When Will Amma Hear Their Cries?
File under: Amma All-Over-The-Planet and Ammachi's Goongate
A letter sent to the home office of Ammachi's org, written by the Green Avenue neighborhood residents who were viciously attacked by a 50-deep posse of possible RSS goons:
May 4, 2007So far, as far as we know, no answer has been given, at all!
The Personal Secretary to
Respected Mata Amritanandmayi
Mata Amritanandamayi Math
Amritapuri P.O.Kollam
Kerala
Dear Sir/Madam,
We would like to bring to your attention an ugly incident that occurred in your Delhi Ashram in which the local in-charge Amma Swamini Rasamrita and Sh. Gopal alongwith 40-50 goons had attacked the residents of Green Avenue and their staff with an intent to kill. On 20th April 2007, Green Avenue Residents Association filed an FIR with the local Police and a copy of the same is attached for your reference.
It may also be brought to your notice that while the Ashram inmates including the above mentioned had preplanned and executed this act of violence, the entire association has found extremely repulsive the fact that they have also lodged a completely false criminal complaint against the residents. This was least expected from an Ashram belonging to Maa Amritanandmayi who is revered and respected by all.
This atrocity on residents by the Ashram inmates in which the person in-charge has been directly involved and which has evoked zero response from your Headquarters is now in the knowledge of innumerable people. The entire episode is being brought to the notice of the masses in the right perspective through emails as well as by the print and electronic media. A peaceful Dharna had also been organized by the residents of Vasant Kunj on 29.4.2007 in which many concerned citizens of Delhi were invited to join and was attended by at least 500 people. A note explaining the episode was widely circulated and is attached along with a memorandum signed by hundreds of people.
As decided in the mass gathering a memorandum is being sent to you for appropriate action from your end. It may be reiterated once again that the concerned citizens of Delhi are very perturbed by not just the ugly incident but also by the repulsive lies and false complaint initiated by the Delhi Ashram. It can further be established through the copies of the recent emails that are being attached herewith.
We would also like to bring to your attention that whenever Maa visits Delhi, the residents go out of their way and offer every assistance such as living space for devotees, free drinks and parking space in their farms etc. We are all feeling very disillusioned that instead of reciprocating our sentiments, rules and requests, the Ashram has resorted to violence and breaking the law.
Once again we request you to take immediate corrective action and oblige.
Thanking you,
Yours truly,
For GREEN AVENUE RESIDENTS ASSOCIATION
We guess Amma only loves those children of hers who give her money and provide beat-down services.
posted by guruphiliac @ 6:04 PM
21 Comments:
You must be a very sick mind maligning Amma. I am sure if Jesus were to come today in this world, you guys will not leave him either! Somebody posts pictures of an injured man and claims this was done by followers of Ammachi. And lo! She is proved guilty.
It seems people here are pissed that she collects money in the US and spends in India. If only you saw whom she spends that money on. She spends that money on the poorest of the poor in India. Why don't you find out what she spends on herself? She wears just a white dhoti and eats only a handful of grains - that too once a day. And you are accusing her of hoarding the money! People like you killed Jesus and Gandhi. What else can be expected from you about Ammachi!
...viciously attacked by a 50-deep posse of RSS goons
You did find a source reporting RSS involvement in this episode?
Devotees are absolutely beside themselves with denial and anger that this issue has been brought up at all. They are furious that anyone would dare tell the truth about their perfect Master. (Isn't it Mistress?)
Guruphiliac, please keep it up until they come after you with lathis. In the states we have a legal system that doesn't look favorably on cults ;)
You must be a very sick mind maligning Amma.
Me and the Indian version of Vanity Fair, which is called Society. Read this, from their latest issue.
People like you killed Jesus and Gandhi.
Actually, Amma's buddies the RSS killed Gandhi. Did you know that Amma's organization does not approve of him anyway?
You did find a source reporting RSS involvement in this episode?
No Jim. That's my speculation.
Believe or not, I appreciate you keeping me honest. I've made a change to the text to reflect where I am speculating.
A few comments to anonymous.
Anonymous wrote:
People like you killed Jesus and Ghandi.
Actually no, the RSS killed Ghandi.
She wears just a white dhoti.
She wears a white sari and she wears a new one every day. She also wears a new Devi Bhava sari all the time and they go up for sale as soon as she takes them off her body.
Believe or not, I appreciate you keeping me honest. I've made a change to the text to reflect where I am speculating.
Hey, thanks. Now if I could only keep myself honest I'd be all set. ;-) Till then, I'll have to keep mine ears open... Although my bias regarding Ammachi appears to be a lot more positive than yours, I don't dismiss unflattering stuff out of hand.
OTOH, I don't regard these reports as being necessarily reliable in every respect, either. Some of the Amma-critical stuff I've seen coming from India (e.g. the Sreeni Pattathanam stuff about "mysterious deaths") strikes me as being very similar to the Clinton Body Count rumors. Whether that's the case here, I don't know, but I wouldn't rule out the possibility.
I don't regard these reports as being necessarily reliable in every respect
Jim, it's in the Indian Vanity Fair. That's no guarantee of absolute reliability, but it sure isn't just some angry blogger's bluster.
I'm in contact with one of the Green Ave. residents. This person hasn't said anything critical about Ammachi except about the fact that her org is in complete denial and that nothing at all has been done by Amma or the police.
How credible is this story? This looks like a blown up story.
anonymous said...It seems people here are pissed that she collects money in the US and spends in India...
