaited messiah!
I receive a lot of queries daily that should have been addressed to Vijay Kumar of Global Oneness Community or Sri Amma Bhagavan of Oneness University! People do not realize their folly... nor do they want to! Such is the religious fervor in India that people blindly follow what they think is right!
Here are some of the List of Indian Television channels which ran a special program for more than three hours exposing the fraud, drugs , rape after administering drugs , false promises, money laundering , havala , murders at Kalki Bhagavan / amma bhagavan of Oneness :
TV9 Telugu, Mahaa TV, Maa TV, ETV, ABN News, ZEE Telugu, Makkal TV, Sun TV , etc.., and the list goes on.
The television channels also ran a program with people's view and comments after the expose.
Many said that these kind of Frauds should be dragged out in the streets and should be publically hit with old foot wear dipped in shit !
with great respect to all the devotees of amma bhagvan i have some doubts.
1. the very philosophy of DASA is wrong our spirituality wants us to make RAMASWARUPA AND NOT DASA.
2. according to physics two physical entities of same wave length cannot exist in this universe and they become one , this is the same philosophy of enlightenment and one who becomes enlightened becomes one with HIM
3. then how can be one male and one female god like amma and kalki.
4. if he talks of KUNDALINI he has to accept the principles of TANTRA and as we know the very basic rule of tantra is SHIVA SHAKTYATMAKAM BRAHMA that means shakthi is the operative faculty of shiva and not separate.
5. enlightenment cannot be purchased but strived with physico psycho spiritual methods.
6. the very philosophy of ammabhagvan granting enlightenment is wrong.
7. then miracles anybody can perform miracles if ones kundalini rises to some extent and it never means he is a guru and he can grant enlightenment.
8. there is no time bondage to get oneself enlightened and surely not without ones conscious efforts, philosophy, lifestyle and GURUS GRACE.
DASA at oneness means SLAVES screwed up , people those who have no other way to live, basically they sold their entire lives and their body to ammabhagavan for nothing - beliving this BASTARD as God and Godddess and also serve their son krishna. That is Dasa system !
Anyone in India, is there any updates on TV9 Bhagavan scandal?
Kalki Bhagavan and amma bhagavan caught- serving some liquor to devotees
by admin on Mar.23, 2010
Sun news channel has released a video yesterday, which featured kalki bhagavan and amma bhagavan. The main issue is that kalki and amma bhagavan are giving some liquid and fruits to their devotees, and they feel drowsy after consuming those prasadam. They showed a devotee, who was eating a mango given by the ashram felt drowsy and he slept. It is believed to be liquor, which makes male and female devotees drowsy. They even showed many male dancing nude after drinking the liquid. They showed assistant lady of bhagavan speaking in the crowd and after sometime the drinks are given to the devotees. One of the devotees is fully in a drowsy state when one voice chats with him in a room claiming it to be god’s voice. The voice of the god’s voice is same as the lady who spoke in the crowd. They even compared the pondicherry wine shop with the kalki ashram as in both the places the people feel drowsy and fell down after drinking the liquor. The ashram is located in kalahasti and many believe kalki bhagavan and amma bhagavan to be god. But this video released by sun TV is shocking as they serve some liquor to the devotees and the ladies scream and roll on the floor after consuming it.
Hello everbody,
I am not sure if some people are using others names to "air" their comments. One such name used to comment is of ms. Or mr. "Preeth"....
Please, please don't use others names to express your opinion.
The real "preeth" I know of and I am referring to has a very opposite opinion or rather different perspective on "Kallie n team". So pl. Respect that. If u don't want to b identified pl use "anonymous".
Thanks.
Now, this vijay kumar alias bhagavan is a liar and a fraud. Krishna is still part of this big game and are still looking for ways to make more money. The IT returns wil show a lot of money as "gifts" because there is noproof that there were money exchanges becase they made sure they accepted only "cash" in most cases or wire transfer to some Singapore est. Sick fellos.
Dear Friends!
Oneness is the only movement working to improve humanity to a great level of conciouness. If your felt depressed or wuit the journey in the middle. Please try one more time and watch the Webcasts from Bagavan. Still there is lot of oppertunity to grow spritualy, in carreer, relationship and all aspects of life!! dont loose patience and be frustrated. Its all the mind game. dont be a victim of your mind and negative critics.