As far as I remember not much has been said about that, good buddy, although I for one think it's just about time for the wealthy and middle class in India to start pulling their own weight in this regard. I can fully understand why poor Hindus would convert to Islam, Buddhism or even Christianity. In the US we only meet the wealthy Indians but as a generality I have never met a more materialistic group, per se.
If I were a very poor man in India I would heed the call of Amma's swami and turn away from any idea of non violence. I'd start going after the wealthiest Indian families I could find. I think they call themselves "royal families", ie mafia with crowns, those that conspired with the English for generations, growing fat while India as a whole went hungry. Off with their heads!
Jody said:
Actually, Amma's buddies the RSS killed Gandhi.
Time to brush up your history lessons. Gandhi's killer Godse was expelled from RSS much before the assassination. RSS was no way responsible for Gandhi's killing. Then RSS chief, Golwalkar had condemned the incident in most unequivocal terms.
RSS is a humanitarian organization. They are struggling to bring out the best of hindu dharma by helping the needy and the poor. They do not indulge in killing.
They are struggling to bring out the best of hindu dharma by helping the needy and the poor.
Sure they are, with jackboots on.
Anonymous said... Time to brush up your history lessons. Gandhi's killer Godse was expelled from RSS much before the assassination...
...Real smart of them to expell the guy long before th assination and then condemn the act. Kind of like Kennedy and the Bay of Pigs. The CIA and rich Texas oilmen also publically condemned Kennedy's assination with loud jackass voices!
Jim, it's in the Indian Vanity Fair. That's no guarantee of absolute reliability, but it sure isn't just some angry blogger's bluster.
Sure. I wouldn't give this any more or less credibility than I would any such media report.
I'm in contact with one of the Green Ave. residents.
I'm don't doubt that you're in contact with someone in India, but I'd question whether you're in a position to verify the reliability of your source.
Anon said:
Time to brush up your history lessons. Gandhi's killer Godse was expelled from RSS much before the assassination. RSS was no way responsible for Gandhi's killing. Then RSS chief, Golwalkar had condemned the incident in most unequivocal terms.
Correction 1: Godse was not "expelled" from RSS. He left RSS because he thought RSS was being too moderate lately. He left RSS to join a still more supermascist party "Hindu Mahasabha". That does not mean that his ideology was not shaped by RSS. Today Hindu Mahasabha is extinct and RSS is their heir.
Correction 2: Then RSS chief did not comment anything about Gandhi's murder for at least a week. When pressed by reporters, he reportedly termed it as "unfortunate". Call it "unequivocal condemnation" if you wish.
As regard to RSS' humanitarian projects, do not forget that even Nazi party ran several humanitarian agencies including one that looked after the interests of dislocated Jews.
Ok, I am really, really really confused and concerned over why the ashram is all of a sudden heavily embroiled in training military forces. I pointed this out before, but it is getting such that the entire ashram blog is now about the ashrams involvement with the military.
Don't take my word for it:
http://www.ashramdiary.blogspot.com/
Observations? Thoughts?
What is this all about and why does no one find it strange???????
anonymouth said...eats only a handful of grains - that too once a day.
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Pardon me for sayin this but the gal could not have gotten so stout and maintained this bulk on a handful of gtains a day! I know because I'm workin on triple wide status myself. This takes effort to build and maintain!
Jim Butler said he doubted this attack could be proved by the press coverage but I imagine it would be easier to prove this attack than say prove that Ammachi is God or that she changed water into pudding.
We all know the kind of fanatics that hang around figures with absolute authority, like I do around my own Momma. If Momma asks me to feed her little dog, I say how high?! I do know people who are devotees of hers who are afraid to be seen with another satsang group. That's a cult, good buddy. All the power has gone to someone's head!
anonymous wrote above:
"Ok, I am really, really really confused and concerned over why the ashram is all of a sudden heavily embroiled in training military forces. I pointed this out before, but it is getting such that the entire ashram blog is now about the ashrams involvement with the military."
That's all your own projection about ashram military involvement.
Training the military in meditation?
There is past historical precedent for Hindu gurus blessing the military. Neem Karoli Baba used to do this when they would somehow find and drive past him and the soldiers would stop to get darshan and be blessed with small pictures of Hanuman as protection to carry with them into battle during the war with China. This is in Miracle of Love by Ram Dass. Nothing new here at all.
What would you do if you were a guru and had to respond to men who were going to fight and possibly be killed? It isn't easy living life in an army or any military office.
Pacifism is not the reality here.
also meant to say:
Pacifism is not the reality here...
Although faith in the guru seems to be the reality of the story I mentioned.
Chuck wrote:
Jim Butler said he doubted this attack could be proved by the press coverage but I imagine it would be easier to prove this attack than say prove that Ammachi is God or that she changed water into pudding.
Sure, but that's a false equivalence. It's more likely that I'm going to win the Lotto tomorrow than that I'm going to walk on water. That doesn't mean it's time to start spending.
Jim Butler said...Sure, but that's a false equivalence. It's more likely that I'm going to win the Lotto tomorrow...
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Jim, you're talkin to a guy who lives in a double wide and spends most of his time with a mule, so please save on breath by not using big words with me.
By the way, the Good Lord--communicating to me by way of my mule---has told me I have a good chance of winning the lotto today, so I'm sayin why waste your dollar. When I win, Jody gets that high mountain extreme skiing trip he mentioned a while back. I guarantee it!!!
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