AMMA BHAGAVAN Will Bless all of us!
I feel bad about the Negative comments came out of frustration and unhappiness. I Pray for all you felt bad and expressed negative comments!! God bless you all!!
Thanks
Venkat
USA
Bhagavan's loser son Krishna started a new movement called 'One World Acad'. It is failing, they get about 10 people at every big lecture/event. He is losing everything. Karma is a bitch!
At 12/12/2009 2:42 AM, Anonymous Usha Krishnan said...
I am Usha Krishnan. I have been with the Oneness Movement founded by Kalki Bhagavan.
This movement is after the public money. While I myself donated around 30 Lakhs (INR) to attend various courses and darshans with the hope that one day I would get enlightened.
But the truth is I have not moved an inch in my spiritual journey. I have been fooled by them to bring in more people so I can get qualified for higher classes. I did these things very sincerely.
But today, I have discovered that they are collecting lot of money in cash and not only that Bhagavan in his darshan to the Andhra devotees has called his own dasas as thieves and he has warned all his devotees to not give any money in cash to the dasas.
This really disillusioned me.
I have also seen that not a single person in the movement is enlightened.
I also saw and heard that Amma physically tortures many female dasas (monks) and many have left due to severe health problems. One of them even has lost 1 lungs of hers.
This is the state of affairs at Oneness Movement. I am writing this in anonymous with the hope that one day this movement will be closed and the founders jailed for large scale fraud.
I request all government agencies to conduct a raid in the premises again.
Thanks for reading this.
BEWARE OF THIS SHAM !!
Usha Krishnan
East Zone Coordinator
Chennai
Hi, I live in southamerica and kalki and his wife (they are called now sri amma bhagavan) begins to pick people in my country and others.
I participate in some of them. Fortune for me, I saw the reality first...but many people..specially youngers are inside...is very sad. Because is good people working to be better...
My problem, at first, was that I search for information, but I cant find anything in spanish, everything in web (or almost everything) is in english.
So, if somebody can explain his experience (direct expirence) in spanish will be good for us.
Thanks for this blog!
Mi mensaje en español:
Soy de sudamerica, participe en los cursos de onenness university en mi pais, las promesas que te hacen son muy bonitas, pero luego de un tiempo me di cuenta de que habia ambigüedad en lo que te enseñan. He estudiado mucho...y lo que te hablan es algo copiado. No es original. Es una suma de varias corrientes espirituales que buscan el trabajo interno.
He buscado durante unas semanas en internet y lo que pasa es que en sudamenrica o paises de habla hispana, no hay mucha informacion respecto al pasado de kalki o sri amma bhagavan...él se ha cambiado el nombre y por eso aqui no lo encontramos. Los que reclutan gente, te encantan con una energia que la llaman mukti deeksha, que en la teoria es muy hermosa, pero si observas bien, veras que es solo un señuelo.
No estoy muy segura de si en la iniciacion de los deeksha te dan algun tipo de droga, pero algo raro sucede, algo como sobrenatural....y la mente se queda con eso, luego relacionas la musica y los rituales que te piden realizar con ese estado. Si hay alguien que sienta que no esta en un lugar 100% seguro con este grupo del onenness, vale la pena investigar.
No caigas en el ego espiritual de que salvaras al mundo.
El ha sido denunciado en la india durante estos años.
Espero ayudar a los que esten en una situacion como la mia.
Sin animo de lastimar el corazon de nadie, por que sé que es doloroso cuando abusan de ti y aceptarlo es mas doloroso aun, te invito a investigar sobre sri amma bhagavan por el nombre de kalki bhagavan, sri bhagavan o Vijay Kumar como "fraude espiritual" o timo o secta.
Gracias por este blog.
This is totaly false statement without realising the truth.
When jesus chrisy try to help the people, he got lot of opposition and stone beating by conservatives.Finaly he was killed.After death of jesus world got awaked and accepted jesus is God.
The same way when Mohmed nabi tried to recover people from suffering, he faced so much threatening.He wasted 90% of his life by doing war with enemies.
So, now the turn is for Sri kalki bagwan.he is tring to recover people from all their sufferings.But human being never accepted any positive things quickly.But negotive things will spred like virus and will reach all very short period.
When Vallalar swamy and Ramakrishna paramas teaches people for piece, they got name as mental and idots.Also they got hitted by stones.
So, Golden age will say all the answer for who doesnot know power of God kalki.
In my personal life I experienced Bagwan's power and availed lot of miracles.
RSVMurthy
He is the biggest fraud.
I have relatives who are totally into it and wasting a lot of hard earned money. I hope that this obsession of theirs ends soon before they go bankrupt. They are almost in debt going to these homams at the rate of Rs 60,000 per homam. I am tired of telling them and explaining it to them. And not that my cousins are illiterates, they are well qualified. Why don’t people understand that this is a total fraud? Why does God need money? If he is a god and can cure illness then we do not need sophisticated hospitals and highly qualified doctors. I hope the governments take some kind of action before the innocent people loose their money. What is the IT department doing? Looks like the Kalki guy probably shells out a lot of money to the IT officials and the government to keep their mouths shut. He must be having millions of dollars in his swiss bank account too. Guys please tell me how do I save my relatives from this scam? I really want them to be the way they were before – which is minus this damn Kalki obsession. Please help!!!!! As the situation is kinda going beyond control.
During a private conversation with an insider who is very close to the oneness Kalki Bhagavan also called as Amma Bhagavan told me that they are immoral sexual pedators who are interested in fooling people. That person told me that their entire system is to fool and screw up an individual and suck his entire resources ! This system was devised by a group of close associates long time ago.
When people in India do not know about the mind screwing techniques used by CULTS.
Their entire base is built on lies and lies alone.
After the recent exposure of the illegal activites at Oneness Amma Bhagavan ( Kalki Bhagavan )ashram it seems thay have bribed corrupt politicians and they say that bhagavan and his son krishna gee fell at the feet of politicians crying and begged for their protection. What police and other authorities got from them were little money.
IT IS A KNOW FACT THAT ONENESS AMMA BHAGAVAN , KRISHNA ARE DRUGGING THEIR FOLLOWERS THIS WAS CONFIRMED BY A CLOSE FAMILY MEMBER AND ALSO BY THE TELEVISION CHANNELS.
AS CONFIRMED BY A CLOSE MEMBER -ONENESS kALKI BHAGAVAN AMMA bHAGAVAN AND SON KRISHNA AND THEIR FAMILY HAVE CONCEALED HUGE TONS OF MONEY AND PROPERTIES MOVABLE AND IMMOVABLE WHICH HAVE BEEN LOOTED FROM POOR PEOPLE OF INDIA AND BY FOOLING FORIERNERS.
THIS IS A GOLDEN CHANCE FOR THE POLITICAL PARTIES , TELEVISION CHANNELS , INVESTIGATIVE REPORTERS ,NEWSPAPERS, DASAS, FOLLOWERS INSIDERS,SERVANTS, POLICE AND GOVERMENT AUTHORITIES !! !
Poor Russians are being robbed of their money in the name of enlightment.
Some one should translate all the posst about the oneness illegal activities in Russian so that they will know the real truth about this fraud oneness movement and its owners amma bhagavan.
He is a swindler with never ending thirst for money..He is bhagawan and his wife is bhagavathi..what a joke!!
Though I feel proud of being an Indian, I sometimes feel ashamed to be born in this country where any asshole can claim himself as god..He had earned so much money that his son now manages a 3000 crore real estate business in chennai..
How can these scoundrels sustain despite severe opposition from several individuals and groups? It is very simple. India has got plentiful of illiterates and educated fools whose beliefs aren't based on any rationale. And there is severe corruption to make things worse.
Wake up Indians.. You people have already seen nityananda's other side..That day isn't very far when the true color of this kalki bhagawan is going to be revealed.. If you are really spiritual, be truthful, honest and helpful in your life..That is the best way to please god..
I am perfectly aware that even after studying too much and being associated with many religious organizations, I am ignorant of spiritual experiences. So, I cannot define how a God-man/Avatar should be. So I am neither a believer nor otherwise.
However, few things are very obvious to notice any sensible person (and I humbly ask the followers to think on these):
1. MONEY: If AmmaBhagavan is raising the consciousness of people by granting enlightenment, then why there is so much of fees? Is this not a way to discriminate between rich and poor?
(a) I never herd of Krishna ever asked Arjuna money for his Gita teachings; neither did Buddha, nor Jesus.
(b) Is there no other way to expand the movement and spread the teaching? Gandhi's call reached even the poorest people; he did not charge people any fixed price for India's freedom.
(c) Shouldn't the donations be voluntary? I attended a Vipassana Meditation camp in Bangalore. They provided 10 days of residence, food facilities. I was told that I can contribute WHATEVER I like IF AND ONLY IF I am benefited by the meditaion. Is this not a nice way, which is opens gate to ENLIGHTENMENT irrespective of ones bank balance? A villager, who just manages keep his family get going; even if he is spiritually inclined cannot afford to reach ENLITENMENT. What is Ammabhagavan's response to this problem?
2. DURATION: I feel suspicious, when 10 Yogas are taught in 10 days in the trainer's program!!! I doubt after the course is over whether the foreigners can even pronounce the names of those Yogas properly.
3. NO EFFORT: The Only caliber you need to get into the higher stages of enlightenment is your ability to pay the course fees!! You need not put any effort!!! I am not sure, but doesn’t this sound like perfect path for Lazy people? Is this equivalent to LSD? Many things about neuro-psychology have not been discovered yet. When LSD first came to be known, people associated it with Spiritual experience. Is there a tiniest possibility that those impersonal experiences are similar to LSD? How to verify? If it is impermanent and once it is gone, then if you desire bitterly to hold on to those experiences. ENLIGHTENMENT is all about not seeking any experience but knowing the experiencer.
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So, I would say there is no harm in attending their programs if the course fees do not matter to you. May be you become an ENLIGHTENED MASTER, who knows? However, my humble suggestion is do not close the doors of your mind, to controversies and oppositions. If this opposing view points causes pain in you, then know for sure, some where within you, you saw the validity of those opposing vie points.
People that work Bhagavan's son Krishna refer to 'Oneness' as 'Wrongness'. They all know it is a joke and that they are taking money from organization and buying homes, cars, etc for themselves.
name : Vikram
I have seen all the post and under gone the impression that Its really hard for human being to understand devine energy- the energy which help you to live your life with happiness rather with uncertinity and cronic sorrow. I am one of the strong devotee of Shri Bhagwan and atainded many courses of Oneness University, beleive me you will live very good life once you go through the various process conducted by Oneness especially youth must follow them you will rock in your life. he is just a human (more than that a complete incarnation of GOD) just like shri krishan, Ram Avatara. but this fulish people must have to understand this devine energy
I just lost a sister because of the teaching of this cult. She died suddenly because of her following this amma. My sister was convinced that she should ony drink very small amounts of water/liquid and as a result she died suddenly this past sunday. What can anyone tell me about this teaching of restricting liguids and what is the purpose of it?
kalki Bhagawan is heartless crook and so called amma is devils grand mother ,they will suck all your bloods! be careful.
first he told his schoolfriend dr. sankar that he is going to enlighten mankind in 1989. then he said that the world is not fit to receive his 'energy' then
he told that he would fulfill the material desires of his devotees from 1992 to 1998 and prophesied that his devotees would become # 1 rich people in the world.. he told within 8 yrs from 1996 he would wipe off poverty from India.. so many devotees got attracted towards him and started paying huge sum of money to his organization.. his teachings are nothing but combination of osho's and J krishnamurthi's teachings..then he told after 1998 the dharma or truth will accelerate in the world at a tremendous and mind boggling phase.. so, this way he kept the hopes of devotees alive from 1992
till 1998 ...and when 1998 came he told his devotees that in 2004 planet venus is going to transit thru earth and the earth will receive 'spritual' energy and many would get enlightened... people started pouring donations in huge amount to get enlightened..then 2004 came and went.. then he
even gave interview in tamil monthly magazine called ananda vigatan that if by 2006 60,000 should get awakened else the planet will perish and will become like planet mars.
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